Trump Virus

[Slavister]

Yes, I've lowered myself to Trump level on this one - this is now the "Trump Virus" as far as I am concerned.

#trumpvirus

It may have originated in China, but in this country, it mutated to be the Trump virus.

His administration failed on
- promoting (even if not enforcing - Trump claimed he could do it but decided against it) national lockdown,
- his administration is responsible for terrible messaging resulting in too many followers to downplay and spread this,
- his failure on testing is terrible,
- his failure on PPE is horrendous.
- he pitted States against one another (and against Feds) for supplies.

Apparently his administration did this not only due to incompetence but on purpose, maliciously, thinking that "Blue States" would be affected more than the Red ones.

We are the only major country with a large second wave.

Results: we are in the top 10 countries on number of cases per capita and number of deaths per capita. Among larger countries, we are in the top 3-4.

And what about those other hard hit countries like UK, Italy, Spain, France?

- NONE have 2 waves
- They have had it under much better control than us for months now
- They got hit hard earlier and had less time to prepare
- They have much higher population density
- They use public transport much more
- They have higher percentage of older population

In short, we had it MUCH EASIER and should have been MUCH BETTER than they in the first place.

Sure, Sweden and UK went the wrong way and have paid a high price as well but even they don't have a second wave now.

It does not matter what Governors do when 30%-40% of population in their states think it's just another flu

Trump Virus it is

 

[trixare4kids]

Yes, I've lowered myself to Trump level on this one - this is now the "Trump Virus" as far as I am concerned.

#trumpvirus

It may have originated in China, but in this country, it mutated to be the Trump virus.

His administration failed on
- promoting (even if not enforcing - Trump claimed he could do it but decided against it) national lockdown,
- his administration is responsible for terrible messaging resulting in too many followers to downplay and spread this,
- his failure on testing is terrible,
- his failure on PPE is horrendous.
- he pitted States against one another (and against Feds) for supplies.

Apparently his administration did this not only due to incompetence but on purpose, maliciously, thinking that "Blue States" would be affected more than the Red ones.

We are the only major country with a large second wave.

Results: we are in the top 10 countries on number of cases per capita and number of deaths per capita. Among larger countries, we are in the top 3-4.

And what about those other hard hit countries like UK, Italy, Spain, France?

- NONE have 2 waves
- They have had it under much better control than us for months now
- They got hit hard earlier and had less time to prepare
- They have much higher population density
- They use public transport much more
- They have higher percentage of older population

In short, we had it MUCH EASIER and should have been MUCH BETTER than they in the first place.

Sure, Sweden and UK went the wrong way and have paid a high price as well but even they don't have a second wave now.

It does not matter what Governors do when 30%-40% of population in their states think it's just another flu

Trump Virus it is

Sounds more like TDS bellyaching to me.

 

[Slavister]

Sounds more like TDS bellyaching to me.

Of course it does.

TDS = you got no arguments to argue against the criticism, so you complain that the criticism exists in the first place.

 

[ElChupacabra]

The whole "China virus" nonsense is stupid. To keep whinging about where the virus started in no way deflects from the actions of other nations to help prevent the spread. At this stage of the disease, we're the main hot spot and as a result are on a variety of travel restriction lists. That Trump hasn't realized this is a losing battle is odd, but not surprising.

 

[apdst]

Because Trump caused the pandemic. :lamo

 

[Mycroft]

Yes, I've lowered myself to Trump level on this one - this is now the "Trump Virus" as far as I am concerned.

#trumpvirus

It may have originated in China, but in this country, it mutated to be the Trump virus.

His administration failed on
- promoting (even if not enforcing - Trump claimed he could do it but decided against it) national lockdown,
- his administration is responsible for terrible messaging resulting in too many followers to downplay and spread this,
- his failure on testing is terrible,
- his failure on PPE is horrendous.
- he pitted States against one another (and against Feds) for supplies.

Apparently his administration did this not only due to incompetence but on purpose, maliciously, thinking that "Blue States" would be affected more than the Red ones.

We are the only major country with a large second wave.

Results: we are in the top 10 countries on number of cases per capita and number of deaths per capita. Among larger countries, we are in the top 3-4.

And what about those other hard hit countries like UK, Italy, Spain, France?

- NONE have 2 waves
- They have had it under much better control than us for months now
- They got hit hard earlier and had less time to prepare
- They have much higher population density
- They use public transport much more
- They have higher percentage of older population

In short, we had it MUCH EASIER and should have been MUCH BETTER than they in the first place.

