"This nation is at the mercy of a criminal administration" --Max Boot

[OscarLevant]

I agree the extremely illegal and unconstitutional power grabbing by federal agencies - particularly in the intelligence, law enforcement and criminal justice agencies - even a few in the military - go beyond just being gangsters, but traitors pursuing their own personal goals and power regardless of how improper, traitorous or illegal.

Hopefully, our new Attorney General can minimally at least run them out of government where prosecution would be too difficult or pointless. For example, grotesquely breaking agency rules and policies is grounds for termination, but not grounds for prosecution. Just like in the private sector, even gross misconduct by employees warranting being fired doesn't mean they did anything that can be prosecuted.

The article is an indictment on the AG, and the administration.

 

[OscarLevant]

Max Boot is not now nor has he every been a conservative. He is a shill, a wolf in sheep's clothing. a deep state insider, and a never Trumper. His resume' leaves no question of it.

This thread adds NOTHING new to the topic - which of actually is out-of-control Trump Derangement Syndrome for which each progressive is duty bound to repeat anything the corporate super rich and government insider power brokers tell them to repeat.

CT bull****.

 

[OscarLevant]

"he couldn't conclude no crime was committed"

A prosecutor never has the job of "concluding that no crime was committed". That means that statement is nonsense.

My statement is fact.

BS. He isn't prosecuting, he's leaving it up to Congress. You're confused.

 

[AmNat]

I find it interesting that conservative Max Boot and liberal Noam Chomsky agree

It's more interesting how the left will heap praises on the worst people in Washington, neocons, because Orange Man Bad.

 

[Mycroft]

BS. He isn't prosecuting, he's leaving it up to Congress. You're confused.

Nonsense.

Mueller didn't "leave it up to Congress". He deliberately and purposely gave Congress unproven "evidence" for them to use as ammunition in their attacks against the President. Mueller's entire report is riddled with unproven allegations. That means Mueller is complicit in the attempts to oust a sitting President.

 

[Mycroft]

...if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. --- The Mueller Report

It's not Mueller's place to determine that the President "did not" do anything. That wasn't his job.

The Report is a manual for prosecution/impeachment, it's as plain as day.

this has been established over and over again, yet you guys repeat the same lie over and over again.

Yes. That is exactly what his report is. The problem is...that wasn't his job. That wasn't what the taxpayers were paying him to do. He wasn't (supposedly) hired to provide political ammunition to Congress. He was hired to establish whether crimes had been committed. He was unable to do so.

 

[OscarLevant]

It's more interesting how the left will heap praises on the worst people in Washington, neocons, because Orange Man Bad.

While "we hire only the very best people" child-abuser-in-chief Donald Trump hires slews of people who wind up in jail.


Yeah, right.

You guys put a moron in the presidency, not us.

 

[OscarLevant]

Nonsense.

Mueller didn't "leave it up to Congress". He deliberately and purposely gave Congress unproven "evidence" for them to use as ammunition in their attacks against the President. Mueller's entire report is riddled with unproven allegations. That means Mueller is complicit in the attempts to oust a sitting President.

Fail.

 

[AmNat]

While "we hire only the very best people" child-abuser-in-chief Donald Trump hires slews of people who wind up in jail.

There was a time when liberals were against the idea that law enforcement should be weaponized against one or the other political party. Obviously those days are long gone.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Max Boot is an actual conservative...

He's not really.
He's a neocon.

 

[TrueScotsman]

He's not really.
He's a neocon.

Neo-CONSERVATIVE. You do know that there is diversity in your tradition? There are Paleoconservatives, Liberal Conservatives, Neoconservatives, Post Modern Conservatives, and that's just within the Anglo-American tradition.

The fact that they accept Globalization to some degree does not make them Leftist, there is plenty of support for Free Trade in the Liberal Conservative branch which Neocons come from.

