Trump Genius in Wire-Tapping Charge

[Vox]

I'm not seeing the 4D chess here. If Trump was really trolling to push the MSM anywhere, why weren't his spokespeople better prepared after 3 days to respond to where he is getting his information from? They've come out of the gate looking like fools, and when they do, Trump does.

Nobody said Trump is trolling to push the MSM.

Trump is using the identical, same tactics against the Democrats that the Democrats used against him with the phony allegations that the Trump campaign colluded with Russian to swing the election.

He's mocking them.

As for his staff responding to where he's getting his information--they''re simply parroting the Democrats responses to the question of where THEY'RE getting their information from.

That's the beauty of it.

Looking like fools? Yes, they're ALL looking like fools, because quoting unnamed sources as "evidence" makes you look like a fool.

Targeted irony.

Perfect.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

I'm not seeing the 4D chess here. If Trump was really trolling to push the MSM anywhere, why weren't his spokespeople better prepared after 3 days to respond to where he is getting his information from? They've come out of the gate looking like fools, and when they do, Trump does.

The WH sent out a press secretary to tell us that Trump really meant only that someone should check to see IF Obama had Trump's phones tapped.

 

[VanceMack]

No way to run a country, though.

This. He would get more traction if they just told the leftists to **** off...enjoy their continued circle jerk, and then set about the business of running the Exec branch and just ignore the steady stream of mindless droll from the left. Eve liberals are getting tired of it. Instead...to his great discredit...he is engaging.

Theres probably a lesson in that for all of us.

 

[Diving Mullah]

He's doing it again. He totally turned the tables on Democrats and made them look stupid.

They were gaining traction and getting attention with accusations of Russian collusion using ZERO EVIDENCE and mysterious unknown sources that were not named.

Trump turned around and did the SAME THING to them by accusing Obama of wiretapping......and he used ZERO EVIDENCE and mysterious unknown sources......that are not named.

If fake sources and zero evidence are valid for the Democrats to use against Trump.......so they must be valid for Trump to use against the Democrats.

Trump, the master strategist, has outmaneuvered them again by using tactics identical to theirs.

The fascinating 2017 political war continues......and I'm enjoying the games.

Yes Brilliant....Because now not only President of United States has lost all credibility and has been marked as Lying president who blabs out whatever wacky thought in his head, subsequently United States has also lost all credibility by not having a coherent and rational voice specially when right and left hands adminstration are constantly contradict each other.
Brilliant tacticians, by Putin to discredit United States in the Eyes of the World... I am sure you are proud!


Diving Mullah

 

[SenorXm/Sirius]

In 2012 with NO evidence Trump got 40% of the GOP base to believe Obama was a Kenynan and the Hawaiian BC was a fake. Trump lied about that, and even lied about sending a 'team' to hawaii to prove the BC was a fake. he never proved a thing, he never apologised for the lies and Birther nonsense.

That laid the groundwork for what is happening now. He sees he can lie and spew any BS about the libs, the Moderate Republicans, the Dems, the Media, and brown people and the 40% of the GOP will believe him.

He's got a carte blanc and he will continue to use it.

 

[<alt>doxygen]

This. He would get more traction if they just told the leftists to **** off...enjoy their continued circle jerk, and then set about the business of running the Exec branch and just ignore the steady stream of mindless droll from the left. Eve liberals are getting tired of it. Instead...to his great discredit...he is engaging.

Theres probably a lesson in that for all of us.

^This.

Unfortunately, I don't think Trump can help himself. This behavior is nothing new.

 

[SenorXm/Sirius]

I find it funny and sad some people are blaming the Dems for Trump's behavior. Trump started this nonsense years ago, and then during the REPUBLICAN primaries accused Cruz's father of being involved in the JFK assassination.

Trump's been acting like this and throwing out lies and unfounded accusations LONG before he won in November.

This BS is all on him and the people hwo voted him into office.

 

[iguanaman]

No offense taken.

Apparently you don't understand what Trump has done. By mimicking the Democrats utterly dishonest tactics he has exposed them and embarrassed them.

He's staying one step ahead of them and they appear powerless to come up with any attack that will stick.

Speaking of powerless, what has Trump done so far? His 1st 100 days are turning out to be a joke.

 

[Exactice]

I agree to this premise...... Reversal of tactics.... Its sad though, the double standards....

Unnamed Source, states Trump/Trump admin had contacts with Russian. Investigation Need and requested, on going and really no definitive answer, with legit proof yet...

vs

Trump States wiretapping during campaign, dismissed as no evidence.


