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The Scientific Superiority of Christianity and Republican Capitalism:

James972

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Christianity became the dominant religion of the West mostly because it evolved well. Christians we taught to "love thy neighbor as thyself"; thus Christians helped each other survive while other pre-christian Romans were busy killing each other off.* Similarly,* Republican capitalism evolved well too. Those who contributed most to society were rewarded most and emulated most thus the idea of contributing to the commonweal became a cultural/religious/ reproductive* mandate of sorts just as scientific Darwinism would have predicted.

Liberals are anti-science and, really, anti-thought so miss what is happening right under their noses much to our grave peril.*
 
Christian's apply the Golden Rule as might a mad hornet ask questions first and sting later.

no idea what you are trying to say. Do you have any idea of how it relates to OP??
 
I'm sure you don't. That's why I deleted the post.

why bother with a post if you cant relate it to OP? Trying to change subject when you are confused?
 
So what is the reason that Muslims flourish in other parts of the world. God help us.
 
Capitalism != Republican.
Popularity != superiority.
 
Capitalism != Republican.
Popularity != superiority.
1) Democrats support obamacare for example so are really not capitalist.
2 ) in evolution science popularity is directly related to superiority

do you understand?
 
Christianity became the dominant religion of the West mostly because it evolved well. Christians we taught to "love thy neighbor as thyself"; thus Christians helped each other survive while other pre-christian Romans were busy killing each other off.* Similarly,* Republican capitalism evolved well too. Those who contributed most to society were rewarded most and emulated most thus the idea of contributing to the commonweal became a cultural/religious/ reproductive* mandate of sorts just as scientific Darwinism would have predicted.

Liberals are anti-science and, really, anti-thought so miss what is happening right under their noses much to our grave peril.*

Me thinks you missed a whole lot of World History classes.
 
1) Democrats support obamacare for example so are really not capitalist.
Republicans support medicare/aid last I checked. Your arguments are too stupid to imagine you are serious.
There is no nation in existence that I'm aware of that is "purely capitalistic", they are all mixed economies. It would be just as big of a disaster as purely communistic, and everyone sane knows that.
Capitalism without restraint simply means unlimited power to own everything that can be owned, which leads to consolidation of power in the hands of a few, which equals disaster throughout history.

2 ) in evolution science popularity is directly related to superiority
That's false, and evidences your complete and total lack of understanding of science, and of evolution.
What people prefer, vs alleles frequency, are entirely different concepts.
Worse, allele frequency being high does not mean those genes are superior, because superiority is subjective. It means given that environment, it resulted in greater frequency. That is all really.
It's a constant thing in nature of "popular genes" to end up leaving a species vulnerable to some environmental change, and the "popular gene" becomes the vulnerability that nearly wipes them out (etc.)

I think it's pretty clear that a great many people can be inferior morons in any given population, and it often doesn't even affect the survival of the nation. Some good people somewhere likely carry their sorry asses.
 
sure its really an off shoot of Christianity

Islam is an offshoot of Christianity?
Damn. Didn't think that one through very far, didja.
 
Christianity became the dominant religion of the West mostly because it evolved well. Christians we taught to "love thy neighbor as thyself"; thus Christians helped each other survive while other pre-christian Romans were busy killing each other off.* Similarly,* Republican capitalism evolved well too. Those who contributed most to society were rewarded most and emulated most thus the idea of contributing to the commonweal became a cultural/religious/ reproductive* mandate of sorts just as scientific Darwinism would have predicted.

Liberals are anti-science and, really, anti-thought so miss what is happening right under their noses much to our grave peril.*

James972:

So Christian capitalists were so moved by the doctrines of love and community espoused by the son of a Galilean carpenter that they adopted the social Darwinism of rewarding the hyper-competitive and greedy while at the same time punishing the multitudes of the meek in a cut-throat market economy? Max Weber and Thorstein Veblen are the new apostles perhaps? Exactly which "scientists" have made this argument and please cite some of their research and supporting papers in defence of this "interesting" thesis?

Perhaps you ought to study the history of Christianity a little more deeply in order to gain a better appreciation of both its many positive impacts on Western societies and its brutally negative impacts too.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
So what is the reason that Muslims flourish in other parts of the world. God help us.

Name a non corrupt, free muslim nation, where everyone including gays and women have equal rights under the law...
 
