Trump administration now says entire Affordable Care Act should be struck down

[AlbqOwl]

You and the Party of No have no solutions for making our healthcare system better and more affordable. So please get out of the way and let people who actually know what they're doing get the job done.

If you were paying attention, you would have heard of a LOT of intentions the President and GOP want to do with healthcare. Of course most doesn't include a lot of freebies and dishonest promises that will not ever turn out as advertised as those, especially President Obama, made to sell the Obamacare boondoggle. And it will almost certainly involve re-privatizing much of the healthcare system. And that means the leftist sheeple will dutifully recite the same old assigned talking points that President Trump and/or the GOP are taking healthcare away from whomever.

 

[Born Free]

:lamo

Washington Monthly | Obama’s Top 50 Accomplishments, Revisited

Passed Health Care Reform, Obamacare a complete failure, you can keep your Dr you can keep your ...............................
Rescued the Economy, Obama borrowed 10 trillion and doubled the nation debt and all we got to show for it was the worst economic recovery in US History
Passed Wall Street Reform, Another Obama failure that Trump deleted.
Negotiated a Deal to Block A Nuclear Iran, The deal so much a failure it not even funny, in the deal there is no inspection anytime anywhere and no one can enter a Iran military base. Obama flies in the middle of the night billions of case to Iran so that Iran could fund it's terrorist groups with untraceable cash.
Secured U.S. Commitment to a Global Agreement on Climate Change, A total failure that the US was pouring money into for no return.
Eliminated Osama bin Laden I give him that one
Ended U.S. Combat Missions in Iraq and Afghanistan A total lie, Obama never pulled out of Afghanistan and he did pull out of Iraq but was forced to go back in because of the ISIS JV team was taking over Iraq that Obama could not get rid of.
Turned Around the U.S. Auto Industry Another lie, Obama lost 11.2 billion of taxpayer money on the loss of GM. GM should have been left to fail but Obama had to use taxpayer money to bail out the unions.
Repealed “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’’ WOW that's a big one, that meant nothing
Supported Federal Recognition of Same-Sex Marriages WOW another big one, who does not support "same-sex marriage"
Reversed Bush Torture Policies That was already on it's way out.
Established Rules to Limit Carbon Emissions from Power Plants More killing of our economy, he also was going to shut down all the coal plants
Normalized Relations with Cuba. Another lie, Christ Cuba is one a Venezuela best alie. Cuba is a communist country, of course Obama supports communism
Put Medicare on Sounder Financial Footing Yeah that is where some of the 10 trillion went, more freebies
Protected DREAMers from Deportation And now the liberals could care less about the Dreamers, you want an open border.
Protected Two Liberal Seats on the U.S. Supreme Court Trump did the same thing and may appoint another one.
Kicked Banks Out of Federal Student Loan Program, Expanded Pell Grant Funding Total failure, the US Gov is not in debt on students loans by over 2 Trillon
Improved America’s Image Abroad Problem is Obama did nothing with NK, he did nothing with China, he did nothing with NAFTA, he did nothing with making NATO pay their fare share per the NATO's agreement that calls for 2% of their GDP. Obama did noting to them to pay, Obama paid for everything.

I could go on and on but Obama has no accomplishments. Period. Whoever made that list is as far a leftist nut job you could find.

Obama will be able to hang his biggest accomplishment on one huge wall, Obamacare that he lied 36 times selling Obamacare to the public that you can keep your Dr, you can keep your insurance and you will save over $2,000 per family per yr on your insurance. And he had a mandatory tax if you did not have insurance.

 

[Greenbeard]

If you were paying attention, you would have heard of a LOT of intentions the President and GOP want to do with healthcare. Of course most doesn't include a lot of freebies and dishonest promises that will not ever turn out as advertised as those, especially President Obama, made to sell the Obamacare boondoggle. And it will almost certainly involve re-privatizing much of the healthcare system.

 

[Oborosen]

I hope the GOP makes health care a campaign issue. They lose on health care every time

Everyone loses on health care.

 

[3leftsdoo]

People who want to destroy Obamacare never have a sensible answer for what to replace it with.

Single payer/Medicare for all/socialized medicine.

Like every other comparable nation on the planet.

 

[3leftsdoo]

Keeping people insured with insurance they can't afford to use or have to go to the emergency room instead of an unavailable doctor anyway is bad no matter how many people you include in that equation.

I can't understand why you support that.

You get it.

Many don't.

The ACA is a disaster written BY Big Healthcare FOR Big Healthcare.

 

[3leftsdoo]

Somewhat off topic but I think an interesting observation of mine over the years of my talking about government healthcare with opponents.

I have noticed that often the most gang-ho opponents of government provided healthcare are people who are relying on government healthcare. It is ironic to see many elders or military professionals or veterans expressing the strongest objections against government provided healthcare for OTHER demographic groups...

I've observed this as well.

It's shameful.

 

[Nickyjo]

You get it.

Many don't.

The ACA is a disaster written BY Big Healthcare FOR Big Healthcare.

The way I view it, the ACA was the best the democrats could get given politics and the power of the insurance industry. They couldn’t even get a public option into it. It accomplished two major things: it got the notion of government healthcare for those uncovered by the VA, Medicare and Medicaid into the public debate, and it moved the needle for republicans. The very fact that the GOP mantra was repeal and REPLACE, that Trump claims he will replace it with something Trumpian is tribute to Obama’s contribution. The GOP position was “The US. has the best health care in the world,” meaning nothing needed to be done, except maybe health savings accounts. That’s changed. Hardly a disaster. 20 million moreinsured. Thanks Barak.

