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The Sleepy Joe Biden Hypocirsy Has No Bounds

Moot said:
So what has changed since then?
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Well, there isn't a Russian investigation going on, the Mueller report failed, and Trump doesn't have any lawsuits against him, and if anyone files a lawsuit against the president of the US he doesn't pay attorneys to handle those claims.

So who are all these criminal defense lawyers and where are all these lawsuits the President if fighting with his own money? Or were just spit balling
 
Moot said:
It appears that most of those campaign donations are being squandered to pay for Trump's legal bills
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300 HUNDRED MILLION IN LEGAL BILLS. :lamo
 
Condor060 said:
Well, there isn't a Russian investigation going on, the Mueller report failed, and Trump doesn't have any lawsuits against him, and if anyone files a lawsuit against the president of the US he doesn't pay attorneys to handle those claims.

So who are all these criminal defense lawyers and where are all these lawsuits the President if fighting with his own money? Or were just spit balling
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The Mueller report left Trump wide open for lawsuits and has spurred several investigations into his taxes, his business dealings, his campaign funding and violation of the emolument clause by multiple agencies, including the IRS, Congress, SDNY and the FBI. Not to mention the Ukraine scandal that spurred an impeachment inquiry. This article lists at least nine ongoing investigations by outside agencies and five congressional investigations against Trump personally...

Here Are the Investigations Donald Trump Still Faces | Time

No lawsuits you say? Now lets see, not counting the numerous lawsuits against his presidency...I count five lawsuits against his campaign, four lawsuits for sexual misconduct and assault, two lawsuits over financial manipulation and employee payment. That totals at least eleven ongoing lawsuits against him personally. Of course, that pales in comparison to the 3500 lawsuits he had before he was president.

List of lawsuits involving Donald Trump - Wikipedia

Legal affairs of Donald Trump - Wikipedia

It's easier to find a list of lawyers that quit or refuse to work with Trump than it is to find of those currently working for him. But there is little doubt he still has a small army of lawyers and their firms working for him and at $700 or more an hour, not to mention retainers, the cost of his legal fees must be phenomenal. Dowd alone demanded a $100K retaining fee.

All the lawyers declining to represent Trump in Mueller probe
 
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Condor060 said:
More Fake news. But I will be glad to get you up to speed. Trump and the RNC have raised over 300 million with 155 million cash on hand which is the most money ever raised by a presidential candidate in history.

Over 60% of those monies raised are from voters with an average of $44 which in the highest in history

The Trump campaign has raised more than all Democrat Candidates COMBINED

The DNC has raised 88 million with only 8 million on hand. They don't even have enough for a convention.

You should really prepare yourself
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How do you feel about Trump keeping only 3 of 6 members on the FEC, so it can't reach a quorum of 4, and take any law enforcement action?
 
HAL9000 said:
How do you feel about Trump keeping only 3 of 6 members on the FEC, so it can't reach a quorum of 4, and take any law enforcement action?
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They have a real mess over there. The one Trump appointed just resigned and they haven't had another one get through the confirmation process. They need to fix it.
 
Moot said:
The Mueller report left Trump wide open for lawsuits and has spurred several investigations into his taxes, his business dealings, his campaign funding and violation of the emolument clause by multiple agencies, including the IRS, Congress, SDNY and the FBI. Not to mention the Ukraine scandal that spurred an impeachment inquiry. This article lists at least nine ongoing investigations by outside agencies and five congressional investigations against Trump personally...

Here Are the Investigations Donald Trump Still Faces | Time

No lawsuits you say? Now lets see, not counting the numerous lawsuits against his presidency...I count five lawsuits against his campaign, four lawsuits for sexual misconduct and assault, two lawsuits over financial manipulation and employee payment. That totals at least eleven ongoing lawsuits against him personally. Of course, that pales in comparison to the 3500 lawsuits he had before he was president.

List of lawsuits involving Donald Trump - Wikipedia

Legal affairs of Donald Trump - Wikipedia

It's easier to find a list of lawyers that quit or refuse to work with Trump than it is to find of those currently working for him. But there is little doubt he still has a small army of lawyers and their firms working for him and at $700 or more an hour, not to mention retainers, the cost of his legal fees must be phenomenal. Dowd alone demanded a $100K retaining fee.

All the lawyers declining to represent Trump in Mueller probe
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ANd you can't even name one? Thats what I thought. By the way, Trump doesn't pay to be investigated. lol
 
Condor060 said:
ANd you can't even name one? Thats what I thought. By the way, Trump doesn't pay to be investigated. lol
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If you're so smart, then why don't you name one?

Btw, no one said he did.
 
Moot said:
If you're so smart, then why don't you name one?

Btw, no one said he did.
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There aren't any to name. Thats how I knew you couldn't name one. You found one fake news article from 2017 that said Trump was spending MOST of his campaign funds on representation during the Mueller investigation but you couldn't even name one attorney involved. You know why, because he never hired any attorney to represent him. That was Barr's job.

Then you had him using most of the 300 million in donations for attorney fees but you can't even provide a single name or any claim they are representing him for.

You are another product of fake news. 300 million in attorney fees? This is what you think? Here is a heads up. If Trump was using campaign funds for personal representation he would be in violation of campaign finance and it would be national news. If you are going to use fake claims like this you are going to get caught.

You either have no clue what you're talking about or you are just knowingly pushing false information. Just an FYI, a defense team for a murder trial would be around 100K. So to put that is perspective, Trump would have to have over 3000 such trials going on. How can you post such ridiculous claims?
 
Condor060 said:
Biden only has 9 million to run his campaign. Donations come from a lot of voters. So Biden has 9 million in support and Trump has 300 million in support and you still believe in those fake polls? You guys never learn.
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How many Democratic candidates are there? I wonder how much all of those add up to?
 
Condor060 said:
There aren't any to name. Thats how I knew you couldn't name one. You found one fake news article from 2017 that said Trump was spending MOST of his campaign funds on representation during the Mueller investigation but you couldn't even name one attorney involved. You know why, because he never hired any attorney to represent him. That was Barr's job.

Then you had him using most of the 300 million in donations for attorney fees but you can't even provide a single name or any claim they are representing him for.

You are another product of fake news. 300 million in attorney fees? This is what you think? Here is a heads up. If Trump was using campaign funds for personal representation he would be in violation of campaign finance and it would be national news. If you are going to use fake claims like this you are going to get caught.

You either have no clue what you're talking about or you are just knowingly pushing false information. Just an FYI, a defense team for a murder trial would be around 100K. So to put that is perspective, Trump would have to have over 3000 such trials going on. How can you post such ridiculous claims?
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You're moving the goal posts. We were discussing his "personal" lawyers....not WH lawyers. His personal lawyers defend him on issues that don't pertain to his job as president....such as sexual assault, tax evasion, unpaid employees, financial manipulation, money laundering, campaign funding violations, etc. The reason I can't find one is because they seem to have all either refused to work with him, in jail...or QUIT. And that includes Giuliani who will likely end up in prison.

You're are a product of fake news...and you prove it in every post you make.
 
Moot said:
You're moving the goal posts. We were discussing his "personal" lawyers....not WH lawyers. His personal lawyers defend him on issues that don't pertain to his job as president....such as sexual assault, tax evasion, unpaid employees, financial manipulation, money laundering, campaign funding violations, etc.
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You can't name one because Trump was never charged with ANY crime and you can't file a civil suit against a sitting president so what does he need all these lawyers for.

You don't have a charge
You don't have a civil case
So you don't have any attorney names

The reason I can't find one is because they seem to have all either refused to work with him, in jail...or QUIT. And that includes Giuliani who will likely end up in prison.
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Well, if they all are in jail (LOL) or quit then how is he spending hundreds of millions of attorneys? Thats about the dumbest statement I have seen thus far.

