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Trump: Epstein “stole” young woman from Mar-a-Lago spa

HenryChinaski said:
Why aren’t you asking yourself why Trump was employing underage girls?
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Lots of resort employ teens but they don't usually work in the spa, which is often requires special training and licensing. But, this was 25 years ago and in FL so who knows ??
And tell me how likely it is that the resort owner knows about the comings and goings individual teen girl employees at his resort? That's hella creepy.
 
I'm not going to bother replying to the lunacy individually but the rather clear indication is that Epstein was recruiting from Mar-a-Lago. Trump, since he gave Epstein the boot, obviously had an issue with that. It is NOT an indication that Trump knew what Epstein was up to. As far as the ultimate falling out between Trump and Epstein, that appears to have happened over a real estate deal that both he and Epstein were competing for.

From a purely pragmatic standpoint it's likely that several people, including Trump, figured Epstein for a bit of a creep around young women but just backed off that whole issue because it's not something you want to accuse someone of without SOLID proof or a direct complaint. After all, if it really is just a massage then there's nothing illegal about it and raising a stink can come back to bite you.

I'm going to hazard a guess, and it's just a guess, that this second attempt to recruit someone from the spa was the straw that broke the camel's back with Trump and Trump booted Epstein from the club. Poaching employees is as good a reason as any to get rid of someone that other members probably had an issue with. As far as Trump being generous when talking about Epstein, that's what the guy does. He praises everyone until they piss him off.

None of this, if one looks at it objectively, puts Trump in a bad light. Some of you, however, are looking at this with EXTREME bias and couldn't manage an ounce of objectivity if your lives depended on it.
 
roberthughey said:
Trump doesn't the hiring of of low level employees.
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He knew when she left! Doesn't that raise red flags for you???
roberthughey said:
It's legal for a 17 year old to work as a "spa attendant" where Giuffre worked.
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Perhaps. Spas often have different rules because of licensing and health and safety.
 
W_Heisenberg said:
The news being reported today is that Trump knew Giuffre was "stolen" from him by Epstein and that Trump was angry about it.

What's newsworthy about this is as follows:

1. Trump's personal knowledge of what happened.

2. Trump's emotional reaction to Giuffre being "stolen."

3. Trump changing his story.
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You are exaggerating to the extreme.

Politico hasn't discovered something new.
 
roberthughey said:
Trump doesn't the hiring of of low level employees.

It's legal for a 17 year old to work as a "spa attendant" where Giuffre worked.
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Trumps CFO and other staff testified in court that Trump knows every little nuance of all his businesses, well beyond micromanaging. Every employee, where they are what they’re doing Trump signs every single paycheck..
Trump knew everything.
 
roberthughey said:
Trump doesn't the hiring of of low level employees.
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Exactly.

Why would Trump know the name of some underage girl who just folds towels?

Why be angry about her being hired by someone else? Who cares? You can get anyone to fold towels.

It doesn't make any sense.
 
lynnwinslow said:
Epstein was "taking" underage spa workers to do what? Epstein didn't have a spa. Why did Trump have underage girls working (Virginia Guiffre) at his spa?
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This is how gentlemen pimps handle their business. Epstein took one of Trump's underage working girls and Trump dropped the hammer on him. Epstein would have done better to just offer to buy her from Trump straight out. The art of the deal!
 
Lutherf said:
I'm not going to bother replying to the lunacy individually but the rather clear indication is that Epstein was recruiting from Mar-a-Lago. Trump, since he gave Epstein the boot, obviously had an issue with that. It is NOT an indication that Trump knew what Epstein was up to. As far as the ultimate falling out between Trump and Epstein, that appears to have happened over a real estate deal that both he and Epstein were competing for.

From a purely pragmatic standpoint it's likely that several people, including Trump, figured Epstein for a bit of a creep around young women but just backed off that whole issue because it's not something you want to accuse someone of without SOLID proof or a direct complaint. After all, if it really is just a massage then there's nothing illegal about it and raising a stink can come back to bite you.

I'm going to hazard a guess, and it's just a guess, that this second attempt to recruit someone from the spa was the straw that broke the camel's back with Trump and Trump booted Epstein from the club. Poaching employees is as good a reason as any to get rid of someone that other members probably had an issue with. As far as Trump being generous when talking about Epstein, that's what the guy does. He praises everyone until they piss him off.

