Trump says he is likely to support ending federal ban on marijuana

[Grand Mal]

As will I, but I will give him props for not being afraid to say how he feels about the issue, which probably doesn't have much widespread support amongst his Evangelical fan base.

I agree. Props for taking the right stance. And as a bonus, pot, porn and Protestants aren't likely to add up to votes.

 

[TheGoverness]

No. I'm upset that you didn't read the OP and that you interjected idiotic partisanship into a thread that had none. Next time please read my OP if you're going to jump into one of the threads I start, and please keep your partisanship out of it if it's not a partisan thread. I don't think anyone wants to read about Obama in a thread about Trump and the current Congress.

Quiet, Obama supporter.

 

[trouble13]

I wonder what his Evangelical base is gonna say about this, though... [emoji38]

I think the majority of the nation is in favor of legalizing it. I can't imagine much political backlash for supporting this.

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[The Mark]

Trump has balls of steel.

Obama would never have done this

Not sure what the risk is, majority of people want it legal.

Obama should have, I agree.

 

[roguenuke]

Okay, I might be wrong, but didnt Obama have 1 or 2 years into his first 4 years control of congress??

So why didnt he do it then??

Before the states started actually legalizing marijuana at the rates they have been doing it. Like I said, he is the one who ordered the DEA to ease up on prosecutions for marijuana, particularly simple possession, and especially in those places where marijuana was legal in those states. Jeff Sessions is the one who rescinded the orders to not prosecute for marijuana (simple possession, low level crimes, allow states some leeway).

I fail to see where your position that he wouldn't have done this comes from?

https://www.npr.org/2018/01/04/575679429/attorney-general-rescinds-obama-era-marijuana-guidelines

And here was Obama's stance on marijuana in 2016.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/30/obama-says-marijuana-should-be-treated-like-cigarettes-or-alcohol/?utm_term=.edddb089277b

 

[late]

This is something I am unclear about. Nixon put pot in Schedule 1 against the advice of the medical community and his own commission that studied it.

The usual path starts with the DEA, but drug cops love drug laws, it's their paycheck...

Congress can do it, but they hardly ever do anything.

Which leaves the country in limbo.

What that means is that the most Trump is likely to actually do is carry on doing what Obama did. Of course, Sessions isn't likely to cooperate.

IOW, 2 steps backwards, and some noise about maybe taking a step forward.

 

[Desert Storm]

No. I'm upset that you didn't read the OP and that you interjected idiotic partisanship into a thread that had none. Next time please read my OP if you're going to jump into one of the threads I start, and please keep your partisanship out of it if it's not a partisan thread. I don't think anyone wants to read about Obama in a thread about Trump and the current Congress

Sooner or later, every thread turns into partisanship

 

[roguenuke]

Possibly a good point, though the footprint would be very different. But at second thought, including the tobacco companies probably wasn't relevant, so thanks for the call out.

As to why not, well...I wouldn't trust a tobacco company to only put pot in there... I mean, look at all the garbage they add to tobacco. No thanks...

Oh, I have no trust of them at all. They almost certainly would do the same thing or similar to marijuana cigarettes that they did/do to tobacco. I am far from a big tobacco supporter (despite being married to a smoker), but I also see them getting aboard this train and trying to run it as soon as it is legal if they feel (as most do) that legalization is coming soon.

 

[roguenuke]

My point was ALL Presidents before Trump were pulling off the weed bandaid slowly, but Trump is about to RIP IT OFF.
Whats so hard to understand about that??

Have you ever tried to rip off a bandaid slowly vs. ripping it off quickly??
That was my point, Trump has the balls to legalize weed federally almost overnight, and he wont care what anyone thinks of his decision.

I'm done explaining it to you now, if you still dont get it there's nothing more I can say

Says who? Most of the Democratic nominees in 2016 and even many of them now support legalizing marijuana (although this seems to be a sweeping trend even for many Republicans, depending on their area). If anyone is leading the way here, it is Dems, not Republicans. But it does tend to cross the aisles for all but the most staunchly unsupportive of the efforts.

61% of Americans favor legalizing marijuana | Pew Research Center

 

[tres borrachos]

Quiet, Obama supporter.

The things I learn about myself! What I can't figure out is why didn't I vote for him - twice in fact - when apparently I support him so much? I guess I should have cleaned my glasses better those days and I would have selected the "Obama" box on my ballots instead of the ones that said "McCain" and "Romney".

 

[RedAkston]

Sooner or later, every thread turns into partisanship

Thanks in part to partisan hacks. Congrats!

 

[roguenuke]

I imagine if she is on chemo then the anti-nausea must really help, as well as the increased appetite.

CBD could be very helpful for my son. I would love to see it legalized to at least allow for much more research into using it for medicine.

 

[tres borrachos]

Says who? Most of the Democratic nominees in 2016 and even many of them now support legalizing marijuana (although this seems to be a sweeping trend even for many Republicans, depending on their area). If anyone is leading the way here, it is Dems, not Republicans. But it does tend to cross the aisles for all but the most staunchly unsupportive of the efforts.

