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There is absolute proof that the DELUGE actually happened

The bible isnt evidence at all.

It is iron age fables and fiction.
So, you've not proven anything at all, and have done no research on your own to validate your OPINION. This is but a narrow minded opinion based on hearsay.
 
Judgement day is fiction.

Try reading actual science and learn critical thinking and logic.

i studied science in HS and college and find it wanting. thanks for the advice though.


Dont waste your life thinking ridiculous fiction is real.

Its so sad.

I genuinely feel sorry for you.

please don't feel sorry, heaven is waiting for me. hopefully for you too.

ditch any Science that contradicts the Bible is your first step to Wisdom.


see you at church this Sunday at the Mourner's Bench.

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lol. That is the fiction im talking about.

That is contrary to wisdom


Silly nonsense.

James 1:5

If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him.

James 3:17

But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, open to reason, full of mercy and good fruits, impartial and sincere.

Proverbs 3:13-18

Blessed is the one who finds wisdom, and the one who gets understanding, for the gain from her is better than gain from silver and her profit better than gold. She is more precious than jewels, and nothing you desire can compare with her. Long life is in her right hand; in her left hand are riches and honor. Her ways are ways of pleasantness, and all her paths are peace. ...

Proverbs 1:7

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Proverbs 19:20

Listen to advice and accept instruction, that you may gain wisdom in the future.

Ephesians 5:15-17

Look carefully then how you walk, not as unwise but as wise, making the best use of the time, because the days are evil. Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord is.

Proverbs 12:15

The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, but a wise man listens to advice.

Proverbs 10:23

Doing wrong is like a joke to a fool, but wisdom is pleasure to a man of understanding.
 

James 1:5

If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him.

James 3:17

But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, open to reason, full of mercy and good fruits, impartial and sincere.

Proverbs 3:13-18

Blessed is the one who finds wisdom, and the one who gets understanding, for the gain from her is better than gain from silver and her profit better than gold. She is more precious than jewels, and nothing you desire can compare with her. Long life is in her right hand; in her left hand are riches and honor. Her ways are ways of pleasantness, and all her paths are peace. ...

Proverbs 1:7

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Proverbs 19:20

Listen to advice and accept instruction, that you may gain wisdom in the future.

Ephesians 5:15-17

Look carefully then how you walk, not as unwise but as wise, making the best use of the time, because the days are evil. Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord is.

Proverbs 12:15

The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, but a wise man listens to advice.

Proverbs 10:23

Doing wrong is like a joke to a fool, but wisdom is pleasure to a man of understanding.
Quoting the bible to prove the bible is correct is text book circular reasoning.

A logical fallacy.

Try to do better.
 
You made a statement. And I see nothing to substantiate your constant disparaging of the Bible on your part.
youve got the burden of proof backwards, but here is a start snyway.
  • Inconsistencies and Contradictions:
    The Bible contains numerous internal contradictions and inconsistencies, both in historical accounts and theological doctrines, which raise questions about its reliability as a factual text.

  • Lack of External Evidence:
    Many stories in the Bible, particularly those involving miracles and supernatural events, lack independent, verifiable evidence outside of the biblical text itself.

  • Similarities with Pagan Mythology:
    Some biblical stories, like the virgin birth of Jesus and the flood narrative, bear striking resemblances to older pagan myths, suggesting possible borrowing or adaptation.

  • Changing Interpretations:
    Over time, different interpretations of the Bible have arisen, leading to diverse and sometimes conflicting understandings of its meaning and message.
 
Yes, yes, yes.... And I've provided very forthright contrary opinions that make an explanation without trying to belittle, insult, or make fun of those that wish to believe anything to the contrary. Do evolutionists and Uniformitarian researcher disregard the Bible under the pretext that it is unreliable, unbelievable, and just myth? I see nothing at all wrong with using the Bible to formulate an investigation, anymore than someone applying Darwin's, ON THE ORIGIN OF SPECIES BY MEANS OF NATURAL SELECTION. To say otherwise sounds rather disingenuous of you.
You aren't providing "counter explanations". Your person is claiming that the only thing that causes that is "the flood", when the actual geologists (that guy only has a BS in Geology) are saying "no, tectonic plate movement causes that".

Science disregards all statements that are being presented without evidence and in this case, are proven to be wrong, factually incorrect by evidence.

You still have absolutely no scientific evidence to show how you could solve the heat problem (there are actually several) when it comes to the global flood, YEC explanation.
 
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another Reading Comprehension issue,
but maybe he never graduated?.....


And here ☝️ we see proof positive that @Revelation doesn't know what the Christian bible says about "The beginning of wisdom", which explains his many failed prophecies.

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The Fear Of God --->Is The Beginning Of Wisdom<---​

Proverbs 9:10

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and the knowledge of the Holy One is insight.

Logic is thumping very hard today.

but what he is saying is a bit of a stretch and what i said basically agrees with Proverbs anyway.

i think he has a Problem with Reading Comprehension from years of indoctrination at publik skools

which explains his many failed prophecies.


again another demonstration of Reading Comprehension at a Low Ebb.
he didn't understand what April 8 was about, or July 9; probably reads with a swirling filter on his glasses.


blessings keep digging.

