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Trump digs in on racist tweets: ‘Many people agree with me’

pamak said:
There is no need to mention the names since the description was clear about them. And the next day Trump continued to support his tweet instead of saying that he did not mean to attack the four non-white Congresswomen.
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That's nice, but still does not provide an actual explanation of how the

By the way, I find it interesting that you point that saying "coloured" is inappropriate , but you chose to present yourself as somebody of "Indian descent"
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My great grandparents came from the region of Gondwana, in the country of India (hence the name: as I am also a geologist, it has double meaning), hence I am of Indian descent, genius. :lamo Sounds like a Freudian slip of the mind on your part there, bud, that you leapt to that conclusion there.......
 
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trouble13 said:
Sounds like something that belongs on an editorial page that the AP is trying to pass off as a news article.

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You do realize the AP is one of the least biased, highest factually integrity news sources in America. If you find yourself questioning the AP, then you really should be questioning is just how out of touch you are.

Associated Press - Media Bias/Fact Check

IOW, instead of wasting your energy questioning the AP, read the article and ponder the likelihood they are telling you the truth, as they have a better track record with the truth than........
 
Gondwanaland said:
It can be, sure. What about it?
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So Trump is xenophobic because Omar is from Somalia isn't racist to you? Interesting. If Trump told a black woman to go back to Africa, that isn't racist to you? And it doesn't bother you that the other 3 congresswomen were born in America and yet Trump told them to go back to their countries?
 
pamak said:
Here is another way (demonstration) to explain it to you:

Anybody who thinks that a tweet is racists only when it mentions the specific names of the non-white representatives or the word "race" is an illiterate _________(fill in the blank with an inappropriate word) reader who does not understand context. I hope you will not take anything personally since I never mentioned your name anywhere.
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So that's another who cannot manage to actually explain how the tweets are racist. Gotcha.
 
AProudLefty said:
So Trump is xenophobic because Omar is from Somalia isn't racist to you? Interesting.
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No. Somalia is not a race, nor does telling someone to return to Somalia (after noting how they seem to hate THIS country) necessitate racism.

If Trump told a black woman to go back to Africa, that isn't racist to you?
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Not really, unless he added something else to the statement that would make it racist.

And it doesn't bother you that the other 3 congresswomen were born in America and yet Trump told them to go back to their countries?
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Not particularly. WHy?
 
Gondwanaland said:
So that's another who cannot manage to actually explain how the tweets are racist. Gotcha.
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What an utterly ridiculous comment.

That's as moronic as saying these people aren't racists

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because there's nothing racist about white clothes.

Everybody knows saying "go back where you came from" to brown skinned people is a racist trope.
 
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Gondwanaland said:
No. Somalia is not a race, nor does telling someone to return to Somalia (after noting how they seem to hate THIS country) necessitate racism.

Not really, unless he added something else to the statement that would make it racist.

Not particularly. WHy?
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If a president told the Jewish congresspeople to go back to Israel, the rightists would have an explosive diarrhea and call him anti-Semitie. :)
 
JustHanging said:
What an utterly ridiculous comment.

That's as stupid as saying these people aren't racists

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because there's nothing racist about white clothes.
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But they were racist. Because they pushed and displayed prejudice, animus, discrimination, etc. on people of another race based on the belief that their own race was superior.

You've yet to show how Trump's comments do so, in order to meet the basic definition of the term 'racism'.
 
AProudLefty said:
If a president told the Jewish congresspeople to go back to Israel, the rightists would have an explosive diarrhea and call him anti-Semitie. :)
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That's nice, but I am not a rightist, and indeed I would ask similarly: "how is that anti-Semitic?" to anyone that said it was.

Now, are you capable of actually explaining how Trump's tweets were racist, or are you tossing in the towel like pamak because you can't?
 
Gondwanaland said:
That's nice, but I am not a rightist, and indeed I would ask similarly: "how is that anti-Semitic?" to anyone that said it was.

Now, are you capable of actually explaining how Trump's tweets were racist, or are you tossing in the towel like pamak because you can't?
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Already explained. But at least you got one thing right... it was xenophobic and idiotic. Pretty sure Trump knew people would think his tweets are racist.
 
