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The Red/Blue Divide Groweth

In what manner of events do you think this growing chasm will "come to a head"?

I know the US is very different than Thailand but the political divide it currently has is similar to that Thailand had/has in 2006-2008

The rural majority elected someone who the urban middle class, military and royalists did not like.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Thailand#2001–2006,_Thaksin_Shinawatra

Red shirts, yellow shirts
The so-called "Red Shirts" got their start as supporters of deposed former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra. Red shirts transferred their support to Thailand's ruling Pheu Thai party led by his sister, Yingluck Shinawatra. In general, red shirts see attempts by the urban and military elite to control Thai politics as a threat to democracy.[7] The "yellow shirts" represent those opposed to Thaksin. They were the force behind the street protests that led to the 2006 coup. The yellow shirts are a loose grouping of royalists, ultra-nationalists, and the urban middle class opposed to Thaksin and overarching democratic rule by a rural majority.[8]

2008 political crisis
In 2008, Thailand saw increasing political turmoil, with the PPP government facing pressure to step down amid mounting civil disobedience and unrest led by PAD. The conflict centred on the constitution. The PPP supported the amendment of the 2007 constitution, while anti-government protesters considered it to be a political amnesty for Thaksin and his followers.

The anti-government protesters were, said, mostly better educated, more affluent, urban Thais criticizing a Western-style electoral system corrupted by rich politicians. Thaksin was accused of buying votes, bureaucrats, policemen, military officers, and even political factions. Thaksin became the example of the businessman autocrat, launching so-called populist projects, some of which were controversial, such as the war on drugs. Hundreds of killings and murder cases noted by the police were said by them to be merely fighting among the drug traffickers, but no further investigation ever occurred. The judicial process was seen as useless; instead, decisive justice was seen to be in the hands of the police.

As the anti-government movement had criticized Thaksin as an example of a corrupt politician, it discredited the election system, suggesting at once a system in which part of the representatives in the national assembly would be chosen by certain professions or social groups.

Anti-Thaksin protesters were vastly outnumbered by Thaksin's supporters in the rural majority, who delivered to his party two resounding election victories. Their loyalty was rewarded by generous social and economic welfare programs. The anti-government forces were well-organized, and criticized the behind-the-scenes support of the military, the country's most influential institution, seeing Thaksin supported by anti-royalists, former revolutionaries, and ex-communists aiming at regime change.[9]
 
CBS pole has that 68% of republicans approved Trump's performance in Russia. There's your divide.

The last figures I saw (gallup) 26% of the population identifies as Repub. 68% of 28% is...

The 2 parties are losing members. Us NPA's will hopefully organized at some point and remove their life support. That's overdue.
 
lol @ the claim that my observation of facts are crap. :roll:

Facts have a liberal bias in the Fake News world the Right lives in. I guess.

I already highlighted the crap. You can't seem to respond to that. That's fine. I'll take that as an admission you're simply trolling. It's not like I didn't know it. I just wanted to point it out. I do that every once in a while. Had you been genuinely interested in the content of the article, you wouldn't have started the thread in the manner you did.
 
Look all over the country. You'll see the same divide.

50 miles outside of Chicago, Illinois is a red state. 30 miles South of Cleveland, Ohio is too. PA? take away Philly and the heart of Pitt, and you have Alabama.

Out West: Texas cities are bluer than rural Massachusetts. Eastern California, Oregon, and WA State; we see the same thing in reverse. Those areas are some of the reddest areas in the country. Go deep South. Atl is not like the rest of Georgia, nor is Savannah.

Very few multi-million person metropolitan areas vote R. We have what? Maybe Orange County in California; Cincinnati, Ohio; Orlando, Fl (maybe) and perhaps one or two more that can be counted as Red.

That's not untrue.

Just remember that the "red" areas and "blue" areas are not 100%. I live in a very red area overall, but the extremists are not huge in number. Most here are of the "leans R" type. They probably did vote for Trump, but I don't know how much they really support the clown. Many in this country are just ritual R or D lever pullers.
 
What was that tweet yesterday from that Right Winger? Oh, yeah, "Kill people opposed to Trump."
https://boingboing.net/2018/07/19/former-senior-cia-official-say.html
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Will it get to that? :shrug:

What it will get to though is a more fragmented America. Balkanization is what tears apart a lot of countries.

That guy's wife still works for the Deep State, err, CIA. I thought Obama sent all Trump supporters to FEMA death camps? Alex Jones had pics of the coffins!!!
 
That's not untrue.

Just remember that the "red" areas and "blue" areas are not 100%. I live in a very red area overall, but the extremists are not huge in number. Most here are of the "leans R" type. They probably did vote for Trump, but I don't know how much they really support the clown. Many in this country are just ritual R or D lever pullers.

Definitely not 100%. I live in a rural blue zone, for example, while the largest suburbs near us are all deep red. But, those are anomalies. And, of course, there are always sprinkles of dem voters even in the heart of Trump country and vice versa.
 
I already highlighted the crap. You can't seem to respond to that. That's fine. I'll take that as an admission you're simply trolling. It's not like I didn't know it. I just wanted to point it out. I do that every once in a while. Had you been genuinely interested in the content of the article, you wouldn't have started the thread in the manner you did.

I quoted facts. You went all "I" and "my" with your initial response. The rest of your responses appear to be following up on that butthurt.

Obviously you are having trouble separating yourself from the issue. :shrug:
 
Actually, the article in the op explains why the D are having a hard time with the transition. After all, they are shifting from being a blue collar white union Party to a more educated multicultural urban one. In other words, the D are gentrifying.

Meanwhile the GOP has hate to fall back on. And, of course, the corrupt big-monied interests never left them. So, they mop up with racial resentments and fear while pulling in huge campaign cash to run misleading ads.

Case in point:
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...-said-black-people-have-entitlement-mentality
 
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