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Trump used Pentagon budget for personal gain, Amazon alleges

Anthony60 said:
Didn't A-oc rail on Amazon so bad that she cost her constituents thousands of high paying jobs and billions in tax revenue? But that didn't manage to get your concern on this issue?
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I don’t pay much attention to AOC—except to denigrate her. She’s a socialist. Probably a communist wannabe. Neither of those options promotes freedom.
 
American said:
So Maui, when can we expect your Trump apology letter? Dude you don't know **** about government acquisition. You should stick to what you know.
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Other than denigrating me, do you have an argument? Or are you just angry?
 
Felis Leo said:
Unless the Pentagon did this at Donald Trump's direct behest, I do not see how this could possibly be considered an abuse of power, because what "power" did Donald Trump improperly exercise?
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From the article:

"The filing cites direct intervention from Trump in early August. Amazon alleged that, at the time, Trump directed new defense secretary Mark T. Esper “to conduct an ‘independent’ examination” of the cloud contract award, citing several news articles."
 
Felis Leo said:
Unless the Pentagon did this at Donald Trump's direct behest, I do not see how this could possibly be considered an abuse of power, because what "power" did Donald Trump improperly exercise?
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even if he did, the commander in chief cannot direct the pentagon where to buy office chairs?

holy crap , no wonder a screwdriver costs $500
 
Napoleon said:
I think the only words that matter are “lesser bid.” If Microsoft said they’d do it cheaper then why is this an issue at all?
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It is national security. There are many factors besides price.
 
MauiMan said:
It is national security. There are many factors besides price.
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It’s cloud computing. Is anyone seriously going to make a case that Microsoft is somehow less qualified than Amazon on the merits?
 
MauiMan said:
Do you really want a President doing these kinds of things? I think it’s important for the judicial to weigh in on the matter.
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None of you minded when other presidents did it and when the next Democrat president gets elected, you won't care, again.
 
Napoleon said:
It’s cloud computing. Is anyone seriously going to make a case that Microsoft is somehow less qualified than Amazon on the merits?
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Well, hells bells! Why didn’t I think of that? I could set up one, and surely put in a lower bid than any of them. It’s simple stuff, right?
 
apdst said:
None of you minded when other presidents did it and when the next Democrat president gets elected, you won't care, again.
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It has nothing to do with Democrat/Republican! It’s the United States Constitution! Rule of law! Come on.

Look. If you really were in the 1st Cav—and I’m not saying you weren’t—you must understand the importance of an oath to protect and defend the Constitution. FYI, I’ve sworn the same oath, so don’t tell me I don’t care!

The President must obey the law and serve all Americans, not just the ones he thinks voted for him while wiping his fanny with our most hallowed document.
 
MauiMan said:
Well, hells bells! Why didn’t I think of that? I could set up one, and surely put in a lower bid than any of them. It’s simple stuff, right?
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Well, golly gee willikers! Maybe you, like Amazon, could source your servers from China and then you too can complain that you weren’t awarded a government contract for data storage.
 
Napoleon said:
Well, golly gee willikers! Maybe you, like Amazon, could source your servers from China and then you too can complain that you weren’t awarded a government contract for data storage.
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Back on point:

"Trump used Pentagon budget for personal gain, Amazon alleges"

Emphasis is mine in the following quote from the article:

"President Trump’s “repeated public and behind-the-scenes attacks” against Amazon led the Pentagon to choose a lesser bid from Microsoft for a massive cloud computing contract that officials have labeled a crucial national security priority, Amazon alleged in a complaint made public Monday.

"The e-commerce giant’s protest of the $10 billion, 10-year contract alleges that Trump’s stated efforts to “screw Amazon” led the agency to opt for a proposal from Microsoft with “clear failures.” Amazon pointed to alleged errors and an 11th-hour policy change as evidence that the Defense Department failed to follow the rules. And it said Trump’s alleged meddling with defense spending for personal gain threatens the integrity of the government procurement system itself."

Once again, Trump May have abused his position as President for a personal reason, and not in the national interest.

That is an impeachable offense. He keeps doing it—he continues to put his personal interest above the national interest.
 
MauiMan said:
It has nothing to do with Democrat/Republican! It’s the United States Constitution! Rule of law! Come on.

Look. If you really were in the 1st Cav—and I’m not saying you weren’t—you must understand the importance of an oath to protect and defend the Constitution. FYI, I’ve sworn the same oath, so don’t tell me I don’t care!

The President must obey the law and serve all Americans, not just the ones he thinks voted for him while wiping his fanny with our most hallowed document.
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That's bull**** and you know it. Trump has only hasn't violated The Constitution once. None of the **** the Democrats are trying to finger Trump on is either illegal, or unconstitutional.
 
Common Sense 1 said:
An extremely weak response. But I don't need to
make note of that because it is very obvious! :doh :peace
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Herp derp trump wins derp.

That is off topic cult speak. And you got called out on it. Now you're wallowing. Hilarious.
 
MauiMan said:
Back on point:

"Trump used Pentagon budget for personal gain, Amazon alleges"

Emphasis is mine in the following quote from the article:

"President Trump’s “repeated public and behind-the-scenes attacks” against Amazon led the Pentagon to choose a lesser bid from Microsoft for a massive cloud computing contract that officials have labeled a crucial national security priority, Amazon alleged in a complaint made public Monday.

"The e-commerce giant’s protest of the $10 billion, 10-year contract alleges that Trump’s stated efforts to “screw Amazon” led the agency to opt for a proposal from Microsoft with “clear failures.” Amazon pointed to alleged errors and an 11th-hour policy change as evidence that the Defense Department failed to follow the rules. And it said Trump’s alleged meddling with defense spending for personal gain threatens the integrity of the government procurement system itself."

Once again, Trump May have abused his position as President for a personal reason, and not in the national interest.

That is an impeachable offense. He keeps doing it—he continues to put his personal interest above the national interest.
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Yes, let’s get back to the facts. Amazon and Microsoft were the only eligible parties. Microsoft was the lowest bidder so it won the contract. There is nothing more to it than that.
 
apdst said:
That's bull**** and you know it. Trump has only hasn't violated The Constitution once. None of the **** the Democrats are trying to finger Trump on is either illegal, or unconstitutional.
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So, you think it’s ok for a President to do whatever he wants, and ignore constitutional duty?
 
Napoleon said:
Yes, let’s get back to the facts. Amazon and Microsoft were the only eligible parties. Microsoft was the lowest bidder so it won the contract. There is nothing more to it than that.
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Provide your source of information.
 
MauiMan said:
Provide your source of information.
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Amazon’s own complaint for starters. It is a verbose petty complaint that culminates in the assertion that, if only the criteria were different, JEDI should have been a no bid contract that only Amazon would qualify for. So perhaps Oracle and IBM were onto something when they prompted the IG to look into potential DOD sourcing shenanigans to funnel no bid contracts to Amazon.
 
MauiMan said:
So, you think it’s ok for a President to do whatever he wants, and ignore constitutional duty?
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How is Trump ignoring The Constitution, much less daily? Give us some examples, supported by the text from The Constitution.
 
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