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THis is why many Americans no longer believe in the Supreme Court!!!

No its not. It has political activists after people like Obama nominate activist judges who missed the day they taught law in law school. You're confusing the courts as a political institution with putting people on the supreme court as was in the case with Thomas, Bork, Cavanaugh etc. If Merrick didn't get a hearing, boo ****ing hoo.

The present SCOTUS is just a political arm of the GOP, plain and simple. They do not even try and cover it. If anyone thinks they are not, they have not looked at the present cases, which have gone straight line with the wishes of the GOP and have had nothing to do with our constitution.
 
So you admit it was a political decision, not based on law.

No it was a law based decision.
The Gov has 0 power to move the election date. it would require a bill signed by the legislature.
that is what the court ruled and they are ruling based on law.
 
The supreme court trying to get people to decide between their personal safety and their right to vote is a bad look.

Actually, the Supreme Court told Wisconsin's court that they do not have the authority to alter the law enacted by Wisconsin's State legislature. If the OP had a clue, he would know that judges do not have the authority to create their own law, or alter an existing law. But clearly the OP is civically illiterate and has no clue how is own government is suppose to function. The court must abide by the law enacted by the State legislature, who has not changed the date which absentee ballots shall be accepted. The courts cannot arbitrarily decide to alter the existing law when the State legislature has chosen not to do so.

This was a case of an activitist Wisconsin court being slapped down hard by the Supreme Court because what the Wisconsin court did was illegal.
 
Actually, the Supreme Court told Wisconsin's court that they do not have the authority to alter the law enacted by Wisconsin's State legislature. If the OP had a clue, he would know that judges do not have the authority to create their own law, or alter an existing law. But clearly the OP is civically illiterate and has no clue how is own government is suppose to function. The court must abide by the law enacted by the State legislature, who has not changed the date which absentee ballots shall be accepted. The courts cannot arbitrarily decide to alter the existing law when the State legislature has chosen not to do so.

This was a case of an activitist Wisconsin court being slapped down hard by the Supreme Court because what the Wisconsin court did was illegal.

Actually the decision by the Fed SCOTUS overturned a lower Fed court and not a state court. And the governor tried to change the date with an executive order, you know, just like trump does on the Federal level and you trumpsters just love him for it. THe legislature did not pass a law to set the date of the election, that is done by a committee set up to do so. So the Governor was not was not changing a law but a just changing the date of the election to make it safer for the people of Wisco to vote. That is something the FED SCOTUS and their bosses in the GOP leadership do not care about. It seems neither do you .
 
Actually the decision by the Fed SCOTUS overturned a lower Fed court and not a state court. And the governor tried to change the date with an executive order, you know, just like trump does on the Federal level and you trumpsters just love him for it. THe legislature did not pass a law to set the date of the election, that is done by a committee set up to do so. So the Governor was not was not changing a law but a just changing the date of the election to make it safer for the people of Wisco to vote. That is something the FED SCOTUS and their bosses in the GOP leadership do not care about. It seems neither do you .

Executive orders cannot change or create laws though.
which is why he got slapped down.

The Gov even stated that he did not have the power to do it but tried anyway.

Evers — who had previously maintained that he alone did not have the authority to postpone an election

Wisconsin law typically requires that ballots must be received by 8 p.m. on Election Day.

"The governor himself has repeatedly acknowledged he can't move the election," the statehouse leaders continued. "Gov. Evers can't unilaterally run the state."

Evers tweeted on April 1 that he couldn't postpone the election by himself. "If I could have changed the election on my own I would have but I can’t without violating state law," he wrote.

You don't know what you are talking about.
you should actually do some research into it.

Wisconsin Supreme Court overturns governor, orders Tuesday elections to proceed - POLITICO
 
Scary that you see the courts as a savior instead of elected representatives. When did democracy become so repulsive?


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The court system should act as saviors and save the constitution. What do you expect them to do?
 
The court system should act as saviors and save the constitution. What do you expect them to do?

Arbitrate the law, anything more makes them partisans.
 
They are partisan and that’s the point

I believe you only have that view of the SCOTUS because you disagree with the decision. The governor didn't have the power/authority to change the date, I believe you don't care whether he did or not because you think it should have been changed and don't care about the details.

If I've misinterpreted your position, please feel free to correct.
 
'Politicize My Death': Americans Furious Supreme Court Forcing Wisconsin Voters to 'Literally Risk Their Lives to Vote'
It seems for political reasons, the conservatives on "our" supreme court ruled that absentee ballots post marked no later than today would not be counted in this primary election overturning a lower court. The reason this is happening is because the number of absentee ballots requested due to Covid 19 was so overwhelming that the state could not get many of them mailed out in time for them to be used and returned. So this meant that instead of using the absentee ballot, the person had to go and vote in person. Essentially it was vote and take a huge chance on getting the virus or do not vote. To make things worse, the drop off places for absentee ballots were closed early so that many who could have used them were unable to do so. So for many people this is just one more reason to know that we no longer have a impartial SCOTUS, but one whose only goal is to keep the GOP in power and so they no longer believe in this court. Pititful.

