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The rainbow was originally a Jewish and Christian symbol until the LGBT community hijacked it.

Did I misunderstand you? When do you think the first rain fell when Noah was present for it? How long was that after the planet was formed?

I never said I could prove that. And you can’t prove your side either. I’m just saying you have to be open-minded about hearing other viewpoints and not just research what you agree with.


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I never said I could prove that. And you can’t prove your side either. I’m just saying you have to be open-minded about hearing other viewpoints and not just research what you agree with.


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Sorry I thought I was replying to one of the other posters, but what I said to while addressing them with this post I stand firm.


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How could that be when the 1st rainfall was in Noah's day? Before that time there was only a mist to replenish the vegetation...Genesis 1:9-13; 2:5, 6...

Your talking fairy tales, stick to the science, you won't look so foolish.
 
Actually I’ve read of scientists that disagree on the age of the earth. Watch the movie “Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed”. I can also see that you are going by bias yourself. You’ve obviously only read a narrow range of scientists. The only certain science that can conclusively be proven is mathematics. All other sciences are subjective in one form or another.


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Thanks for the recommendation. I'll add it to my queue.

This might speak to you:

https://www.letu.edu/academics/arts-and-sciences/files/age-of-earth.pdf
 
Your talking fairy tales, stick to the science, you won't look so foolish.

Why is it that liberals only like to make fun of Christianity and sometimes Judaism and not any other faith? The never go after Islam or Buddhism, Hinduism or anything like that. I guess it’s not PC to do so so they abstain.


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Did I misunderstand you? When do you think the first rain fell when Noah was present for it? How long was that after the planet was formed?

Who knows when the planet was formed? The Bible doesn't tell us and I wasn't there...the earth is, so the scientists say, 4 1/2+ billion years old...mankind, on the other hand is much younger...according to the Bible, 6,000+ years old...
 
Why is it that liberals only like to make fun of Christianity and sometimes Judaism and not any other faith? The never go after Islam or Buddhism, Hinduism or anything like that. I guess it’s not PC to do so so they abstain.


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Awww poor little persucuted Christian. Your tears don't help your cause. What a bunch of ******s the Right has become.
 
Why steal a symbol that belong's to a faith? The rainbow was a symbol of when Noah left the ark and saw the first rainbow. It's funny that the PC culture would never steal a symbol that belongs to Islam. Find your own original symbol. Don't steal one that belongs to another group. It doesn't even have to be Judaism or Christianity. Find something that doesn't belong to another group.

Hey, why didn't Noah save them thar Unicorns?
 
Again that’s subjective. You showing that you think it’s not up for debate is not showing any open-mindedness. You weren’t there to see it happen, and no one else has either.


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I didn't have to be at the creation of the earth to know when it happened. We know that it happened. That is the fact. "The earth was formed at some time in the past." A hypothesis might be, "The earth is less than one million years old." Given our current ability for radiometric dating (not carbon testing), the statement, "The earth is 4.54 billions years old," becomes a provable theory and thus, a law. Laws are not subjective and do not allow "open-mindedness."
 
Why is it that liberals only like to make fun of Christianity and sometimes Judaism and not any other faith? The never go after Islam or Buddhism, Hinduism or anything like that. I guess it’s not PC to do so so they abstain.


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Actually, I make fun of all stupid belief systems. It's in my nature.
 
Why is it that liberals only like to make fun of Christianity and sometimes Judaism and not any other faith? The never go after Islam or Buddhism, Hinduism or anything like that. I guess it’s not PC to do so so they abstain.


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My opinions about the usefulness and rationality of religion are the same for every religion. There are differences within each religion, but they all share a common core.
 
Hey, why didn't Noah save them thar Unicorns?

Well, if you have that crazy KJV...:2razz:

"Save me from the lion’s mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns." Psalm 22:21

"He maketh them also to skip like a calf; Lebanon and Sirion like a young unicorn." Psalm 29:6

"But my horn shalt thou exalt like the horn of an unicorn: I shall be anointed with fresh oil." Psalm 92:10
 
Who knows when the planet was formed? The Bible doesn't tell us and I wasn't there...the earth is, so the scientists say, 4 1/2+ billion years old...mankind, on the other hand is much younger...according to the Bible, 6,000+ years old...

So you think it didn't rain for the first 99.8% of the earth's existence?
 
Keep in mind...that is just not true...we DO NOT celebrate Christmas in any way shape or form...we DO NOT celebrate any holidays...we do observe Jesus' evening meal on the day of his death, Niacin 14 33 CE...that is it...nothing else, nado, zip, zero...do we have parties and get-togethers just because? Of course we do, but to observe a certain day, year after year, uh no...some couples do celebrate their anniversaries of marriage, some don't...but that's it...nothing else...also keep in mind, there are some JW's who are JW's in name only, like with anything in life...;)

No True Christian fallacy, to paraphrase things?