The POTUS, just stated his concern about wiretapping, the highest person in this country (lying or not lying) at this point he is still the POTUS and the news automatically dismisses it. But when it goes against him everybody in their mother wants an investigation.

Every thing the POTUS has stated, immigration, voter fraud, Vote Hacking etc etc.. has been dismissed by the media as unfounded. Regardless if it was full of it or not, The media does not take any of his allegations seriously, yet, when someone wants to accuse him of something, the media goes nutzoid. What ever happen to the 11 women that stated that he touched them or molested them or what, That just disappears into the nether? If 1 women accused me, then it seems legit, but 11 sounds like Trump has Octopus hands.....If Trump paid them off, wouldnt we know? Seriously.


Dont get me wrong, the fact that Trump is using twitter for half his crap is like a 12 yearold girl..... But the point is, there is a double standard, The media is being slanderous and onesided with "fake" news to boost ratings and so forth, But after a while it becomes the boy who cried wolf..... People are saying the country is now being divided, well look... it is intentional being done so.....

 

[Linc]

He's doing it again. He totally turned the tables on Democrats and made them look stupid.

They were gaining traction and getting attention with accusations of Russian collusion using ZERO EVIDENCE and mysterious unknown sources that were not named.

Trump turned around and did the SAME THING to them by accusing Obama of wiretapping......and he used ZERO EVIDENCE and mysterious unknown sources......that are not named.

If fake sources and zero evidence are valid for the Democrats to use against Trump.......so they must be valid for Trump to use against the Democrats.

Trump, the master strategist, has outmaneuvered them again by using tactics identical to theirs.

The fascinating 2017 political war continues......and I'm enjoying the games.

trump hasn't made anyone look stupid except himself and the stooges in his administration walking back trump's evidence-free lies .

 

[Linc]

Speaking of powerless, what has Trump done so far? His 1st 100 days are turning out to be a joke.

trump's 2nd 100 lies are reaching even the most uninterested Americans .

 

[Linc]

^This.

Unfortunately, I don't think Trump can help himself. This behavior is nothing new.

People still aren't giving Chaos Bannon near the credit he deserves for driving trump over the cliff .

 

[SenorXm/Sirius]

What ever happen to the 11 women that stated that he touched them or molested them or what, That just disappears into the nether? If 1 women accused me, then it seems legit, but 11 sounds like Trump has Octopus hands.....If Trump paid them off, wouldnt we know? Seriously.

Trump was caught on TAPE saying he likes to grab women by the ***** and he was still elected President. Why would ANY woman take this any further? Why put themselves through more hell? People HERE defended and excused what Trump did and then blamed the women.

He was caught on TAPE, and it didn't matter. What could any woman do or say now to make a difference? It would just be hell for her.

 

[Exactice]

trump hasn't made anyone look stupid except himself and the stooges in his administration walking back trump's evidence-free lies .

Honestly, I think now they "All" look stupid, Trump and media alike, its like 2 kids on the school play ground slapping each other......If his Idea to discredit the media by playing their game, honestly its working because they all look like idiots.

I have a hard time believing anything I see on the news now, because I have to wait another 2 weeks for it to get buried and forgotten.


Again dont get me wrong, Trump acts like a 2 year old, (no, no, no, no it was so and so) But the media is equally causing a potential uproar, instigating violence and protest for the wrong reasons IMHO

 

[Exactice]

Trump was caught on TAPE saying he likes to grab women by the ***** and he was still elected President. Why would ANY woman take this any further? Why put themselves through more hell? People HERE defended and excused what Trump did and then blamed the women.

He was caught on TAPE, and it didn't matter. What could any woman do or say now to make a difference? It would just be hell for her.

Wait so he was caught on tape saying that? was he CAUGHT on TAPE actually doing that? While I dont condone his comments...... realistically speaking.... and again LETS be real here.... People say stupid stuff all the time, especially in the privacy of their home.... Think "Donald Sterling"...jeez I wonder if the first name is the cause LOL...


Point being. Hell I have said some dumb stuff that "could" get me into particular trouble in the court of public opinion. BUT, have I ever acted on it where I could face, CIVIL or CRIMINAL Charges? NO I have not..... 11 women that went out of their way to say that they were touched inappropriately.
1 goes on national TV... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGzlaU53RKs

She went this far, and now she is scared to get counter sued? I wonder why?.... seriously women are empowered and have the strength/courage and protection to stand against their attacker..... Trump is not a Dark Alley Criminal, with a knife/gun. If you have it in you to accuse, then take it all the way. 11 women.....????

Seriously.... what happened to all of them........