The only voters that have a valid complaint regarding the SCOTUS decision are those very, very totally paranoid individuals that are 100% home bound. If they are going to Walmart or Walgreens then they can also get out and vote which is a hell of a lot more important.
 
I believe you only have that view of the SCOTUS because you disagree with the decision. The governor didn't have the power/authority to change the date, I believe you don't care whether he did or not because you think it should have been changed and don't care about the details.

If I've misinterpreted your position, please feel free to correct.

The vote was partisan. The GOP pushed for the vote and also eliminated polling places in blue districts. They wanted to bring out the conservative vote in the election, because they were trying to get a judge on the state Supreme Court. It was a partisan issue. Many states have moved the election date without issue. The GOP is chipping away voter rights in America, and the Supreme Court constantly tips the scale for right wing voter suppression and gerrymandering, and this time, the put people’s lives and health at risk.

There is no damn reason for Trump to be attacking mail in voting in the middle of this. I am worried about my rights. This isn’t about this one court case. Be smarter than that
 
The vote was partisan. The GOP pushed for the vote and also eliminated polling places in blue districts. They wanted to bring out the conservative vote in the election, because they were trying to get a judge on the state Supreme Court. It was a partisan issue. Many states have moved the election date without issue. The GOP is chipping away voter rights in America, and the Supreme Court constantly tips the scale for right wing voter suppression and gerrymandering, and this time, the put people’s lives and health at risk.

There is no damn reason for Trump to be attacking mail in voting in the middle of this. I am worried about my rights. This isn’t about this one court case. Be smarter than that

You are all over the map. The topic is the SCOTUS decision which agreed that the Governor of Wisconsin did not have the authority to postpone the election.

Your diatribe about the rest of the dysfunction which apparently exists in Wisconsin is noted and irrelevant to the decision. I’m worried about giving a Chief Executive the power to delay an election.

Why do you hate democracy? A wise man said: “elections have consequences”.


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'Politicize My Death': Americans Furious Supreme Court Forcing Wisconsin Voters to 'Literally Risk Their Lives to Vote'
It seems for political reasons, the conservatives on "our" supreme court ruled that absentee ballots post marked no later than today would not be counted in this primary election overturning a lower court. The reason this is happening is because the number of absentee ballots requested due to Covid 19 was so overwhelming that the state could not get many of them mailed out in time for them to be used and returned. So this meant that instead of using the absentee ballot, the person had to go and vote in person. Essentially it was vote and take a huge chance on getting the virus or do not vote. To make things worse, the drop off places for absentee ballots were closed early so that many who could have used them were unable to do so. So for many people this is just one more reason to know that we no longer have a impartial SCOTUS, but one whose only goal is to keep the GOP in power and so they no longer believe in this court. Pititful.

The Supreme Court interprets laws. That is their function. It's not about right or wrong, morals or no morals, or popular opinion. It is about the law is the law. It is their job to vote based on the facts and the law, not their personal opinions of the way things should be.
 
Actually, the Supreme Court told Wisconsin's court that they do not have the authority to alter the law enacted by Wisconsin's State legislature. If the OP had a clue, he would know that judges do not have the authority to create their own law, or alter an existing law. But clearly the OP is civically illiterate and has no clue how is own government is suppose to function. The court must abide by the law enacted by the State legislature, who has not changed the date which absentee ballots shall be accepted. The courts cannot arbitrarily decide to alter the existing law when the State legislature has chosen not to do so.

This was a case of an activitist Wisconsin court being slapped down hard by the Supreme Court because what the Wisconsin court did was illegal.

They ruled that the governor of Wisconsin didn't have emergency powers that he could reasonably use in this situation to keep the public of Wisconsin safe. They are required to follow the state legislature which may or may not have had time to correct this. This makes them horrid individuals that care more about the letter of the law than the actual public safety.

The remedy for Wisconsin citizens is to spend years trying to change the legislature so that they can be kept out of harms way now during a national emergency so dire that we have told almost everyone to stay home for everything but essential business.

Every one of the the conservative justices should be ashamed of the action they took which will likely result in unreasonable harm and deaths.
 
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The Supreme Court interprets laws. That is their function. It's not about right or wrong, morals or no morals, or popular opinion. It is about the law is the law. It is their job to vote based on the facts and the law, not their personal opinions of the way things should be.

