Thousands of new cases of coronavirus in US

[Slartibartfast]

Yes, the arts, solar energy and of course union leadership. You have no idea what you are talking about. True loyalty to a failed ideology, hope you are getting paid well to post all this liberal bs

:lol:

 

[RAMOSS]

We also have not tested very much in red states. Here in gool ol' Texas, we've barely tested, but it's for sure spreading everywhere. It's even gotten up to my college's county.

Colleges are hotbeds of social activity, and very vulnerable to passing on something like this. What worries me is when someone gives it to their grandparents.

 

[marke]

Lack of proper assistance and support from the federal government. This is primarily a federal responsibility.

It does look like democrat governors think they cannot do a thing without Trump's help and direction.

 

[Slartibartfast]

It does look like democrat governors think they cannot do a thing without Trump's help and direction.

They are doing what they can in the situation as responsible leaders do. This is also true of republican governors who are wise enough to fully respond like DeWine. But the situation could be much better with full federal support and coordination.

 

[marke]

"Only" 1% of the infected dying would mean 3.5 million deaths if every American got Covid 19 and if only half got it that is still 1.75 million dead. How many need to be threatened with death before we "panic"?

Why is it that more did not get infected in China or Italy? Did they successfully stop the virus cold in its tracks by trashing their economies?

 

[Hamish Howl]

It does look like democrat governors think they cannot do a thing without Trump's help and direction.

It's kind of why we have a federal government in the first place.

So if that's not happening, if my state has to "compete" with 49 other states for necessary equipment, then you other states aren't much good to us, are you? Responding to the federal government is also not profitable. Perhaps it's time to revisit the concept of the union as a whole.

 

[marke]

So saying that the virus would go away like a miracle, not mobilizing the proper agencies in January and then saying he had no responsibility means he did a great job?

If the US failed to move quickly enough then are you suggesting we should blame the federal government, state governments and whoever or whatever forces kept those responsible from getting going sooner for their failure to listen to the American people? Or did the American people not even care until it was too late, if it was too late?

 

[marke]

Thank you for your bias, however, would you like to actually contribute to the conversation or just pontificate?

Don't like facts which expose your unjustifiable hatred and bias toward our elected President?

 

[Slartibartfast]

Don't like facts which expose your unjustifiable hatred and bias toward our elected President?

all you have done is ranted so far, please let me know when these facts of yours make an appearance.

 

[marke]

They are doing what they can in the situation as responsible leaders do. This is also true of republican governors who are wise enough to fully respond like DeWine. But the situation could be much better with full federal support and coordination.

So you think some government officials did a good job and others did a poor job, or do you think all government officials could both be commended for their good responses and criticized for their missteps, misapprehensions or misjudgments in the matter?

 

[Hamish Howl]

So you think some government officials did a good job and others did a poor job, or do you think all government officials could both be commended for their good responses and criticized for their missteps, misapprehensions or misjudgments in the matter?

Dewine was absolutely correct, and had the moral courage to act.

Trump is a pathetic failure.

 

[marke]

It's kind of why we have a federal government in the first place.

So if that's not happening, if my state has to "compete" with 49 other states for necessary equipment, then you other states aren't much good to us, are you? Responding to the federal government is also not profitable. Perhaps it's time to revisit the concept of the union as a whole.

I believe our government leaders and officials all do the best they can and Americans should be slow to blame so many of them for supposed failures which only their enemies think they see due to their obvious bias. Did Trump fail miserably? He did, but only according to the biased democrat partisans who have been trying to get him removed from office for 3 years. Don't even listen to those hateful morons. Their accusations are based on blind hatred and ignorance and not truth and righteousness.

 

[Hamish Howl]

I believe our government leaders and officials all do the best they can and Americans should be slow to blame so many of them for supposed failures which only their enemies think they see due to their obvious bias. Did Trump fail miserably? He did, but only according to the biased democrat partisans who have been trying to get him removed from office for 3 years. Don't even listen to those hateful morons. Their accusations are based on blind hatred and ignorance and not truth and righteousness.

I think you should come and collect up the stuff at Davis Monthan and Luke AFBs, and get the hell out. Pretty sure you and your stable genius are useless to us.

 

[Slartibartfast]

So you think some government officials did a good job and others did a poor job, or do you think all government officials could both be commended for their good responses and criticized for their missteps, misapprehensions or misjudgments in the matter?

Some did a good job, some did a fair job, some did a poor job

they are all human

But yes, I would agree, probably at least anyone we could think of did at least one thing right and at least one thing wrong.

