Trump to widow of Sgt. La David Johnson: 'He knew what he signed up for'

[Absentglare]

Re: https://www.local10.com/news/politics/trump-speaks-to-widow-of-sgt-la-david-johnson

I dunno. I can think of a few times people told me (not here, that I can recall) my dead friends had-it-coming / deserved-it / should-have-known-what-happens-when-you-sign-up-for-a-fascist-war-of-aggression, etc. That strikes me as somewhat more insensitive than "he knew what he signed up for".

Nor is the sentiment insensitive. On the contrary, it's the very sentiment we reach for when we want to honor the fallen and the veteran alike - that they chose to take risks for others, and that that decision is to their credit.

Instead it seems to have been the delivery; though I also believe that its awkwardness would be gleefully hyped up by the lady with the cowboy hat who has had herself on television all day long.

Something tells me that he would not have signed up for military service if he had known he would be killed.

 

[Linc]

Re: https://www.local10.com/news/politics/trump-speaks-to-widow-of-sgt-la-david-johnson

Is this any surprise?

Folks we already know Trump has no empathy for others. He's a sociopath. Only cares about himself. And typically people in his income bracket wouldn't dream of serving in the military, and he's already showed that with his deferments for frivolous reasons. People like that look down upon people that serve. You won't find any of their family members serving either. It's for the "lower class."

And don't forget his treatment of the gold star family during the campaign and is stupid comments about McCain being a loser because he was a POW.

Add to that he's slipping mentally although I don't think he ever was anywhere near as sharp as he thinks he is.

The man is literally a legend in his own mind.

Yes! Add to that a nuclear trump and a GOP in a very real election Civil War.

We're easily in as big of a Crisis as we were during the Cuban Missile Crisis, which was of course followed by Vietnam ...

 

[Absentglare]

Re: https://www.local10.com/news/politics/trump-speaks-to-widow-of-sgt-la-david-johnson

It5 actually pales in comparison the crooked Hillary's: "What difference does it make?" rant in regards to the four Americans including an ambassador who were killed in Benghazi.

No it doesn't. She didn't say that to grieving widows, but your eagerness to trample on those dead bodies for political points undoes all the faux indignation you're trying to leverage here.

 

[cpwill]

Re: https://www.local10.com/news/politics/trump-speaks-to-widow-of-sgt-la-david-johnson

I seriously doubt anyone wants or needs to hear in the moment of grief beside a coffin that their loved one knew what they got into, or they asked for it, or they caused their own death, etc.

Saying someone knew the risks and chose to serve anyway is not at all saying they caused their own death. It's saying they are brave, and they are worthy of honoring for that decision.

This should be a time to bring comfort to the person grieving

One of the ways we in the military do that is by respecting them for the choices they made.

That in my opinion is the main reason the media jumps on these kinds of stories. Yes, I believe there is a dislike openly displayed towards our president whether deserved or not, so when he does things like this that demostrate his social ineptness when dealing with sensitive issues or situations he stokes the fires.

Like when Obama went from the announcement to go golfing?



I challenge anyone without searching to name the other three killed. That we can't do that suggests that, for some reason, this is a major news story only in so much as it allows us to bash the President, just as FOX and talk radio made big deals out of things that allowed them to bash Obama.

 

[Linc]

Re: https://www.local10.com/news/politics/trump-speaks-to-widow-of-sgt-la-david-johnson

Ah; so now you attack the widow, the mother, and the congresswoman as all being LIARS because you find the idea that President Trump would actually say that to induce too much dissonance.

It's really rather simple. trump is the very worst kind of BOIL, Blatant Outrageous Irrational Liar. Not to mention trump being hell bent on pulling the Nuclear Trigger ...

 

[cpwill]

Re: https://www.local10.com/news/politics/trump-speaks-to-widow-of-sgt-la-david-johnson

Something tells me that he would not have signed up for military service if he had known he would be killed.

He knew that was a risk, and signed up anyway. And for infantry (more risk). And for SOF (more risk). And he deserves to be honored for those choices; not have them stripped from him as though he were a victim in his own life.