The same supreme court considered Trumps declaration of an emergency enough to give him great latitude when siphoning off funds not allocated by the legislature.

With Wisconsin and actual obvious harm, they decided to make them go out, in long crowded lines, with limited poll workers and polling stations able to be opened, sticking to the letter of the law, hiding behind it like cowards in fact.

I hope the people of Wisconsin remember this betrayal of their trust.
 
It's voluntary.

Yes, it is.

And patriots wore gloves and masks and drove all over the State to vote in one of the five remaining polling stations.

Patriots.

Unlike the GOP legislature, or either the Wisconsin or US Supreme Courts.

This was a frontal assault on democracy. The tactics were draconian, and the intent very very clear.

When you have a President who flaunts the rule of law, asserts that he is a king, and an Attorney General who works to make him one, the fight to save democracy in America must be well and truly joined.
 
The same supreme court considered Trumps declaration of an emergency enough to give him great latitude when siphoning off funds not allocated by the legislature.

With Wisconsin and actual obvious harm, they decided to make them go out, in long crowded lines, with limited poll workers and polling stations able to be opened, sticking to the letter of the law, hiding behind it like cowards in fact.

I hope the people of Wisconsin remember this betrayal of their trust.

You must have misread my post. I said the Supreme Court interprets laws. That is their function. It's not about right or wrong, morals or no morals, or popular opinion. It is about the law is the law. It is their job to vote based on the facts and the law, not their personal opinions of the way things should be.

It is not their job to decide if Wisconsin voters wait in long lines during a pandemic. They decide issues based on the law, not emotions or their beliefs or their opinions.
 
You must have misread my post. I said the Supreme Court interprets laws. That is their function. It's not about right or wrong, morals or no morals, or popular opinion. It is about the law is the law. It is their job to vote based on the facts and the law, not their personal opinions of the way things should be.

Your speculation is that the Supreme Court is right on the law. They overturned a lower court decision.

They decided that the governor has to defer to the legislature in the time of an emergency when he gives an order to protect the public health.

They decided not to consider that they might be disenfranchising voters in order to uphold the letter of the law. They decided that their narrow interpretation of the law was more important than those peoples lives.

They can live with that decision but it is going to cost lives and it is their fault.

It is not their job to decide if Wisconsin voters wait in long lines during a pandemic.

That is ultimately the result of their decision.

So, ultimately they decided that the law required it. Which is why they should rethink their position both on the law and on their humanity.

No law should ever needlessly endanger the lives of the citizenry. In this case they did so for a triviality, not any compelling state interest.
 
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You are all over the map. The topic is the SCOTUS decision which agreed that the Governor of Wisconsin did not have the authority to postpone the election.

Your diatribe about the rest of the dysfunction which apparently exists in Wisconsin is noted and irrelevant to the decision. I’m worried about giving a Chief Executive the power to delay an election.

Why do you hate democracy? A wise man said: “elections have consequences”.


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Everything I said matters, because it could impact the outcome. Impacting the outcome was the point of Wisconsin's GOP, and the conservative judges on the bench allowed it. The GOP and Supreme Court are chipping away at voting rights. stop acting like you're not partisan.
 
Everything I said matters, because it could impact the outcome. Impacting the outcome was the point of Wisconsin's GOP, and the conservative judges on the bench allowed it. The GOP and Supreme Court are chipping away at voting rights. stop acting like you're not partisan.

Thank you for confirming that you only care about the outcome. The people of Wisconsin should be upset that the legislature didn’t vote to delay the election. The SCOTUS was right in affirming that the Governor doesn’t have the authority to delay an election.

You completely ignore the point which is the topic of thread. In a bit or irony, further debate with you is pointless.

I care about democracy, you don’t unless it agrees with you. That isn’t democracy, that is partisanship in the extreme. I’m not a partisan, you, of course view anyone who challenges as being a partisan. At least you consistently miss the point.


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Actually the decision by the Fed SCOTUS overturned a lower Fed court and not a state court. And the governor tried to change the date with an executive order, you know, just like trump does on the Federal level and you trumpsters just love him for it. THe legislature did not pass a law to set the date of the election, that is done by a committee set up to do so. So the Governor was not was not changing a law but a just changing the date of the election to make it safer for the people of Wisco to vote. That is something the FED SCOTUS and their bosses in the GOP leadership do not care about. It seems neither do you .

Yes-- SCOTUS overturned a decision which has said people can continue to vote after election day, that the WI electoral Commission could not speak about such an election until a week after the election
SCOTUS as correct to overturn the lower court decision.
They made no commentary as to whether or not it was wise for Wisconsin to have the election as scheduled.
 