 

[VanceMack]

See...that ****s just funny. More of the same posters whining about Trump and his lack of sources...and in doing so they **** themselves over Russia and Putin. Because...you know...sources are important. Sort of. Maybe. Which side are we talking about here. Oh wait..Russian hacking? Well...you know...Thats different. I mean...experts say...............

Remember when Trump peed on those Russian hooker? Or was it the other way around. Either way...good times........

 

[Kurmugeon]

LOL!

All he has done is do exactly the same thing to the Democrats as they did to him. It demonstrates their lack of integrity. That will do them no good in 2018.......it will work against them.

But is Trump accounting for 50 years of Americans accepting ridiculous double standards in the contest between Left and Right in just about every venue?

I fear that Americans are so accustomed to double standards, that they will once again meekly accept them in this situation.

We have double stardards in proof of "Hate Crimes".

We have double standards in race/gender "Civil Rights".

We have double standards in Bakers vs LGBT.

We have double standards in political lies told to pass legislation.

We have double standards in accuracy/documentation/proceedures and Calibrations in the proving of scientific theories.

We have double standards in arrests, prosecutions, and sentencing for Race-Rioters.

We have double standards for proving eligibility to vote.

We have double standards for Muslim separation of Church and State.

We have double standards making racial genocide threats.




Why shouldn't we also meekly accept double standards in Presidential Claims of abuse of power?

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[Vetplus40]

No, all Trump has prove is he is the biggest disgrace as president this country has every seen and shown what a man-child he is. What really will be amusing is when the Republican congress pays the price for his disgrace in 2018 and then Trump gets fired in 2020.

The fact that a poster actually thinks it is "funny" is bizarre in and if itself. Truly sad.

 

[SenorXm/Sirius]

Wait so he was caught on tape saying that? was he CAUGHT on TAPE actually doing that? While I dont condone his comments...... realistically speaking.... and again LETS be real here.... People say stupid stuff all the time, especially in the privacy of their home.... Think "Donald Sterling"...jeez I wonder if the first name is the cause LOL...


Point being. Hell I have said some dumb stuff that "could" get me into particular trouble in the court of public opinion. BUT, have I ever acted on it where I could face, CIVIL or CRIMINAL Charges? NO I have not..... 11 women that went out of their way to say that they were touched inappropriately.
1 goes on national TV... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGzlaU53RKs

She went this far, and now she is scared to get counter sued? I wonder why?.... seriously women are empowered and have the strength/courage and protection to stand against their attacker..... Trump is not a Dark Alley Criminal, with a knife/gun. If you have it in you to accuse, then take it all the way. 11 women.....????

Seriously.... what happened to all of them........

Well you're kind of proving my point. YOU are not POTUS, or running for POTUS.

He SAID it on TAPE.. Words have consequences, but in this case those words DIDN'T matter. He was still elected president, and most of Trump's supporters and the Con Media machine blamed the women, not Trump.

So why would ANY women want to go through that again. And now because Trump is POTUS it would be worse for the women.

Again, right now the man has a carte blanche on anything he says. he can lie, accuse, he can say anything about anyone and get away with it. But being he's an egomaniac that's very dangerous.

 

[grip]

He's doing it again. He totally turned the tables on Democrats and made them look stupid.

They were gaining traction and getting attention with accusations of Russian collusion using ZERO EVIDENCE and mysterious unknown sources that were not named.

Trump turned around and did the SAME THING to them by accusing Obama of wiretapping......and he used ZERO EVIDENCE and mysterious unknown sources......that are not named.

If fake sources and zero evidence are valid for the Democrats to use against Trump.......so they must be valid for Trump to use against the Democrats.

Trump, the master strategist, has outmaneuvered them again by using tactics identical to theirs.

The fascinating 2017 political war continues......and I'm enjoying the games.

He's eventually going to overplay his hand with this strategy. Wild cards work for every player.

 

[Exactice]

Well you're kind of proving my point. YOU are not POTUS, or running for POTUS.

He SAID it on TAPE.. Words have consequences, but in this case those words DIDN'T matter. He was still elected president, and most of Trump's supporters and the Con Media machine blamed the women, not Trump.

So why would ANY women want to go through that again. And now because Trump is POTUS it would be worse for the women.

Again, right now the man has a carte blanche on anything he says. he can lie, accuse, he can say anything about anyone and get away with it. But being he's an egomaniac that's very dangerous.

Of course I would agree, that I am not running for the POTUS so yes, a different scenario =)

With that, You bring up a great point. This man "said" something stupid, Yet his politics (while limited) and his actions as of current speak for themselves. (right or wrong, popular or not) The man is doing something......and from my personal belief he is doing more (work) wise than he has said BS wise, in reference to his actual duties as the POTUS.