 

[Greenbeard]

You get it.

Many don't.

The ACA is a disaster written BY Big Healthcare FOR Big Healthcare.

A 'disaster' that covered 20 million more people, saved a lot of lives, put health care cost growth on a more sustainable footing, and improved the quality of care.

 

[Phys251]

If you were paying attention, you would have heard of a LOT of intentions the President and GOP want to do with healthcare.

"Repeal and replace." Replace with what? They never made that part clear. All they wanted to do was throw millions of people off of affordable healthcare.

 

[Phys251]

Single payer/Medicare for all/socialized medicine.

Like every other comparable nation on the planet.

Why don't France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Portugal, etc. all share the same healthcare system?

 

[AlbqOwl]

"Repeal and replace." Replace with what? They never made that part clear. All they wanted to do was throw millions of people off of affordable healthcare.

When you put out a fire, what do you replace it with? Obamacare does so much more harm than it does good. The President and the GOP have already promised to take those with preexisting conditions into consideration in any repeal. The Graham Cassidy bill is still out there as well as many other needed and good reforms and the President is on record in what needs to happen. But government control over all healthcare is not on the table, nor is forcing people to buy a product they do not want.

The Democrat argument that if the government doesn't force people to buy insurance the taxpayer has to provide it for them is absolutely ludicrous when the government subsidizes the insurance they can't afford and then made a system so expensive millions WITH insurance can't afford to use it. The urgent care centers and emergency rooms are far more crowded than they ever were before Obamacare and those who can't pay are still being treated just as they were before.

 

[Phys251]

When you put out a fire, what do you replace it with?

When will you stop beating your husband? /s

 

[AlbqOwl]

When will you stop beating your husband? /s

I'm not beating anybody. You, however, have been in lieu of defending your own position.

 

[Moderate Right]

Trump administration now says entire Affordable Care Act should be struck down - CNNPolitics

The Trump administration on Monday said the entire Affordable Care Act should be struck down, in a dramatic reversal.

In a filing with a federal appeals court, the Justice Department said it agreed with the ruling of a federal judge in Texas that invalidated the Obama-era health care law.
In a letter Monday night, the administration said "it is not urging that any portion of the district court's judgment be reversed."

"The Department of Justice has determined that the district court's comprehensive opinion came to the correct conclusion and will support it on appeal," said Kerri Kupec, spokesperson for the Justice Department.
It's a major shift for the Justice Department from when Jeff Sessions was attorney general. At the time, the administration argued that the community rating rule and the guaranteed issue requirement -- protections for people with pre-existing conditions -- could not be defended but the rest of the law could stand.

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Trump’s Justice Department notified a federal appeals court in New Orleans late Monday it would asking judges to toss out the entire ACA which is going to put healthcare for millions of Americans in jeopardy. Previous Republican attempts to repeal Obamacare triggered a backlash that propelled Democrats back into the majority of the House in the last election. Months ago, when people were polled about what their main concerns are, health care was their number one concern. Undoing everything Barack Obama did was Trump's first objective. Now that the Mueller investigation is over, he can now focus on repealing Obamacare. What's next, rollbacks in Medicare?

This stuff wouldn't be happening if Democrats had pushed through a bipartisan plan in the first place. Their arrogance that they would never lose power is what doomed Obamacare.

 

[HumblePi]

This stuff wouldn't be happening if Democrats had pushed through a bipartisan plan in the first place. Their arrogance that they would never lose power is what doomed Obamacare.

Here's something to keep in mind. The House Voted to Repeal Obamacare More Than 50 Times. By March 2014 they had already voted on it 54 times, including measures to undo, update to change it. Republicans took control of the House in 2011, and on January 19 of that year they voted on, and passed, a measure to repeal all of the Affordable Care Act. In 2017, Republicans controlled the House, the Senate and the White House. But Speaker Paul Ryan decided to pull the plug on a Republican bill after House Republicans couldn't unite behind the plan and the measure was doomed to fail.

So what do you have republicans? What's the new plan you have to replace the ACA with something 'much better' and won't take away coverage for people with pre-existing conditions? WHERE IS IT?

 

[Moderate Right]

Here's something to keep in mind. The House Voted to Repeal Obamacare More Than 50 Times. By March 2014 they had already voted on it 54 times, including measures to undo, update to change it. Republicans took control of the House in 2011, and on January 19 of that year they voted on, and passed, a measure to repeal all of the Affordable Care Act. In 2017, Republicans controlled the House, the Senate and the White House. But Speaker Paul Ryan decided to pull the plug on a Republican bill after House Republicans couldn't unite behind the plan and the measure was doomed to fail.

So what do you have republicans? What's the new plan you have to replace the ACA with something 'much better' and won't take away coverage for people with pre-existing conditions? WHERE IS IT?

Did you not read my post? I said Democrats and Republicans should have passed something together so that it would survive because it would be bipartisan. When you pass a purely partisan plan then don't expect it to survive if the other party comes back into power.

 

[Phys251]

I'm not beating anybody. You, however, have been in lieu of defending your own position.

Your failed attempt at projection does not mask the fact that your side of the aisle has no feasible replacement for Obamacare.

 

[Greenbeard]

Did you not read my post? I said Democrats and Republicans should have passed something together so that it would survive because it would be bipartisan. When you pass a purely partisan plan then don't expect it to survive if the other party comes back into power.

In May 2009 the GOP came out with a health plan based on exchanges, federal tax credits, and benefit floors. In June 2009 so did the Dems and the GOP decried that approach as socialism.

Hard to "come together" with nihilists like modern GOPers.