None of this, if one looks at it objectively, puts Trump in a bad light. Some of you, however, are looking at this with EXTREME bias and couldn't manage an ounce of objectivity if your lives depended on it.
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You doth protest too much, methinks.
 
lynnwinslow said:
He knew when she left! Doesn't that raise red flags for you???

Perhaps. Spas often have different rules because of licensing and health and safety.
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It's known information she worked at that spa.

Of course Trump would be aware of the facts given the circumstances.

It's his spa.
 
roberthughey said:
Politico hasn't discovered something new.
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This is not true.

1. Trump repeatedly said his falling out with Epstein was about a real estate, not Epstein "stealing" an underage employee who folds towels.

2. Trump repeatedly said his falling out with Epstein came much later, not in 2000. So he's either lying now, or he was lying before.

3. It is new information that Trump knew Giuffre by name and was angry that she was hired by Epstein.
 
roberthughey said:
You are exaggerating to the extreme.
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I am making no exaggerations. I am speculating based on known facts, facts that Trump himself as revealed to the public. And I am clearly labeling what is a fact and what is my own speculation.
 
Lutherf said:
I asked someone else and didn't get a response so I'll ask you; what is the significance of this to you? You posted the thread so what do you think it indicates about anything?
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It’s a window into how Trump thinks. He wasn’t at all bothered by Epstein raping underage girls. Instead, he wasn’t upset that Epstein pouched workers from him.

What bothers me is that he refers to these spa workers as his property, like slaves.
 
W_Heisenberg said:
An underage minimum wage employee? Why would Trump be mad about an underage minimum wage employee being "stolen" from him?

If Epstein "stole" an executive maybe. Not someone folding towels. Anyone can fold towels. Trump was mad for a different reason.
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He wasn't.
He was angry about a bunch of them being stolen.
 
Lutherf said:
I'm not going to bother replying to the lunacy individually but the rather clear indication is that Epstein was recruiting from Mar-a-Lago. Trump, since he gave Epstein the boot, obviously had an issue with that. It is NOT an indication that Trump knew what Epstein was up to.
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It is an indication that he knew Epstein was up to something.

It's very strange for someone like Trump to be angry at someone stealing a towel-folder from their business. Folding towels is not a special skill. It's a minimum wage job. Trump could have hired tens of thousands of people to immediately replace Giuffre. It's strange that Trump remembered Giuffre and was mad about Giuffre being recruited away from him.

Lutherf said:
As far as the ultimate falling out between Trump and Epstein, that appears to have happened over a real estate deal that both he and Epstein were competing for.
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No. No. No.

Listen to the audio.

Trump is making it clear that his falling out was about Epstein recruiting "employees" from Trump's place of business.
 
lynnwinslow said:
Lots of resort employ teens but they don't usually work in the spa, which is often requires special training and licensing. But, this was 25 years ago and in FL so who knows ??
And tell me how likely it is that the resort owner knows about the comings and goings individual teen girl employees at his resort? That's hella creepy.
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See post 57.
 
W_Heisenberg said:
We know she was underage at the time because we know the date of her birth. She said she worked at Trump's spa. Trump has now confirmed she worked at Trump's spa.
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17 isn't underage to work.
 
TheDoctorWasIn said:
But we nevertheless know that Virginia Giuffre was underage, when she worked at Mar-a-Lago.

She was born in 1983, and met Epstein at Mar-a-Lago (while she was working there) in 2000.
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17 is not underage to work.
 
Lutherf said:
From a purely pragmatic standpoint it's likely that several people, including Trump, figured Epstein for a bit of a creep around young women but just backed off that whole issue because it's not something you want to accuse someone of without SOLID proof or a direct complaint.
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That is a very good explanation for why Trump would have been mad at Giuffre being recruited away from him.
 
Lutherf said:
I'm going to hazard a guess, and it's just a guess, that this second attempt to recruit someone from the spa was the straw that broke the camel's back with Trump and Trump booted Epstein from the club. Poaching employees is as good a reason as any to get rid of someone that other members probably had an issue with. As far as Trump being generous when talking about Epstein, that's what the guy does. He praises everyone until they piss him off.
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You don't get mad for having an underage, towel-folding, minimum wage employee recruited away from you.

You get mad for having an underage, towel-folding, minimum wage employee recruited away from you to engage in prostitution.
 
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