He was elected, for what ever reason, electoral wise, with that, people looked pass his "scumbag" appearance and hoped and prayed that his politics and his mouth had some truth.... to me, he is still a scumbag LOL, but ...... his duties as the POTUS right now seems to be living up to what he said he would..... right or wrong, agree or disagree....hes doing something in my opinion.

WITH that.... why would any women want to go through it again? WELL... if they have PROOF, if they are RIGHT, if TRUMP indeed molested, touched them inappropriately and the have proof without a doubt. The PUBLIC should be aware of his actions...and he SHOULD be held accountable for his horrible actions...... THAT is why 1 out of the 11+ women that said he did, should stand up for it.......The problem is.....I doubt they have an viable proof........

here is a funny one..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dWgCs1v4lU Fast Forward to 11:02, They gave consent, and then withdraw consent.... (someone gives consent, the night before, regrets it the next night and then turns around and calls them a rapist, Thats ok? Thats how things work?)

I know I have brushed up on women by accident, I know I have given women a hug consequential, but if they turned around and said I touched them inappropriately I would love for them to prove so....... again 11+ women, NOT one of them could prove other wise?



As for your last statement, Carte blanche...... cant disagree with you on that one..... like I said, its like 2 kids in a playground fighting..... its not good, but they both look like idiots.....

 

[Linc]

Honestly, I think now they "All" look stupid, Trump and media alike, its like 2 kids on the school play ground slapping each other......If his Idea to discredit the media by playing their game, honestly its working because they all look like idiots.

I have a hard time believing anything I see on the news now, because I have to wait another 2 weeks for it to get buried and forgotten.


Again dont get me wrong, Trump acts like a 2 year old, (no, no, no, no it was so and so) But the media is equally causing a potential uproar, instigating violence and protest for the wrong reasons IMHO

The sooner trump supporters realize that Bannon and his circle are behind all of this CHAOS the better.

The fact that Priebus is now being hung out to dry by WH staffers should concern all sane GOPs and their lawmakers.

The fact that trump trashed Priebus on Friday and left him home before a big RNC fund-raiser in Florida raised many GOP donor eyebrows.

The fact that trump got his 'Intel' from Breitbart before he made these libelous lies must disturb even the most loyal trump supporters.

IMHO, trump actually made his Russia problems worse. trump supporters are digging in, smearing Democrats and the media reporting against him.

trump keeps starting wars at home that he can't win, while North Korea shot off ballistic missiles on the 2nd of one of trump's MIA weekends. I'd prefer he go to Camp David and actually learn his job one of these weekends .

 

[Exactice]

The sooner trump supporters realize that Bannon and his circle are behind all of this CHAOS the better.

The fact that Priebus is now being hung out to dry by WH staffers should concern all sane GOPs and their lawmakers. Opinion

The fact that trump trashed Priebus on Friday and left him home before a big RNC fund-raiser in Florida raised many GOP donor eyebrows. If he F-ed up, he F-ed up, Trump Fires everyone any anyone you saw it on TV, If your own people make mistakes, you hold them accountable....Flynn, Gone before he could do his job...... arent you not happy.....???? He kicks his own people out, if they are wrong......

The fact that trump got his 'Intel' from Breitbart before he made these libelous lies must disturb even the most loyal trump supporters. Pot Calling the kettle black on this one

IMHO, trump actually made his Russia problems worse. trump supporters are digging in, smearing Democrats and the media reporting against him. BUT BUT, I THOUGHT TRUMP AND THE RUSSIANS WERE WORKING TOGETHER??????.......LOL.......

trump keeps starting wars at home that he can't win, while North Korea shot off ballistic missiles on the 2nd of one of trump's MIA weekends. I'd prefer he go to Camp David and actually learn his job one of these weekends .NK has been trying to shoot missiles every admin.....EVERY ADMINISTRATION, technology is getting advanced, they are learning.....its not a matter of if, its a matter of when.... does matter who the POTUS is, they are going to keep trying...its not only on Trump......

We can twist it anyway we want..... I know I have done it.... but lets see his policies and if he stabilize the country, then we can describe the guy after he has done his work....

 

[trouble13]

He hasn't presented any evidence. He has no basis to say anything without any evidence.

Apparently he has evidence that he was tapped per what the new york times has reported.

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[Thorgasm]

Ah, but we have a LONG way to go before he makes that decision.

Let's wait at least a couple of years before counting him out.

I'm sure he will accuse Obama of kidnapping the Lindburgh baby before it's all over.