Would commemorate be a better word? Do you not go through Advent, and Passover? Concentrate more on the Christ's birth in the winter and his resurrection in the spring?
 
It would not be fair to tell Dorothy never to sing Somewhere Over The Rainbow anymore.

 
I knew that and I NEVER have been a Jehovah's Witness. I also happen to know they don't even celebrate birthdays. The farthest they would go with that is when someone says "Happy birthday" to them they will say "Thank you" but nothing further, including celebrating, ever happen.

I think part of the problem is that, maybe, I am not being clear on how I am using celebrate. Like there is this conflation with partying or something, that is not actually present in my use.

cel·e·brate /ˈseləˌbrāt/
verb
verb: celebrate; 3rd person present: celebrates; past tense: celebrated; past participle: celebrated; gerund or present participle: celebrating
1. acknowledge (a significant or happy day or event) with a social gathering or enjoyable activity.
"they were celebrating their wedding anniversary at a restaurant"
Similar:
commemorate
observe
honor

mark
recognize
acknowledge
remember
memorialize
keep


2. perform (a religious ceremony) publicly and duly, in particular officiate at (the Eucharist).
"he celebrated holy communion"
Similar:
perform
observe

officiate at
preside at
solemnize
ceremonialize


3.
honor or praise publicly.
"a film celebrating the actor's career"
Similar:
praise
laud
extol
glorify
eulogize
reverence
honor

Full disclosure, I deleted some of the similar words that were not in keeping with my personal intended use. The bold is closer to my idea of use than what wasn't bolded.

Does that change the perception of what I was saying, or was I clear on what I actually meant and was still remembering wrong/misunderstanding the ones who explained such to me? This is aimed at @Elvira as well.
 
No True Christian fallacy, to paraphrase things?

Would commemorate be a better word? Do you not go through Advent, and Passover? Concentrate more on the Christ's birth in the winter and his resurrection in the spring?

No, none of it...we adhere to the Bible strictly...the only day Jesus told his followers to observe is the memorial of his death...

"Also, he took a loaf, gave thanks, broke it, and gave it to them, saying: “This means my body, which is to be given in your behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me.” Luke 22:19
 
I think part of the problem is that, maybe, I am not being clear on how I am using celebrate. Like there is this conflation with partying or something, that is not actually present in my use.



Full disclosure, I deleted some of the similar words that were not in keeping with my personal intended use. The bold is closer to my idea of use than what wasn't bolded.

Does that change the perception of what I was saying, or was I clear on what I actually meant and was still remembering wrong/misunderstanding the ones who explained such to me? This is aimed at @Elvira as well.

No, that doesn't change a thing...
 
Did I misunderstand you? When do you think the first rain fell when Noah was present for it? How long was that after the planet was formed?

Think about this. If the flood was when the first rain was going to come about, how would Noah even know what rain was when God told him it would rain for 40 days and 40 nights? It's one of those questions right up there with how did God add pain to childbirth if there hadn't been childbirth to start with?

Also, rainbows can be observed in mist conditions depending upon the density of the mist? Are you making a claim that after the flood was the only time man truly saw the sun for the first time?
 
No, none of it...we adhere to the Bible strictly...the only day Jesus told his followers to observe is the memorial of his death...

"Also, he took a loaf, gave thanks, broke it, and gave it to them, saying: “This means my body, which is to be given in your behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me.” Luke 22:19

You'll need a little more context than that, to show that such was the only observance he told them to keep. For that matter they, themselves, were observing the Passover AND continued to do so afterwards. While the first Christians didn't celebrate Christmas or Easter per se, they still observed most if not all of the Jewish Sabbats for at least a few generations afterwards.
 
No, that doesn't change a thing...

So you do not recognize the Birth or the Resurrection in any way, shape, or form, short of a shoulder shrug and "eh, it happened."?
 
You'll need a little more context than that, to show that such was the only observance he told them to keep. For that matter they, themselves, were observing the Passover AND continued to do so afterwards. While the first Christians didn't celebrate Christmas or Easter per se, they still observed most if not all of the Jewish Sabbats for at least a few generations afterwards.

If you find one, let me know...Jewish observances ended with Jesus' death, as did the Mosaic Law Covenant...Christians entered into a new Covenant with Jesus Christ on that very night...

“However, you are the ones who have stuck with me in my trials; and I make a covenant with you, just as my Father has made a covenant with me, for a kingdom,'" Luke 22:28,29
 
So you do not recognize the Birth or the Resurrection in any way, shape, or form, short of a shoulder shrug and "eh, it happened."?

No...it happened but evidently Jesus didn't think it was important because he never mentioned it..we don't even know the date...we do know it is NOT December 25th...we know the date of his death because that is what he commanded us to observe...
 
I already said there was a mist over the earth...

Not mist. The earth itself, including its canyons and river beds, indicate that it has been raining for about 4 billion years. So Noah could not have been present for the first rain unless he lived 4 billion years ago. And it is impossible that Noah was alive 4 billions years ago.
 
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