Christianity became the dominant religion of the West mostly because it evolved well. Christians we taught to "love thy neighbor as thyself"; thus Christians helped each other survive while other pre-christian Romans were busy killing each other off.* Similarly,* Republican capitalism evolved well too. Those who contributed most to society were rewarded most and emulated most thus the idea of contributing to the commonweal became a cultural/religious/ reproductive* mandate of sorts just as scientific Darwinism would have predicted.

Liberals are anti-science and, really, anti-thought so miss what is happening right under their noses much to our grave peril.*

Rome lasted 1000 years, so far Christianity has not created any government stable enough to come close to that accomplishment. Try again.
 
Christianity became the dominant religion of the West mostly because it evolved well. Christians we taught to "love thy neighbor as thyself"; thus Christians helped each other survive while other pre-christian Romans were busy killing each other off.* Similarly,* Republican capitalism evolved well too. Those who contributed most to society were rewarded most and emulated most thus the idea of contributing to the commonweal became a cultural/religious/ reproductive* mandate of sorts just as scientific Darwinism would have predicted.

Liberals are anti-science and, really, anti-thought so miss what is happening right under their noses much to our grave peril.*

There is absolutely nothing in your post that is accurate.
 
There is absolutely nothing in your post that is accurate.

if so why so afraid to present the best example. What do you learn from your liberal fear?
 
Rome lasted 1000 years, so far Christianity has not created any government stable enough to come close to that accomplishment. Try again.

???? Christianity is not trying to create a government?????
 
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There is no nation in existence that I'm aware of that is "purely capitalistic", they are all mixed economies..

everybody agrees, So????????????????????? Do you have any idea what subject you are on?
 
Islam is an offshoot of Christianity?
Damn. Didn't think that one through very far, didja.


Sent from The history of Islam concerns the political, economic, social, and cultural developments of the Islamic civilization. Despite concerns about the reliability of early sources, most historians[1]believe that Islam originated in Mecca and Medina at the start of the 7th century. Muslimshowever believe that it did not start with Muhammad, but that it was the original faith of others whom they regard as Prophets, such as Jesus, David, Moses, Abraham, Noah and Adam
 
James972:

So Christian capitalists were so moved by the doctrines of love and community espoused by the son of a Galilean carpenter that they adopted the social Darwinism of rewarding the hyper-competitive and greedy

hyper competitive to provide the most food clothing and shelter out of love not greed is a very very good god thing!! Do you understand now?
 
its brutally negative impacts too.
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Why so afraid to tell us a brutally negative impact. What does the liberal you learn from his fear?
 
hyper competitive to provide the most food clothing and shelter out of love not greed is a very very good god thing!! Do you understand now?

James972:

Except it doesn't as greed trumps love in both capitalism and corporatism and thus an ever-increasing portion of the resources are redirected to profits and concentrated in the hands of the few rather than providing for the needs of the many. Those redirected resources then are used in non-productive political ways to entrench the privilege and power of the rich few over the struggling many and tilt the playing field to the advantage of the rich. The profit-taking also redirects capital into non-productive speculative-capitalism which is a net drain on the economy and thus deprives more of the needy from having access to the resources they require to sustain themselves. That is one reason why American health care is so expensive and yet delivers less in terms of public health benefits except to those who can afford the best and most expensive care.

Greed and hyper-competitiveness serve only themselves and not the society in general. That is why Adam Smith used the phrase "enlightened self interest" rather than greed in The Wealth of Nations, as he understood where capitalism would gravitate to unless it was constrained by other countervailing societal forces in order to discipline it.

You may not want to admit it but far more people have been raised out of poverty by mixed models of socialism and capitalism than by laissez-faire capitalism. Just look at China or India as modern-day examples. The USA won its prosperity not only through the hard work of its entrepreneurs and workers but also through the displacement and resource theft of millions of indigenous people. When the numbers of the dead and dislocated are added into the equation then the American capitalist model does not appear to be so shiny and efficient.

Cheers.
Evilroddy?
 
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Why so afraid to tell us a brutally negative impact. What does the liberal you learn from his fear?

James972:

I am not afraid to tell both the good and the bad. As to your question, "What does the liberal you learn from this fear?", that is one of you stock question formats and is neither helpful nor necessary. The better question is what history and/or science backs up the original thesis you laid out in post #1 but failed to support in any way with data, analysis or citations?

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
So what is the reason that Muslims flourish in other parts of the world. God help us.

Islam 'flourishes' in some places for one reason only: oil money. The Islamic states contribute nothing to the sciences, technology or the arts. They are all backward, undemocratic and repressive. Leave 'God' to them, we must help ourselves.
 
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