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This Nov vote wisely, not for gun grabbers like Bloomberg.

Thing is, Americans don't tend to be one issue voters, at least not the smart voters. When one considers that the same people that would support our 2nd A rights would also kill off ACA, cut Medicare, cut SS, keep us in the ME for more decades, deny global warming or address it, and will continue to give tax cuts to the rich while adding Trillions to the defict the issue on who to vote for becomes more complicated.
 
I don't deny that people are also the problem. There is a plethora of issues but if you remove the gun then the damage caused or inclination to cause damage is either much less or not there. The principle cannot be denied Australia, UK, India, Japan, NZ, Italy among many other countries have effectively applied and seen the success of this principle.
YOu just did in your first post you said there was a gun problem. It isn't a gun problem. the gun is the scapegoat to the real issue.

Once again people like you either blame others and/or make excuses and/or deny facts. In this case you have blamed others or other things and denied facts.

No unlike you who blame inanimate objects i put the blame squarely where it belongs on people. that is the fact that you gun banners can't deal with.
Guess what here is some facts for you. the US military has storage rooms full of full automatic weapons. not one time has one just shot someone.
No i am blaming the people that are committing these crimes. that is a fact. you are blaming an inanimate object.

What do you think needs to be done to limit the 32% rise in gun deaths in the past 20 years?

Most gun deaths are suicide according to the FBI and CDC. in fact over 50% of shootings are suicide.
The reason that there has been a rise? because people in general have gone stupid. The woke generation
are the biggest bunch of mental wimps i have ever seen. They cannot handle real world issues and like leftist
they blame all of their problems on other people.

however instead of going and talking to someone and someone telling them to just get over it they go get
a gun and shoot someone.

Never said they did; you made that assumption about my opinion. What is clear is you simply don't like the facts. The generational firearm owning and 'worshipping' is part of the problem. Its become this privileged, obsessive and unhealthy gun culture. You only have to look at the facts, whereby there are 120.4 guns per 100 people. The US makes up only around 6% of the worlds population yet owns 46% of the worlds civilian guns.

Your the one that said we have a gun problem i proved you wrong. we do not have a gun problem we have a people problem. they are two very separate things and
2 very different ways to handle it. Actually it isn't because what you described simply doesn't exist. There is not such thing as a firearm "worshiping" generation.
Owning a gun is not a privilege it is a right see the 2nd amendment. and 99% of those people are law abiding citizens that do nothing but collect or treat their guns properly.
you are looking at the 1% of people who don't and say there is an issue.

the other major factor that you left out in gun shootings is that most shootings are drug or criminal related.

interestingly countries or groups or even people who have this obsessive and unhealthy relationship with something do one thing......they deny it.
yes you have a very unhealthy attitude towards guns. everything that you spouted has been debunked time and time again, but
as we all know you can't educate leftist on anything.

I do not deny at all we have a people problem, and that these people do stupid things.
 
From the precedent trump started, the next dem president is going to declare a state of emergency after another massacre and make taking your gun out of your house a jailable offense. You want a hundred guns? Fine, keep them in your house.

What goes around comes around. Deal with it.

sorry but there is a thing that is called a constitution.
that stops that from happening and redirecting funds is in no way close
to violating the 2,4, 5, 6 and 14th amendment.

so good luck on that one.
 
To everyone that will vote in Nov, read up on a little history of the 20th Century. If you do, you will find you will not vote for gun grabbers like Bloomberg or anyone of his ilk.

20th Century history will reveal that Bloomberg is in lock step thinking with Stalin, Hitler, and Mao. When they came into power they grabbed all of their people's guns, promising a big government utopia. However----------------in that 20th history I suggest you read, you will find out that after the three of them took all the guns from the people, it resulted in the deaths of approx 100 MILLION PEOPLE.

The absolute fact remains-------------people with guns are voting citizens, people with out guns are sheep and slaves of big government!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Further gun grabbers and socialism seen to be in lock step. Just look how gun grabbing worked out for the people of Russia, Germany, and China.

Vote wisely.

I do know one thing, Native Texans voted more For the Gun Grabber Beto than they did for the non gun grabber Cruz

Oh.... my....
 
I do know one thing, Native Texans voted more For the Gun Grabber Beto than they did for the non gun grabber Cruz

Oh.... my....

well there is no doubt that people's stupidity at this time in history may well cost ALL of us our freedoms. I mean seriously Gun grabbing aside, I have never heard a more idiotic campaign than Beto's, pandering to EVERY possible political rabbit hole out there.
 
well there is no doubt that people's stupidity at this time in history may well cost ALL of us our freedoms. I mean seriously Gun grabbing aside, I have never heard a more idiotic campaign than Beto's, pandering to EVERY possible political rabbit hole out there.

Yes, and he came within 2. something points of defeating Cruz

This folks is Texas
 
I will dumb that last sentence down for you to ensure you can understand the point I am making, as you seek to embark on personal attacks against peoples type of communication.

'Not gun grabbers just people trying to limit gun deaths and injuries, the economic and financial cost as well as the increasingly concerning, privileged and unhealthy gun culture'

1. Gun Grabbers - Terminology you used in your previous answer, so I am not sure how you didn't understand this. This is referring to those who want greater gun control within the USA.

2. 'People trying to limit gun deaths and injuries'- By reference to people I mean those seeking greater gun control to limit the number of deaths and injuries. There has been a 32% rise in gun deaths since 1999 with the total deaths being 43,000 in 2019. Gun injuries stand at 72,000. Gun casualties stands at over 100,000.

3. 'People trying to limit the economic and financial cost'- The costs associated with lost income represents the biggest cost to the economy, employer costs, police and criminal justice responses and health care treatment among others total to around $229 billion.

4. 'People trying to limit the increasingly concerning, privileged and unhealthy gun culture'- There are 120.4 guns per 100 people, meaning the US is the only country to have more guns than people. Interestingly (and quite disgracefully) the country 2nd by most guns per capita has only 60 guns per 100 people. So the US has more guns than countries like Iraq, Iran, Syria, Afghanistan etc.. countries in war, political turmoil and experiencing terrorist groups. I mean come on.....

So what you meant is.... "Not just gun grabbers but also the people who are trying to limit gun deaths, injuries, economic and financial costs, and the increasingly concerning privileged and unhealthy gun culture."

If I seek to embark on a personal attack I would say something like "morons can't write in complete or coherent sentences"... I didn't say that.

I said your sentence wasn't complete making it near impossible to understand. Taking four paragraphs to explain what you meant proves it. After your explanation I fixed it with one complete sentence.

Watch and learn.
 
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