Manc Skipper said:
It gets him brownie points with his base, while it moves the conversation away from his friendships with pedophiles and sex offenders such as Epstein.
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Brownie points? I see what you did there! :lol:
 
Gondwanaland said:
That's nice, but I am not a rightist, and indeed I would ask similarly: "how is that anti-Semitic?" to anyone that said it was.

Now, are you capable of actually explaining how Trump's tweets were racist, or are you tossing in the towel like pamak because you can't?
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I just spent two days trying to get your debate opponent to explain why his views were correct... I wish you better luck.
 
AProudLefty said:
Already explained. But at least you got one thing right... it was xenophobic and idiotic. Pretty sure Trump knew people would think his tweets are racist.
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Not a single person has managed to explain yet. Declaring it so, is not an explanation.
 
Gondwanaland said:
Not a single person has managed to explain yet. Declaring it so, is not an explanation.
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Not a single person has managed to explain how it is not racist yet. So there's that.
 
AProudLefty said:
Not a single person has managed to explain how it is not racist yet. So there's that.
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What statement, specifically, is the racist statement that you are referring to?
 
MTAtech said:
There is a tendency in thinking Trump is being a cunning evil genius. I just think he is succumbing to his nature and it's getting the best of him.
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It's a bit a Column A and a lot of Column B. Trump thinks he's being a evil genius. His plan is to push the idea that these women are the face of the SOCIALIST Democratic Party, and that these women hate America and are out to destroy THEIR (the white supracists' country). This is meant to energize and motivate his base to get out to vote. But it's a very dangerous game.

First off, Trump falsely assumes that people voted for his anti-immigrant, white grievance policies. They didn't. They voted for jobs for the white productions workers who have been displaced and relegated to minimum wage jobs. They voted for tax relief, and higher wages. They voted for someone to take up their cause and get them a fair shake. Trump promised to end off-shoring, and to bring back to get jobs. He promised to bring back coal. He delivered chaos, dysfunction, and tax cuts for billionaires.

In 2016, he ran against the establishment, and asked people to take a chance on him because he's been so successful and he wants to help them succeed like he has. People bought it, because he plays a rich guy on TV, and they really did not vet him. They didn't look at his history of business failures and bankruptcies, and he kept his taxes hidden. Deutches Banke says his net worth is around $350 million and they've got the best inside information of anyone.

In 2020, Trump won't be the anti-establishment guy asking America to take a chance on him. He'll be the incumbent who has to run on his record of lies, chaos, racism and kidnapping and abusing young children and their families at the border. This week, Elizabeth Warren promised a townhall meeting that her first act as President will be to commission an investigation and to prosecute all those people who participated in the abuse of immigrants at the border - and she got a standing ovation.

And doubling down on white supremacist policies is just a gift to Democrats. Not to mention, non-whites didn't vote in 2016. Voter turn-out was the lowest in recent history. Blacks, especially, stayed home. Trump said "What do you have to lose", and they stayed home. All that changed in 2018. All the people who stayed home came out and voted - for the Democrats. They found out exactly what they had to lose - all of the equality they had fought for since the 1960's and before. Roy Moore lost in Alabama because all of the blacks who stayed home in 2016 came out and voted against him.

Trump attacking women is turning off women voters, just as much as his ***** grabbing, and his hiring of misogynists, wife beaters, people who have settled multiple sexual harassment claims has alienated suburban soccer moms who voted Republican in 2016. There are 8 million more women voters than men. And they're not voting for the criminal, ***** grabbing, racist pig.
 
Bodhisattva said:
What statement, specifically, is the racist statement that you are referring to?
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Telling people of color to go back to where they came from has been considered racist for a long time. I don't recall anyone telling white people to go back to where they came from.
 
AProudLefty said:
Not a single person has managed to explain how it is not racist yet. So there's that.
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We're not required to. You're the ones making the claims, the onus and burden of proof is on you to explain your claims and the logic behind them.
 
AProudLefty said:
And the burden is met.
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Not even remotely. You nor your lefty brethren, have been able to put together a coherent explanation as to how the tweets are racist. All you guys have done is just declare it over and over and then act as if what you say must be true, without evidence or explanation.
 
AProudLefty said:
Telling people of color to go back to where they came from has been considered racist for a long time. I don't recall anyone telling white people to go back to where they came from.
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Again, what statement, specifically, is the racist statement that you are referring to?
 
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