Sure, Sweden and UK went the wrong way and have paid a high price as well but even they don't have a second wave now.

It does not matter what Governors do when 30%-40% of population in their states think it's just another flu

Trump Virus it is

yawn...

Keep repeating your nonsense. It makes it easier for you to actually believe your nonsense.

The rest of us will stick to the reality of the Wuhan Virus.

 

[Phys251]

Sounds more like TDS bellyaching to me.

#5.

 

[Torus34]

Because Trump caused the pandemic. :lamo

Hi!

The quoted statement is, of course, nonsense. The pandemic is caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

What is at question are such things as:

Given the comparison between the daily deaths per 100,000 people from the Covid virus in the US and Germany, how can the difference -- one of many multiples -- be explained? What was done [Ed.: or not done,] in Germany that wasn't done in the US? These are legitimate questions, with a direct bearing on how well the US will handle the next pandemic.

Regards, stay safe 'n well. Remember the Big 3: masks, hand washing and physical distancing.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Our president's response to a global pandemic could not have been any worse.

Donald Trump is not a leader.

 

[Slavister]

Because Trump caused the pandemic. :lamo

You think so? I don't believe in conspiracy theories.

 

[ReubenSherr]

What's disturbing about the phrase "Trump virus" is that it was coined by Pelosi, in response to the phrase "Chinese Virus."

You all do understand the implication of this?

Pelosi was SO offended by the phrase "Chinese virus" that she went on the offensive against Trump, in order to deflect attention from the Chinese.

This is extremely disturbing.

What is the connection between Pelosi and China that made her this defensive?

 

[Slavister]

What's disturbing about the phrase "Trump virus" is that it was coined by Pelosi

Hmm... Interesting... I did not realize this had happened. I thought I coined it but guess not :-(

Pelosi was SO offended by the phrase "Chinese virus" that ... What is the connection between Pelosi and China that made her this defensive?

I googled to see why she chose the term and unsurprisingly it's for the same reasons I did in the OP. So, no, your speculation is baseless.

Then again, if we follow your logic, I must also have a connection to China! I never knew! :lamo

 

[ReubenSherr]

Hmm... Interesting... I did not realize this had happened. I thought I coined it but guess not :-(



I googled to see why she chose the term and unsurprisingly it's for the same reasons I did in the OP. So, no, your speculation is baseless.

Then again, if we follow your logic, I must also have a connection to China! I never knew! :lamo

How do you feel about the term "Chinese Virus" and why?

Lol that's funny that you came up with it independently of Pelosi.

 

[Slavister]

How do you feel about the term "Chinese Virus" and why?

Lol that's funny that you came up with it independently of Pelosi.

I am for the most part indifferent to the term "Chinese Virus". I understand it's another 2nd grade attempt by Trump to highlight / shift the blame, or at least to move the spotlight to someone else away from his responsibilities, but I never really dug into that controversy as it's kinda boring. Still, as long as we are assigning blame, at this point Trump deserves most of it in this country; so "Trump Virus" certainly makes a lot of sense.

 

[ReubenSherr]

I am for the most part indifferent to the term "Chinese Virus". I understand it's another 2nd grade attempt by Trump to highlight / shift the blame, or at least to move the spotlight to someone else away from his responsibilities, but I never really dug into that controversy as it's kinda boring. Still, as long as we are assigning blame, at this point Trump deserves most of it in this country; so "Trump Virus" certainly makes a lot of sense.

I do not understand for the life of me how anyone could not blame China for this. Wuhan Lab, wet markets, it doesn't matter. China was negligent. And they should have quarantined Wuhan and cut all air travel.

And, again, why was the phrase "Chinese Virus" so offensive to Pelosi? Is she somehow connected with the Chinese, why is she so defensive of them?

 

[Slavister]

I do not understand for the life of me how anyone could not blame China for this. Wuhan Lab, wet markets, it doesn't matter. China was negligent. And they should have quarantined Wuhan and cut all air travel.

Truth is EVERYONE blames China for downplaying it and not taking aggressive enough measures.

In fact, it's the very same reasons we blame Trump.

One difference is China turned around within a month or two and REALLY shut this thing down. Trump is still downplaying and spreading nonsense after 7 months.

Trump is worse however. He also incapable AND according to latest reporting his lack of national testing strategy was malicious because he wanted to literally hurt blue states.