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Logic is thumping very hard today.



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Nope, Rev.

Just presenting 'actual' biblical scripture that summarily debunks your above non-biblical positive assertion you chose to put forth in your post #453 above.

Deal with it as best you can.
 
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You aren't providing "counter explanations". Your person is claiming that the only thing that causes that is "the flood", when the actual geologists (that guy only has a BS in Geology) are saying "no, tectonic plate movement causes that".

Science disregards all statements that are being presented without evidence and in this case, are proven to be wrong, factually incorrect by evidence.

You still have absolutely no scientific evidence to show how you could solve the heat problem (there are actually several) when it comes to the global flood, YEC explanation.
I disagree. What you are viewing are two different narratives: A secular narrative that doesn't even mention Creationist views, and a YEC explanation that also regards the measurements of secularists.
 
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I disagree. What you are viewing are two different narratives: A secular narrative that doesn't even mention Creationist views, and a YEC explanation that also regards the measurements of secularists.
There is no evidence for creationist, especially YEC views, and plenty against. You aren't regarding the measurements, scientific findings of people who aren't believing as you do at all. You simply dismiss them or ignore them.

Note how you can't effectively cover the heat problem. You can't adequately explain why men are as closely related to chimps or closer than other animals you would easily put into the same "kind". You can't show how there were various records, evidence for civilizations that existed on other continents, in other places than Noah 4k+ years ago that did not see any pause in their cultures for your supposed flood. There is plenty of evidence showing that the continents divided millions of years ago, not a few thousand. There is plenty of evidence that humans never lived alongside dinos of any kind. There is no scientific evidence of humans living alongside dinos.

I look into this stuff because I started questioning this very early on, how ridiculous it all sounded, seemed when being told about Noah and learning about history and Evolution and genetics in school.
 
There is no evidence for creationist, especially YEC views, and plenty against. You aren't regarding the measurements, scientific findings of people who aren't believing as you do at all. You simply dismiss them or ignore them.

Note how you can't effectively cover the heat problem. You can't adequately explain why men are as closely related to chimps or closer than other animals you would easily put into the same "kind". You can't show how there were various records, evidence for civilizations that existed on other continents, in other places than Noah 4k+ years ago that did not see any pause in their cultures for your supposed flood. There is plenty of evidence showing that the continents divided millions of years ago, not a few thousand. There is plenty of evidence that humans never lived alongside dinos of any kind. There is no scientific evidence of humans living alongside dinos.

I look into this stuff because I started questioning this very early on, how ridiculous it all sounded, seemed when being told about Noah and learning about history and Evolution and genetics in school.
I disagree. Nothing was ever gained from dwelling on what one thinks the past might have been. However, if I'm wrong ---- I lose nothing. If you're wrong you've lost everything. In either case, there is absolutely nothing to gain from a past were humans never existed.

Historical artwork and artifacts (full article found here:​

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Misinterpretations​

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The "dinosaur of Ta Prohm", erroneously identified by some as a depiction of a stegosaur
In some cases, historical artwork has been interpreted as depicting non-avian dinosaurs. Although there is artwork that in cases share superficial resemblances with some dinosaur species, identifying them as such often involves ignoring both the context of the artwork itself and dinosaur biology.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human–dinosaur_coexistence#cite_note-:1-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a> Some examples of historical art, particularly from Ancient Rome and Egypt, that has been interpreted as dinosaurian by pseudoscientists are conventionally seen as depictions of crocodiles.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human–dinosaur_coexistence#cite_note-:1-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a>

An often cited example of a supposed non-avian dinosaur depicted in historical art is a hand-sized carving at Ta Prohm, allegedly of a stegosaur. The series of "plates" along the animal's back are however more likely to be stylized lotus leaves or petals, which are shown around numerous other animal and human figures in medieval Cambodian art, including in other carvings at the same temple. The creature is furthermore depicted with large ear flaps or horns, structures that are not known in stegosaurs.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human–dinosaur_coexistence#cite_note-:1-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a>
 
Continued from above:
Humans hunting the "krokodilopardalis" in the Nile mosaic of Palestrina (1st century BCE)
Another example is a creature referred to as a krokodilopardalis ("crocodile leopard") in the 1st century BCE Nile mosaic of Palestrina. Some creationists have identified this creature as a theropod dinosaur, though the krokodilopardalis looks virtually nothing like one; it has a quadrupedal stance and clearly mammalian paws.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human–dinosaur_coexistence#cite_note-:1-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a>

Some proponents of human and non-avian dinosaur coexistence have equated the Mesopotamian mušḫuššu, a legendary chimeric creature, with dinosaurs. Robert Koldewey, the discoverer of the Ishtar Gate in Babylon (which contains depictions of this creature), apparently had such ideas and found it to be similar to how Iguanodon was conceptualized at the time. Even some cryptozoologists reject this idea however, given that the mušḫuššu clearly combines various features of different animals in an arrangement not actually reminiscent of a dinosaur.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human–dinosaur_coexistence#cite_note-:4-13"><span>[</span>13<span>]</span></a>
 
I always find modern Christians sad. They so want their fantasy of immortality that they make excuses by attacking science. These so called Chriatains voted in a Government that promises to force America Christian. These idiots voted for the Romans. They would have supported Christ being nailed to a cross on 5th avenue.
 