 

[VanceMack]

Re: https://www.local10.com/news/politics/trump-speaks-to-widow-of-sgt-la-david-johnson

He knew that was a risk, and signed up anyway. And for infantry (more risk). And for SOF (more risk). And he deserves to be honored for those choices; not have them stripped from him as though he were a victim in his own life.

It’s almost like some of these folks have no idea about people that join the military.


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[Absentglare]

Re: https://www.local10.com/news/politics/trump-speaks-to-widow-of-sgt-la-david-johnson

He knew that was a risk, and signed up anyway. And for infantry (more risk). And for SOF (more risk). And he deserves to be honored for those choices; not have them stripped from him as though he were a victim in his own life.

It would have been great if you had written that down for our President to read. The President's rendition lacked such empathy and respect.

 

[Absentglare]

Re: https://www.local10.com/news/politics/trump-speaks-to-widow-of-sgt-la-david-johnson

It’s almost like some of these folks have no idea about people that join the military.


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Oh? Do you know a lot about losing your husband and then being called a liar by the president?

 

[yankintx]

Re: https://www.local10.com/news/politics/trump-speaks-to-widow-of-sgt-la-david-johnson

Trumps denial, he looked down several times while denying, classic action from a notorious fibber. He cant even lie convingly Stuff an apple in his mouth please Gen Kelly!!

 

[bubbabgone]

Re: https://www.local10.com/news/politics/trump-speaks-to-widow-of-sgt-la-david-johnson

Because it didn't change the context... Why say in more words the exact same thing that can be said in less?

Might as well use the precise words so no one can come around later to mention that they weren't.
It eliminates an argument.

 

[yankintx]

Re: https://www.local10.com/news/politics/trump-speaks-to-widow-of-sgt-la-david-johnson

Saying someone knew the risks and chose to serve anyway is not at all saying they caused their own death. It's saying they are brave, and they are worthy of honoring for that decision.



One of the ways we in the military do that is by respecting them for the choices they made.




Like when Obama went from the announcement to go golfing?



I challenge anyone without searching to name the other three killed. That we can't do that suggests that, for some reason, this is a major news story only in so much as it allows us to bash the President, just as FOX and talk radio made big deals out of things that allowed them to bash Obama.

I am retired Air Force. One of our core values, integrity. The CIC has zero, therefore he is a POS in my book. He got to the top of the list when ripped off disabled Vets thru Trump U. Any Vet who continues to excuse such behaviour is a partisan hack.

 

[bubbabgone]

Re: https://www.local10.com/news/politics/trump-speaks-to-widow-of-sgt-la-david-johnson

Neither rendition significantly changes the message, your argument is a failure.

Your comment was so short. You feel okay?

 

[holbritter]

Re: https://www.local10.com/news/politics/trump-speaks-to-widow-of-sgt-la-david-johnson

why?
do you have a recording of what was said and how?
how can you realistically blame any trump supporter of doubting this, when we all know msm is at war with trump?

Do you? Yes the MSM makes crap up and is obviously against Trump, but Trump also does say some pretty stupid things. In addition to that, why would you assume she listens to rap music? That's where the ignorant part comes in.

 

[Glen Contrarian]

Re: https://www.local10.com/news/politics/trump-speaks-to-widow-of-sgt-la-david-johnson

I am retired Air Force. One of our core values, integrity. The CIC has zero, therefore he is a POS in my book. He got to the top of the list when ripped off disabled Vets thru Trump U. Any Vet who continues to excuse such behaviour is a partisan hack.

Bravo Zulu from this retired Navy man!

 

[Manc Skipper]

Re: https://www.local10.com/news/politics/trump-speaks-to-widow-of-sgt-la-david-johnson

Saying someone knew the risks and chose to serve anyway is not at all saying they caused their own death. It's saying they are brave, and they are worthy of honoring for that decision.



One of the ways we in the military do that is by respecting them for the choices they made.




Like when Obama went from the announcement to go golfing?



I challenge anyone without searching to name the other three killed. That we can't do that suggests that, for some reason, this is a major news story only in so much as it allows us to bash the President, just as FOX and talk radio made big deals out of things that allowed them to bash Obama.

This morning, Trump STILL couldn't name the grieving widow he called yesterday.