China did not have its provinces fight each other for supplies and testing kits, and actually had a national approach that has allowed them to open up the country months ago.

That's why it is Trump Virus now.

 

[Phys251]

I do not understand for the life of me how anyone could not blame China for this. Wuhan Lab, wet markets, it doesn't matter. China was negligent. And they should have quarantined Wuhan and cut all air travel.

And, again, why was the phrase "Chinese Virus" so offensive to Pelosi? Is she somehow connected with the Chinese, why is she so defensive of them?

It's like we learned in kindergarten: Just because Johnny did something bad doesn't mean we also get to. Or did you fail to learn that simple lesson?

 

[Slavister]

Keep repeating your nonsense. It makes it easier for you to actually believe your nonsense.

Hello... I am over here... Stop talking in the mirror.

The rest of us will stick to the reality of the Wuhan Virus.

Ahh yes... the alternative facts

 

[ReubenSherr]

It's like we learned in kindergarten: Just because Johnny did something bad doesn't mean we also get to. Or did you fail to learn that simple lesson?

Huh???

I think you’re missing my point.

China is responsible, NOT Trump

Andrew Cuomo failed to follow San Francisco’s example, and waited too long before shutting down NYC.

You all can’t complain about Trump stepping on governors’ toes when it comes to public safety, but then claim that Trump should have stepped on Cuomo’s toes when it came to shutting down his state.

Even more importantly, where is your evidence that Biden would have closed down the country sooner? Without Fauci having prompted him to do so?

 

[ReubenSherr]

Trump is worse however. He also incapable AND according to latest reporting his lack of national testing strategy was malicious because he wanted to literally hurt blue states.

Lol what?

I can’t believe liberal posters accuse me of spinning conspiracy theories

Who reported this? CNN? The Guardian?

 

[d0gbreath]

Because Trump caused the pandemic. :lamo

Why is "pan" in bold, and not the whole word?

 

[Phys251]

Huh???

I think you’re missing my point.

China is responsible, NOT Trump

Andrew Cuomo failed to follow San Francisco’s example, and waited too long before shutting down NYC.

You all can’t complain about Trump stepping on governors’ toes when it comes to public safety, but then claim that Trump should have stepped on Cuomo’s toes when it came to shutting down his state.

Even more importantly, where is your evidence that Biden would have closed down the country sooner? Without Fauci having prompted him to do so?

In other words, yes, you did fail to learn the simple lesson that two wrongs don't make a right.

45 didn't cause the virus, and he's not the reason it came here, but he is the reason that 120,000 130,000 140,000 150,000 160,000 Americans are dead. Not China. Remember when your president said that there were 15 cases and they would just disappear?

 

[ReubenSherr]

In other words, yes, you did fail to learn the simple lesson that two wrongs don't make a right.

Dude, there isn't only ONE cause to a situation.

Life is complicated. Many people could have done things differently.

How could you possibly not blame China? It doesn't matter if the virus was mishandled by a lab attendant, or it came from a wet market, negligence on the part of China created this virus. And once the Chinese government knew it was an issue, they did not quarantine Wuhan, letting it spread all over the world.

What's most disturbing about all this is that Pelosi is so defensive of China, she reacts to the phrase "Chinese Virus" with the phrase "Trump Virus", almost like attacking the Chinese government is attacking her.

 

[Fletch]

Of course it does.

TDS = you got no arguments to argue against the criticism, so you complain that the criticism exists in the first place.

No, you dont have an argument. You posted stupid, hackish nonsense and it got the response it deserved.

 

[Phys251]

Dude, there isn't only ONE cause to a situation.

Life is complicated. Many people could have done things differently.

I appreciate your efforts to try to laysplain to me basic cause and effect. At this rate you might try to teach me something I didn't learn until I was in high school. :lol:

How could you possibly not blame China? It doesn't matter if the virus was mishandled by a lab attendant, or it came from a wet market, negligence on the part of China created this virus. And once the Chinese government knew it was an issue, they did not quarantine Wuhan, letting it spread all over the world.

What you choose not to understand is that even if the Chinese government were responsible for the initial outbreak, it is each nation's responsibility to deal with the virus once it reached their shores. Obama and Biden had created a game plan for pandemic management, but 45 threw it out. He was more obsessed with his poll numbers than he was concerned about Americans' health.

Our failed response to COVID-19 falls squarely on 45's shoulders, no matter how loudly you stamp your feet and insist otherwise. :shrug: