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Trump Resignation Watch

Ikari said:
lol, ok

All he's done is cry to twitter, get his EO's knocked down by the courts, not get anything passed through Congress, endanger America's relationships with allies and turn us into a global laughing stock. But I guess if you're cool with that....


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The EOs that were knocked down, were the ones on criminal illegals. All other EOs have gone through.

The ones that were knocked down constitutes an illegal action by those courts and are Unconstitutional, IMO and the courts were way out of line. The SC will have to decide it.
The President had full authority to issue those EOs and it was in his power, as outlined by law, to do so.
The allies thing is BS and the Congress is to blame for not getting things passed. I think they ought to throw out healthcare altogether because the government has no business sticking their nose into it.
The government controlling our lives, is a bad thing.
 
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Mario said:
The EOs that were knocked down, were the ones on criminal illegals. All other EOs have gone through.

The ones that were knocked down constitutes an illegal action by those courts and are Unconstitutional, IMO and the courts were way out of line. The SC will have to decide it.
The President had full authority to issue those EOs and it was in his power, as outlined by law, to do so.
The allies thing is BS and the Congress is to blame for not getting things passed. I think they ought to throw out healthcare altogether because the government has no business sticking their nose into it.
The government controlling our lives, is a bad thing.
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Whole lot of excuses. Trump causes these problems, he proliferates them, he cannot control his admin or effectively preside over it. From his tweets, to his unsubstantiated claims, to him not getting anything of note passed; it's on him.

A truly undeserving President, probably the worst this country has ever had to endure, and certainly the most embarrassing.
 
Winston said:
They weren't talking about the Flynn investigation. They were talking about the Russia probe. Trump asked James Comey, in what clearly made Comey uncomfortable, to let Flynn go. Obstruction of Justice. No way around it.
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IMO, a memo by Comey, without collaboration, is worthless on it's face. There is a lot of gray area in all those words.
Also, if Comey has been writing memos to himself, there must be memos in meetings with Obama.

Under the law, any attempt to obstruct justice, must be reported immediately by Comey to the Dept. of Justice.
Comey is now in legal jeopardy if he did not report immediately. The news of this memo did not surface until after Comey was fired.
So, if he failed to report it as an obstruction of justice, when it happened, Comey is violation of the law himself.
 
Never Give Up!

That was the main theme of Trump's speech to the Coast Guard Academy graduation ceremony, today.

"No matter how bad people treat you, never give up. Keep fighting."

Go Trump!

Screw the media!
 
Mario said:
IMO, a memo by Comey, without collaboration, is worthless on it's face. There is a lot of gray area in all those words.
Also, if Comey has been writing memos to himself, there must be memos in meetings with Obama.

Under the law, any attempt to obstruct justice, must be reported immediately by Comey to the Dept. of Justice.
Comey is now in legal jeopardy if he did not report immediately. The news of this memo did not surface until after Comey was fired.
So, if he failed to report it as an obstruction of justice, when it happened, Comey is violation of the law himself.
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You'll need to cite the statute from where your claims that failure to report an obstruction of justice is a violation of federal or state law.

He didn't write memos on his conversation with Obama because Obama was an honest person.

And yes, "contamporaneous notes" by FBI agents are admissable in court, not worthless at face value, at all.
 
Ikari said:
Whole lot of excuses. Trump causes these problems, he proliferates them, he cannot control his admin or effectively preside over it. From his tweets, to his unsubstantiated claims, to him not getting anything of note passed; it's on him.

A truly undeserving President, probably the worst this country has ever had to endure, and certainly the most embarrassing.
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Nope, the worst by far was Obama and all the illegal crap he did. Crap that was ignored by the MSM.

You cleverly didn't factor in all the obstruction and down right dirty tactics that are being used by the media in all this, plus the people who are leaking WH activities.
There are a bunch of people from all angles, working against Trump. Obama didn't have that. Trump should have fired any and all Obama appointees on Day One.
 
Winston said:
You'll need to cite the statute from where your claims that failure to report an obstruction of justice is a violation of federal or state law.

He didn't write memos on his conversation with Obama because Obama was an honest person.

And yes, "contamporaneous notes" by FBI agents are admissable in court, not worthless at face value, at all.
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Obama was an honest person. :lamo The most corrupt person in the WH, in recent times.

I think they are worthless without corroboration.
 
Mario said:
Nope, the worst by far was Obama and all the illegal crap he did. Crap that was ignored by the MSM.