61% of Americans favor legalizing marijuana | Pew Research Center

Thanks Rogue - interesting link.

I think legalization of marijuana will actually get pretty broad support if it comes to that. Plus as the population ages (I mean the one that exists right at this very second) it will become more and more acceptable.

 

[roguenuke]

Having it "in your system" does not in any way mean you are impaired, it stays in your system for as much as 30 days after the intoxication has passed. Testing positive is meaningless. Having done it within a few hours, also meaningless.

I do think they need to come up with a reliable "breathalyzer" type thing to test as they would for alcohol for when people are driving while using it. Beyond that though, I see very little reason to not treat it similar to the way we treat tobacco and/or alcohol.

 

[JackA]

I'll believe it when I see it.

Exactly. What Trump says today he is just as likely to unsay tomorrow.

 

[Desert Storm]

I fail to see where your position that he wouldn't have done this comes from?

Thats why I asked the whole thing in a question form. Because I didnt know

 

[Grand Mal]

My point was ALL Presidents before Trump were pulling off the weed bandaid slowly, but Trump is about to RIP IT OFF.
Whats so hard to understand about that??

Have you ever tried to rip off a bandaid slowly vs. ripping it off quickly??
That was my point, Trump has the balls to legalize weed federally almost overnight, and he wont care what anyone thinks of his decision.

I'm done explaining it to you now, if you still dont get it there's nothing more I can say

Rip it off? After how many states have gone ahead already? Oh yeah, Trump's a trail-blazer alright. Balls that clang when he walks.
Damn the torpedoes!






(snicker!)

 

[Desert Storm]

Thanks in part to partisan hacks. Congrats!

Everyone here is partisan. Even the mods.

I noticed this forum is moderated by which way each mod leans politically, let that be right or left.

Not saying there's anything wrong with that, just saying thats the way it is

 

[Desert Storm]

Before the states started actually legalizing marijuana at the rates they have been doing it. Like I said, he is the one who ordered the DEA to ease up on prosecutions for marijuana, particularly simple possession, and especially in those places where marijuana was legal in those states. Jeff Sessions is the one who rescinded the orders to not prosecute for marijuana (simple possession, low level crimes, allow states some leeway).

I fail to see where your position that he wouldn't have done this comes from?

https://www.npr.org/2018/01/04/575679429/attorney-general-rescinds-obama-era-marijuana-guidelines

And here was Obama's stance on marijuana in 2016.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/30/obama-says-marijuana-should-be-treated-like-cigarettes-or-alcohol/?utm_term=.edddb089277b

Thank you. Excellent response

 

[BWG]

Okay, I might be wrong, but didnt Obama have 1 or 2 years into his first 4 years control of congress??


So why didnt he do it then??

Don't ask that question, it confuses liberals who think that Pres. Obama would have turned the world into a paradise if it hadn't been for those mean old Republicans...

:mrgreen:

tightie righties are continually confused by facts.

Legislation does not become law without the Senate. The Senate operates with the 60-vote-requirement filibuster rule.

“Total control” of Congress by Democrats (i.e. overcome the filibuster) lasted all of 4 months. From September 24, 2009 through February 4, 2010

Now I know President Barack H. Obama was a superhuman, but he had to work in the mere mortal's world. :lamo

 

[beefheart]

I wonder what his Evangelical base is gonna say about this, though... :lol:

Its the devils weed!!!

 

[ThoughtEx.]

This won't get him in the good graces of Sessions. But if this is true, I will be the first one to applaud Trump's decision.

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump said he likely will support a congressional effort to end the federal ban on marijuana, a major step that would reshape the pot industry and end the threat of a Justice Department crackdown.

Trump's remarks put him sharply at odds with Attorney General Jeff Sessions on the issue. The bill in question, pushed by a bipartisan coalition, would allow states to go forward with legalization unencumbered by threats of federal prosecution.

Trump made his comments to a gaggle of reporters Friday morning just before he boarded a helicopter on his way to the G-7 summit in Canada. His remarks came the day after the bipartisan group of lawmakers proposed its measure.


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Trump says he is likely to support ending federal ban on marijuana

Can't find any fault with him doing this. Especially if it's in concert with Congress. He would deserve a lot of good will for doing so.

 

[RAMOSS]

I agree. Props for taking the right stance. And as a bonus, pot, porn and Protestants aren't likely to add up to votes.

Or sex with porn stars.

 

[What if...?]

Well almost no one...
https://www.denverpost.com/2017/08/25/colorado-marijuana-traffic-fatalities/

This old bull****?

The state has been claiming this for years.

Pot stays in the system for weeks after use.

They count any presence of THC, regardless of level, as "pot related".

Its a lie.

Always has been.

 

[RAMOSS]

The things I learn about myself! What I can't figure out is why didn't I vote for him - twice in fact - when apparently I support him so much? I guess I should have cleaned my glasses better those days and I would have selected the "Obama" box on my ballots instead of the ones that said "McCain" and "Romney".

I would vote for McCain or Romney over Trump any day of the week.