 

[snakestretcher]

The numbers also show that over 40% of the cases in this country are in the liberal state of NY with 67,000 reported. Why is it that the liberal states of NY, NJ, Washington, California lead the nation and are the first to blame the President for his reaction to divert from their own? It is interesting how big gov't liberals looking for a massive central gov't ignore the state and local responsibilities being handled in the bluest states in the nation. Placing blame is the hallmark of the liberal ideology never accepting responsibility

How about you leave your political obsession out of this? As for "placing blame", isn't that what you just did?

 

[snakestretcher]

Don't like facts which expose your unjustifiable hatred and bias toward our elected President?

Unjustifiable hatred? Tell me what there is to like in a thief, fraudster, serial liar who lied brazenly to potential voters, and who is hopelessly out of his depth as a 'leader'?

 

[marke]

Dewine was absolutely correct, and had the moral courage to act.

Trump is a pathetic failure.

All desperate deluded democrats hate Trump for getting elected instead of Hillary. Hillary carried the torch for the democrats. Trump represents an enemy combatant to them, sadly, in the US where democrats no longer tolerate republicans in power and authority.

 

[marke]

I think you should come and collect up the stuff at Davis Monthan and Luke AFBs, and get the hell out. Pretty sure you and your stable genius are useless to us.

"Useless" is your word. "Deplorable" is Hillary's word. I understand the way modern socialist democrats hate conservative republicans worse than KKK democrats hated blacks a hundred years ago.

 

[marke]

Unjustifiable hatred? Tell me what there is to like in a thief, fraudster, serial liar who lied brazenly to potential voters, and who is hopelessly out of his depth as a 'leader'?

Maybe you do understand why I hate so many democrat politicians.

 

[snakestretcher]

Maybe you do understand why I hate so many democrat politicians.

Who among the Democrat party has been doing this theft, committing fraud and constantly lying? Names please, or I'll just assume your hatred is one of 'principle', irrespective of the reality. The reality, in case it eluded you, is that Trump is all of the above, and more. And yet you think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Why?

 

[cabse5]

FYI, not all is smooth on the testing front.

Many states are running out of supplies to run tests, right down to the swabs used to collect the samples.

COVID-19 Testing Hits Second Wall: Lack of Supplies

Keep on with your fear tactics.

 

[cabse5]

You said, "social distancing of any kind doesn't protect anyone from coronavirus exposure." It's a different argument that quarantines work better, which is the new claim.

It's just common sense (which pandemic scientists don't have). Any type of social distancing whether it be the most stringent shutter-in-place, lockdown social distancing still doesn't remove those most at risk from the contagion. One reason is no one knows how to prevent the spread of the contagion. Social distancing just reduces the odds of being contaminated, doesn't prevent the spread of the contagion and also makes the crisis longer.

A quarantine if done properly, removes those most at risk to coronavirus.

I guess you can do things half-assed (politically, IMO) or do them correctly?

 

[cabse5]

"There are no models, so I'm gonna make stuff up, even though I don't understand how viruses work at all." :roll:

No, dude, there are multiple models. Here's one of the more optimistic ones:
COVID-19

Social distancing doesn't prevent the spread of the contagion. Please, do you believe scientists know how the contagion is spread?:lamo Social distancing lowers the chance of infection but doesn't remove the chance of infection (and also artificially lengthens the pandemic crisis).

Analogy: Would you rather remove some of the bullets in the chamber of the gun (social distancing) or would you rather remove the gun entirely (quarantining, if done properly)? cabse5 04/01/20

 

[cabse5]

You said, "social distancing of any kind doesn't protect anyone from coronavirus exposure." It's a different argument that quarantines work better, which is the new claim.

You could just read my signature.

 

[JasperL]

It's just common sense (which pandemic scientists don't have). Any type of social distancing whether it be the most stringent shutter-in-place, lockdown social distancing still doesn't remove those most at risk from the contagion. One reason is no one knows how to prevent the spread of the contagion. Social distancing just reduces the odds of being contaminated, doesn't prevent the spread of the contagion and also makes the crisis longer.

A quarantine if done properly, removes those most at risk to coronavirus.

I guess you can do things half-assed (politically, IMO) or do them correctly?

I've never figured out how to do a "quarantine" "properly" for perhaps 80 million Americans....

And, yes, your gut is just as informed as people who have dealt with pandemics on the ground, and spent a career studying them. Expertise is for losers.