You do realize that the Republican party, which is the Conservative option in American politics, elected three times a Neocon? In which all kinds of Conservative policies that the Left hated, were passed. Yes, they differ from Trump but I wouldn't say that Trump is even a Conservative at all. He has Protectionism in common with Alexander Hamilton, but that is uncommon to the Liberal Conservative tradition which believes in free trade. He is just a Right Wing Populist with no ideological consistency, just a formula to appeal to the worst in the Right.

Neocons have their major sins, in believing they could construct a NWO with nation building in strategic areas. Bush Sr. was under the delusion that there was some kind of purpose or destiny at hand with American leadership after the fall of the Soviet Union. I think most Neocons have awoken to the fact that such an approach does not work, yet they certainly don't think we should shrink into ourselves.

 

[TrueScotsman]

There was a time when liberals were against the idea that law enforcement should be weaponized against one or the other political party. Obviously those days are long gone.

Weaponize? Republicans control the DOJ genius. No one is above the law, but that doesn't stop the GOP DOJ from going out of their way to obfuscate and go after Democrats after it was found everyone around Trump is a criminal with ties to Russia.

How terrible of Liberals to weaponize the conservative Republicans Mueller and Rosenstein to launch an investigation that uncovered all this criminality. You folks are so deluded though that you are now dangerous, you think the investigation is a Deep State sham, so what is to stop you from attempting the same.

 

[snakestretcher]

Max Boot is not now nor has he every been a conservative. He is a shill, a wolf in sheep's clothing. a deep state insider, and a never Trumper. His resume' leaves no question of it.

This thread adds NOTHING new to the topic - which of actually is out-of-control Trump Derangement Syndrome for which each progressive is duty bound to repeat anything the corporate super rich and government insider power brokers tell them to repeat.

No, he is a man with something called 'principles'. Trump has none and anyone with a functioning brain recognises that-except, of course, his devoted fans who consider ANY legitimate criticism of His Serene Omnipotence as 'TDS'. That would include you. "Deep state"? Have a word with yourself.

 

[OscarLevant]

There was a time when liberals were against the idea that law enforcement should be weaponized against one or the other political party. Obviously those days are long gone.

There's a difference between "putting your opponents in jail" on trumped up charges because you don't like that person ( such as the "lock her up" chants, which were really over the top and smacks of banana-republic-ism) and indicting people for real crimes where jail is the appropriate venue for such persons.

But, that detail you are oblivious too, notwithstanding the fact that people went to jail under Clinton, Reagan, Nixon, and now Trump, notwithstanding the fact that the persons indicting (or referring cases for indictment ) the president's men were republicans.

Given that, your point is inaccurate.

 

[AmNat]

He's not really.
He's a neocon.

Neo-CONSERVATIVE.

A Trotskyite by any other name is just as terrible.

 

[joko104]

No, he is a man with something called 'principles'. Trump has none and anyone with a functioning brain recognises that-except, of course, his devoted fans who consider ANY legitimate criticism of His Serene Omnipotence as 'TDS'. That would include you. "Deep state"? Have a word with yourself.

So you agree with him on issues, correct? Or not?

 

[Grandpappy]

Neo-CONSERVATIVE. You do know that there is diversity in your tradition? There are Paleoconservatives, Liberal Conservatives, Neoconservatives, Post Modern Conservatives, and that's just within the Anglo-American tradition.

The fact that they accept Globalization to some degree does not make them Leftist, there is plenty of support for Free Trade in the Liberal Conservative branch which Neocons come from.

You do realize that the Republican party, which is the Conservative option in American politics, elected three times a Neocon? In which all kinds of Conservative policies that the Left hated, were passed. Yes, they differ from Trump but I wouldn't say that Trump is even a Conservative at all. He has Protectionism in common with Alexander Hamilton, but that is uncommon to the Liberal Conservative tradition which believes in free trade. He is just a Right Wing Populist with no ideological consistency, just a formula to appeal to the worst in the Right.

Neocons have their major sins, in believing they could construct a NWO with nation building in strategic areas. Bush Sr. was under the delusion that there was some kind of purpose or destiny at hand with American leadership after the fall of the Soviet Union. I think most Neocons have awoken to the fact that such an approach does not work, yet they certainly don't think we should shrink into ourselves.