I disagree. Nothing was ever gained from dwelling on what one thinks the past might have been. However, if I'm wrong ---- I lose nothing. If you're wrong you've lost everything. In either case, there is absolutely nothing to gain from a past were humans never existed.

Historical artwork and artifacts (full article found here:​

edit]

Misinterpretations​

[edit]
The "dinosaur of Ta Prohm", erroneously identified by some as a depiction of a stegosaur
In some cases, historical artwork has been interpreted as depicting non-avian dinosaurs. Although there is artwork that in cases share superficial resemblances with some dinosaur species, identifying them as such often involves ignoring both the context of the artwork itself and dinosaur biology.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human–dinosaur_coexistence#cite_note-:1-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a> Some examples of historical art, particularly from Ancient Rome and Egypt, that has been interpreted as dinosaurian by pseudoscientists are conventionally seen as depictions of crocodiles.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human–dinosaur_coexistence#cite_note-:1-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a>

An often cited example of a supposed non-avian dinosaur depicted in historical art is a hand-sized carving at Ta Prohm, allegedly of a stegosaur. The series of "plates" along the animal's back are however more likely to be stylized lotus leaves or petals, which are shown around numerous other animal and human figures in medieval Cambodian art, including in other carvings at the same temple. The creature is furthermore depicted with large ear flaps or horns, structures that are not known in stegosaurs.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human–dinosaur_coexistence#cite_note-:1-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a>

You could be wrong in a way you haven't thought of yet.

What if there is a god, an afterlife, but not yours? Instead, this god values integrity, scientific initiative and acceptance of evidence as it is, not simply as you want it to be or what fits the narrative you believe? That god may easily be willing to not have any issue with people not believing in them, but have a huge issue with people who would rather give up their integrity, their reasoning just to have their personal beliefs "confirmed" even by lies or misinformation. If my scenario is real, you lose more than I do..
 
Continued from above:
Humans hunting the "krokodilopardalis" in the Nile mosaic of Palestrina (1st century BCE)
Another example is a creature referred to as a krokodilopardalis ("crocodile leopard") in the 1st century BCE Nile mosaic of Palestrina. Some creationists have identified this creature as a theropod dinosaur, though the krokodilopardalis looks virtually nothing like one; it has a quadrupedal stance and clearly mammalian paws.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human–dinosaur_coexistence#cite_note-:1-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a>

Some proponents of human and non-avian dinosaur coexistence have equated the Mesopotamian mušḫuššu, a legendary chimeric creature, with dinosaurs. Robert Koldewey, the discoverer of the Ishtar Gate in Babylon (which contains depictions of this creature), apparently had such ideas and found it to be similar to how Iguanodon was conceptualized at the time. Even some cryptozoologists reject this idea however, given that the mušḫuššu clearly combines various features of different animals in an arrangement not actually reminiscent of a dinosaur.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human–dinosaur_coexistence#cite_note-:4-13"><span>[</span>13<span>]</span></a>
People made up all sorts of animals that there is no evidence of ever existing. This is something humans do. It has nothing to do with dinosaurs.

And that earlier picture is not evidence of anything, including people living with stegosaurus, because we didn't. It's just imagination, no different than people seeing things in clouds that fit certain patterns.
 
I always find modern Christians sad. They so want their fantasy of immortality that they make excuses by attacking science.
Because science challenges, contradicts, and even refutes their beliefs, fantasies, and dogma. Historically, religion has always been hostile towards science. Religion thrives on ignorance and science makes people more educated and more likely to question religious assertions.
 
You could be wrong in a way you haven't thought of yet.

What if there is a god, an afterlife, but not yours? Instead, this god values integrity, scientific initiative and acceptance of evidence as it is, not simply as you want it to be or what fits the narrative you believe? That god may easily be willing to not have any issue with people not believing in them, but have a huge issue with people who would rather give up their integrity, their reasoning just to have their personal beliefs "confirmed" even by lies or misinformation. If my scenario is real, you lose more than I do..
Only the LORD JESUS CHRIST has revealed HIMSELF. If there isn't GOD, there is no integrity because that is a spiritual attribute and not a material one, and integrity isn't a field of science. At least I'm not a bobble head accepting everything some professor presents in a purely secular atmosphere, in order to achieve good grades and a secular career in paleontology.
 
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another Reading Comprehension issue, but maybe he never graduated?.....




Logic is thumping very hard today.

but what he is saying is a bit of a stretch and what i said basically agrees with Proverbs anyway.

i think he has a Problem with Reading Comprehension from years of indoctrination at publik skools




again another demonstration of Reading Comprehension at a Low Ebb. he didn't understand what April 8 was about, or July 9; probably reads with a swirling filter on his glasses.


blessings keep digging.

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It's July 11, what happened 2 days ago?
 
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