Thank you for confirming that you only care about the outcome. The people of Wisconsin should be upset that the legislature didn’t vote to delay the election. The SCOTUS was right in affirming that the Governor doesn’t have the authority to delay an election.

You completely ignore the point which is the topic of thread. In a bit or irony, further debate with you is pointless.

I care about democracy, you don’t unless it agrees with you. That isn’t democracy, that is partisanship in the extreme. I’m not a partisan, you, of course view anyone who challenges as being a partisan. At least you consistently miss the point.


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The state GOP cares about the outcome, and that's why the supreme court is being judged badly for this. Not only did the WI GOP fight to hold the election, they also limited polling places in blue areas, and gerrymandered the district. This election for the WI GOP is about getting another conservative judge on the state supreme court. If another conservative judge gets on the bench, they will most likely continue gerrymandering and eliminating polling places.

How dare you pretend to care about democracy and voter rights. The supreme court is chipping away at voter rights. It's not just an issue of this one ruling. The supreme court has made numerous rulings in favor of voter suppression.
 
The GOP and Supreme Court are chipping away at voting rights. stop acting like you're not partisan.

This has yet to be established by the facts. A point the majority made was that the problem wasn’t the pandemic but people waiting too late to request an absentee ballot, the latter situation being no different than people waiting to the last minute to request an absentee ballot and suffering the same consequence without a pandemic. The majority says there’s been no evidence the pandemic is a cause for the possibility of the ballots not being counted as opposed to the cause being waiting too late to ask for an absentee ballot. In other words, maybe, maybe not, need evidence and at this time, it isn’t present.

Given the lack of evidence, the majority view is right, at least right now. From the decision:

“Third, the dissent refers to voters who have not yet received their absentee ballots. But even in an ordinary election, voters who request an ab- sentee ballot at the deadline for requesting ballots (which was this past Friday in this case) will usually receive their ballots on the day before or day of the election, which in this case would be today or tomorrow. The plaintiffs put for- ward no probative evidence in the District Court that these voters here would be in a substantially different position from late-requesting voters in other Wisconsin elections with respect to the timing of their receipt of absentee bal- lots. In that regard, it bears mention that absentee voting has been underway for many weeks, and 1.2 million Wis- consin voters have requested and have been sent their ab- sentee ballots, which is about five times the number of ab- sentee ballots requested in the 2016 spring election.”

Translation, you can’t blame the “pandemic” for dragging one’s feet and playing with fire by requesting absentee ballots so close to the deadline. The consequence of waiting to ask for an absentee ballot so close to the deadline is the same in both circumstances, waiting until the 11th hour jeopardizes being able to lawfully cast the ballot.

That point is made all the more poignant by the fact “absentee voting has been underway for many weeks,” and “1.2 million Wis- consin voters have requested and have been sent their ab- sentee ballots, which is about five times the number of ab- sentee ballots requested in the 2016 spring election.”

In other words, one has only themselves to blame for not promptly requesting and promptly mailing an absentee ballot.

An option, that millions of Wisconsin voters did, is to request an absentee ballot early, and promptly mail it, as 1.2 million did so, as opposed to waiting close to the deadline to request it and then blame a pandemic for requesting an absentee ballot so close to the deadline.

Rather difficult to assert voting rights are jeopardized by these circumstances, circumstances beyond the control of the voter, when 1.2 million successfully requested, received, and casted those ballots already! The lack of promptly requesting an absentee ballot, and requesting one so close to the deadline, is the issue, and that IS within the voters’ control. The majority got it right for the time being.

Some of the footnotes by the dissent may make this point for the majority.

Footnote 4: “mail delivery “can take up to a week” or longer...”transaction time from the time the clerk puts [an absentee ballot] in the mail to the voter receiving it could take up to a week...” The dissent also noted “the postal service recommends budgeting a week—even without accounting for pandemic- induced mail delays.”

So, if the “backlog” are requests at or near the deadline, then the majority view is those ballots not lawfully cast are the result of requesting an absentee ballot near the midnight.

Important to note, the majority leaves open the possibility this isn’t true, but astutely observes there was no evidence presented to the district court to the contrary. On the basis of a lack of evidence, the Court reached the right outcome for now.


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Everything I said matters, because it could impact the outcome. Impacting the outcome was the point of Wisconsin's GOP, and the conservative judges on the bench allowed it. The GOP and Supreme Court are chipping away at voting rights. stop acting like you're not partisan.

What happened in Wisconsin yesterday was more like a full frontal assault.
 
Then you don't understand the constitution. Shocking.


The present SCOTUS is just a political arm of the GOP, plain and simple. They do not even try and cover it. If anyone thinks they are not, they have not looked at the present cases, which have gone straight line with the wishes of the GOP and have had nothing to do with our constitution.
 
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