Do you think Trump will be the last and only Populist president of the 21st century? Look at what's happening in Europe and Australia. The movement isn't going away anytime soon.

 

[ataraxia]

It's not Mueller's place to determine... He wasn't (supposedly) hired to provide political ammunition to Congress. He was hired to establish whether crimes had been committed. He was unable to do so.

“If we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so.”
-Robert Mueller

Fortunately, now that he is going to be testifying publicly in congress, this will be cleared up a little more.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Neo-CONSERVATIVE. You do know that there is diversity in your tradition? There are Paleoconservatives, Liberal Conservatives, Neoconservatives, Post Modern Conservatives, and that's just within the Anglo-American tradition.

The fact that they accept Globalization to some degree does not make them Leftist, there is plenty of support for Free Trade in the Liberal Conservative branch which Neocons come from.

You do realize that the Republican party, which is the Conservative option in American politics, elected three times a Neocon? In which all kinds of Conservative policies that the Left hated, were passed. Yes, they differ from Trump but I wouldn't say that Trump is even a Conservative at all. He has Protectionism in common with Alexander Hamilton, but that is uncommon to the Liberal Conservative tradition which believes in free trade. He is just a Right Wing Populist with no ideological consistency, just a formula to appeal to the worst in the Right.

Neocons have their major sins, in believing they could construct a NWO with nation building in strategic areas. Bush Sr. was under the delusion that there was some kind of purpose or destiny at hand with American leadership after the fall of the Soviet Union. I think most Neocons have awoken to the fact that such an approach does not work, yet they certainly don't think we should shrink into ourselves.

Thanks for the recap.

Did you know that North Korea is a democracy?
It's the DEMOCRATIC People's Republic of Korea

 

[TrueScotsman]

A Trotskyite by any other name is just as terrible.

I doubt you've seriously studied Neocons. Have you read Leo Strauss and have you read some of the major influences?

 

[TrueScotsman]

Thanks for the recap.

Did you know that North Korea is a democracy?
It's the DEMOCRATIC People's Republic of Korea

Lazy refutation, I actually provided a more conplete analysis of the Conservative movement. To fully unpack Neocons, I would have to teach you 20th Century philosophy. You clearly don't understand it, and hold this ideological purity about conservatism which is unwarranted. Neocons have been a significant influence in the Republican party since Nixon, to say they are not on the Right is far more revisionist a viewpoint.

 

[TrueScotsman]

Do you think Trump will be the last and only Populist president of the 21st century? Look at what's happening in Europe and Australia. The movement isn't going away anytime soon.

Where did I say it is going away? I merely was saying that he isn't a conservative. It probably will overtake conservatism, as usually happens in critical times in history.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Lazy refutation, I actually provided a more conplete analysis of the Conservative movement. To fully unpack Neocons, I would have to teach you 20th Century philosophy. You clearly don't understand it, and hold this ideological purity about conservatism which is unwarranted. Neocons have been a significant influence in the Republican party since Nixon, to say they are not on the Right is far more revisionist a viewpoint.

Didn't say they weren't right-wing.
They're definitely authoritarian.
Didn't say they have not been an influence on the GOP.

 

[jnug]

Thread title: "This nation is at the mercy of a criminal administration"

Or a completely balls out, out of control administration or both. Family Separations HAVE NOT stopped at the border even after Trump's EO to stop it.

So:
- is the an example of administration officials taking matters and the law in their own hands and telling DonDon to go sit on a flagpole and rotate?
or:
Did DonDon have the unmitigated gall to sign an EO for public digestion all the while telling his administration officials to keep separating them?

My bet is on the latter and not the former. It hardly matters which. Its a completely balls out, criminal administration.

 

[TrueScotsman]

Didn't say they weren't right-wing.
They're definitely authoritarian.
Didn't say they have not been an influence on the GOP.

Another lazy response, thanks for revealing the kind of poster that you are. Bye, perhaps you can just engage with the trolls since you're not interested in substantial discussion.