“I had a very nice conversation with the woman, with the wife who sounded like a lovely woman,” Trump said. “Did not say what the congresswoman said and most people aren’t too surprised to hear that.”

 

[Tanngrisnir]

Re: https://www.local10.com/news/politics/trump-speaks-to-widow-of-sgt-la-david-johnson

It5 actually pales in comparison the crooked Hillary's: "What difference does it make?" rant in regards to the four Americans including an ambassador who were killed in Benghazi.

Yawn. Given the context in which she said it, it's not even remotely comparable. You have no idea what you're talking about. Yet again.

In Context: Hillary Clinton's 'What difference does it make' comment | PolitiFact

 

[Mr Person]

Oh! My! God! This call was made as the mother was at the flag-draped casket of her son, and caused her to break down and cry uncontrollably. She has now stopped crying. Her sadness has been replaced with much deserved anger.

Maybe Trump should stop listening to people saying that the doesn't call the families of dead service members, and just not call them.

This is a much different Donald Trump than the one who did interviews back in the 1990's. This is just an empty shell of what used to be a pretty intelligent guy.

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Whhh.....

Holy ****.





I thought "deplorables" was a bad move as far as statements go, but he's being defended here too. Defended always.

 

[yankintx]

Re: https://www.local10.com/news/politics/trump-speaks-to-widow-of-sgt-la-david-johnson

Bravo Zulu from this retired Navy man!

I work for the VA, a very satisfying job serving our Veterans. I overheard MANY conversations today at work in reference to Trump, it was not good, and these are Vets dissing Trump.

 

[poweRob]

Re: https://www.local10.com/news/politics/trump-speaks-to-widow-of-sgt-la-david-johnson

Might as well use the precise words so no one can come around later to mention that they weren't.
It eliminates an argument.

She was paraphrasing what she heard. It wasn't verbatim but was damn close. She was in an interview. It's not like she wrote it down upon hearing it.

 

[holbritter]

Re: https://www.local10.com/news/politics/trump-speaks-to-widow-of-sgt-la-david-johnson

Something tells me that he would not have signed up for military service if he had known he would be killed.

Don't compound with another stupid statement. Anyone who signs up for military service knows there is a risk and there is a chance of being killed. They are terribly naive if they don't know it.

 

[poweRob]

Re: https://www.local10.com/news/politics/trump-speaks-to-widow-of-sgt-la-david-johnson

Don't compound with another stupid statement. Anyone who signs up for military service knows there is a risk and there is a chance of being killed. They are terribly naive if they don't know it.

That's not what you tell a grieving widow.

 

[bubbabgone]

Re: https://www.local10.com/news/politics/trump-speaks-to-widow-of-sgt-la-david-johnson

You seem to be trying to divert from the fact that Trump is being disrespectful and unsympathetic, and trying to blame others for the issue that Trump is doing himself.

You are silent on the lies about Trump saying none of his predecessors called the families of fallen soldiers

... and lied about that for making political gains the memories of dead soldiers.

You try to divert the attention to non-relevant subjects, such as FEMA. Your misconceptions there could be addressed in a different thread. Why won't you face the issue? You seem to be trying to divert it from the points made with irrelevancies. Why are you trying to change the subject?? Why won't you address the actual points being made, rather than try to divert the conversation? You are all over the place trying to divert the way Trump is disrespecting soldiers. Why is that? It's not like he has been respectful of people's military service in the past you know.. it's not a one time incident with him.

That was Trump's big mistake here. He should never have brought up what he or other Presidents did or didn't do. It was a challenge to every news organization to dig up examples that show he was wrong.
When they went into the different versions of what he told the wife it seemed like just another effort to pile on without evidence that left everyone to choose sides and insist there was/was not any difference.

 

[holbritter]

Re: https://www.local10.com/news/politics/trump-speaks-to-widow-of-sgt-la-david-johnson

Oh? Do you know a lot about losing your husband and then being called a liar by the president?

Uhm, he didn't call the wife a liar.

 

[radcen]

Re: https://www.local10.com/news/politics/trump-speaks-to-widow-of-sgt-la-david-johnson

Ah yes, factual correctness “trumps” basic hman decency.

Trump supporters are mentally ill.

I was trying to think of an appropriate response, but you said it better than I would've.