You cleverly didn't factor in all the obstruction and down right dirty tactics that are being used by the media in all this, plus the people who are leaking WH activities.
There are a bunch of people from all angles, working against Trump. Obama didn't have that. Trump should have fired any and all Obama appointees on Day One.
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More excuses. Oh, the Media stopped Trump from getting anything of note passed? The Media is at fault for Trump's tweets? The Media is at fault for Trump's complete inability to effectively run an administration?

lol

There was a time the GOP and conservatives were about personal accountability and responsibility, lol

Obama was the run of the mill Republocrat, expanding government and our wars to profit the Corporate-State and Party Structure. But even he wasn't as bad as Trump is turning out to be. Trump is just Corporate Establishment, part of the same system, the other side of the Corporate-State. But if anything it shows us why we shouldn't put the Corporate side in charge of the State, lol.

There has been no President so damaging to the Republic and so globally embarrassing as Trump.
 
Mario said:
Obama was an honest person. :lamo The most corrupt person in the WH, in recent times.

I think they are worthless without corroboration.
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I'll be the first one to agree with you that Obama largely did the bidding of his donors. That he wasn't really all that progressive. Because progressive objective run contrary to Wall St. objectives. But, Obama screwing over his voters, is an entirely different discussion, than Trump telling the world he would've won the popular vote if it wasn't for illegal Mexicans voting and lying about a memo where he obstructed justice.
 
Mario said:
Obama was an honest person. :lamo The most corrupt person in the WH, in recent times.

I think they are worthless without corroboration.
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It's kind of like an FBI agent in a witness box reading from a notebook. Do you assume he can't be trusted without corroboration?
How does it happen that people come to see the world and everyone in it as corrupt and untrustworthy? Everyone, from the President down, is assumed to be a liar unless he has backup, and it better be the right sort of backup, too.
 
Abbazorkzog said:
You mean the same NSA that tapped Merkel's phone and spies on our allies and American citizens....
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nope the NSA that was in the same room as the conversation with the Russians.
of course what you post has to do with anything I have no idea.
 
Winston said:
I'll be the first one to agree with you that Obama largely did the bidding of his donors. That he wasn't really all that progressive. Because progressive objective run contrary to Wall St. objectives. But, Obama screwing over his voters, is an entirely different discussion, than Trump telling the world he would've won the popular vote if it wasn't for illegal Mexicans voting and lying about a memo where he obstructed justice.
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You can't really believe that illegals voting, didn't make a huge difference in Hillary's numbers.
If it weren't for dead bodies and illegals voting, the Dems would lose about a third of their base! :lamo

What lie? What memo? It's all speculative. You sound like a proponent for GW. Insufficient evidence Winston, insufficient evidence!
Stop believing all the crap being generated by the media. They are "fabricating" more news, than they are reporting on.
 
Grand Mal said:
It's kind of like an FBI agent in a witness box reading from a notebook. Do you assume he can't be trusted without corroboration?
How does it happen that people come to see the world and everyone in it as corrupt and untrustworthy? Everyone, from the President down, is assumed to be a liar unless he has backup, and it better be the right sort of backup, too.
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The testimony of any "officer of the court" should be believed, that is true. But, it can't stand on it's own, corroboration is needed.
That memo written, those notes in the notebook, all contribute to a ruling, but not by themselves.

ludin said:
nope the NSA that was in the same room as the conversation with the Russians.
of course what you post has to do with anything I have no idea.
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Me either.

JackA said:
You haven't noticed. Make believe is Trump's actual world.
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Nope. That was the name of the Obama doll, by Mattel. Big clearance sale on them now.

There was:
Make Believe Fast and Furious
Make Believe Benghazi
Make Believe I was born in Hawaii
Make Believe I was gay
Make Believe I was a doper
Make Believe I am not a crook
 
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calamity said:
Forget Fourth of July, I am beginning to wonder if Trumpy even makes it to Memorial Day. :lol:
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The white house needs to collect all the rent money saved, as trump seems to live rent free everyday in so many peoples heads.
 
Ikari said:
Hopefully it doesn't bode well for his re-election, but that is on the DNC as much as it is on Trump. As we saw in the last election, the DNC can put up folk to lose to Trump.
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In 2020 Trump will be running on his record, which is entirely different than the "Make American Great Again" drivel he was spewing in 2015/2016.
 
I suspect he's weighing his options right now. And, if a deal was put on the table which ends the investigation into his money laundering and the illegal actions of his kids, he'll take it and resign.
 
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