You're are a product of fake news...and you prove it in every post you make.
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Says the one who says Trump spends hundreds of millions on attorneys who have quit or are in jail. :lamo
 
lwf said:
How many Democratic candidates are there? I wonder how much all of those add up to?
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There are 12 left and total about 100 million between all of them combined
 
Condor060 said:
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After I removed all the lies, denials, distortions, fallacies and hyperbole from your post...there didn't seem any thing of value or substance worth responding to. So until there is, I don't see the need to respond to you or your posts anymore. Ciao.
 
Moot said:
After I removed all the lies, denials, distortions, fallacies and hyperbole from your post...there didn't seem any thing of value or substance worth responding to. So until there is, I don't see the need to respond to you or your posts anymore. Ciao.
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You mean after you got embarrassed for all the BS you tried to pass off so you decided to delete everything and just run from the conversation?

Good choice. I have never seen such ridiculous claims about hundreds of millions of dollars spent on attorneys that won't work for Trump.
 
jet57 said:
Again, show us where Biden "approves".
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Well, you tell me. Biden took the money because he disproves? How does that make any sense? They don't really state the super obvious in these news reports. They take for granted that people with an IQ high enough to read it don't need to be told what everyone already knows.

So you are one of those few who needs the reporter to tell them Biden approves even after he took the money? Oooookkkkkkaaaayyyyy
 
Condor060 said:
You can't name one because Trump was never charged with ANY crime and you can't file a civil suit against a sitting president so what does he need all these lawyers for.

You don't have a charge
You don't have a civil case
So you don't have any attorney names



Well, if they all are in jail (LOL) or quit then how is he spending hundreds of millions of attorneys? Thats about the dumbest statement I have seen thus far.



Says the one who says Trump spends hundreds of millions on attorneys who have quit or are in jail. :lamo
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Yes you can file civil suits against a sitting President. Several states are suing him over using emergency funds for the border wall.

The President can be sued on an personal level for things he has done outside of his office as President. So you couldnt sue the President as an individual citizen for say a bill he signed or an Executive Order he put out that cost you money or caused damage to you in some way. But if he were to grab someone's butt while on the campaign trail, he could get sued for that. He can also be sued for things he did before getting in office, while in office.

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Condor060 said:
Well, you tell me. Biden took the money because he disproves? How does that make any sense? They don't really state the super obvious in these news reports. They take for granted that people with an IQ high enough to read it don't need to be told what everyone already knows.

So you are one of those few who needs the reporter to tell them Biden approves even after he took the money? Oooookkkkkkaaaayyyyy
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Biden hasn't organized the PAC nor has he said that he endorses it. So thus far Biden hasn't "taken" any money from them.
 
Condor060 said:
The Sleepy Joe Biden Hypocirsy Has No Bounds
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With name calling skills like that, you must be an absolute force on the Elementary School playgrounds debating six year olds.

Too bad most people are too mature to do that once they hit their tweens eh?
 
jet57 said:
Biden hasn't organized the PAC nor has he said that he endorses it. So thus far Biden hasn't "taken" any money from them.
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Oh oh. Facts. The enemy of Trump and much of his base.
 
JustHanging said:
Oh oh. Facts. The enemy of Trump and much of his base.
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Yep. What we're finding out is that the far right has no care at all about the United States: they and their masters in the Republican party are confederates and only care about their agenda. They come into these places like the brown shirts of the late twenties "to bust up the beer hall meetings and beat up people who say they're wrong".
 
Moderate Right said:
Hypocrisy is something only the other side does.
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Not always, but certainly in this instance.. That's why I think it's wrong whether it's done by Trump or Biden, whereas nearly all of Trump's supporters are being hypocrites, attacking Biden and defending Trump doing it.

I believe you're in that group, aren't you MR? It's kind of hilarious how you, like Trump, are always projecting your feelings about yourself onto others.
 
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