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The Purpose Of The Bill Of Rights

vegas giants said:
Commerce clause is not a new power
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The limitations of the commerce clause has been explained to you. Interstate commerce does not involve intrastate commerce, which you extol.
 
Tennyson said:
The limitations of the commerce clause has been explained to you. Interstate commerce does not involve intrastate commerce, which you extol.
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Well actually it does. The wheat you grow in your state can affect wheat prices in other states. Ask Wickard....LOL
 
vegas giants said:
Well actually it does. The wheat you grow in your state can affect wheat prices in other states. Ask Wickard....LOL
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That is not the purpose or intent of the commerce clause. That is what the commie FDR did with the clause.

How about you defend the constitutionality of Wickard.
 
Tennyson said:
That is not the purpose or intent of the commerce clause. That is what the commie FDR did with the clause.

How about you defend the constitutionality of Wickard.
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Well actually FDR was not on the supreme court. LOL

I did already. How many times do you need to hear it?
 
vegas giants said:
Well actually FDR was not on the supreme court. LOL

I did already. How many times do you need to hear it?
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It was his court that was hand-picked to specifically usurp the Constitution.

You have not defended the constitutional merits of the case. To do that, you would need to make an argument based on history and intent that contradicts my earlier post regarding the commerce clause. You have not. Do you need me to re-post it?
 
Tennyson said:
It was his court that was hand-picked to specifically usurp the Constitution.

You have not defended the constitutional merits of the case. To do that, you would need to make an argument based on history and intent that contradicts my earlier post regarding the commerce clause. You have not. Do you need me to re-post it?
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Does congress have the authority to regulate commerce amoung the states? Does the wheat you grow in your state have the potential to affect the price of wheat in other states? It is such a clear case anyone can understand it. Have you read the commerce clause? I don't know how to make it clearer. It certainly was clear to scotus. Did FDR appoint every justice for the last 80 years? Because they could overturn it at any time.

Come on man.....this stuff is easy
 
vegas giants said:
Does congress have the authority to regulate commerce amoung the states? Does the wheat you grow in your state have the potential to affect the price of wheat in other states? It is such a clear case anyone can understand it. Have you read the commerce clause? I don't know how to make it clearer. It certainly was clear to scotus. Did FDR appoint every justice for the last 80 years? Because they could overturn it at any time.

Come on man.....this stuff is easy
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ou have not defended the constitutional merits of the case. To do that, you would need to make an argument based on history and intent that contradicts my earlier post regarding the commerce clause. You have not. Do you need me to re-post it
 
Tennyson said:
ou have not defended the constitutional merits of the case. To do that, you would need to make an argument based on history and intent that contradicts my earlier post regarding the commerce clause. You have not. Do you need me to re-post it
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Does congress have the right to regulate commerce between the states? Does the wheat you grow in your state have the ability to affect the price of wheat in other states. It is that simple. Answer the questions.


Watch this folks. LOL
 
vegas giants said:
Does congress have the right to regulate commerce between the states? Does the wheat you grow in your state have the ability to affect the price of wheat in other states. It is that simple. Answer the questions.


Watch this folks. LOL
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That is not what regulating commerce means.
 
vegas giants said:
See folks! You can't make this stuff up.


Prove it
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he's right and you are wrong

regulation of commerce in the constitution is among the states [intrastate], meaning the federal government has the power to regulate state laws, which might effect other states.

before the constitution states were in engaged in trade wars and barriers with other states which was bringing commerce to a standstill in America.

the states delegated a power to the federal government to put those wars and barriers to an end

you have no idea what you are talking about, you stated "the wheat you grow in your state have the ability to affect the price of wheat in other states"

the clause is "among the states", not "among the people"

the constitution is about federalism, the separations of powers, not about the lives of the people
 
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Master PO said:
he's right and you are wrong

regulation of commerce in the constitution is among the states [intrastate], meaning the federal government has the power to regulate state laws, which might effect other states.

before the constitution states were in engaged in trade wars and barriers with other states which was bringing commerce to a standstill in America.

the states delegated a power to the federal government to put those wars and barriers to an end

you have no idea what you are talking about, you stated "the wheat you grow in your state have the ability to affect the price of wheat in other states"

the clause is "among the states", not "among the people"
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Scotus disagrees and has for over 80 years. States are lines on a map. Commerce is ALWAYS between people
 
vegas giants said:
Scotus disagrees and has for over 80 years. States are lines on a map. Commerce is ALWAYS between people
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you screwed up when you said" the wheat you grow", because the clause is "among the states"

you have been found incorrect on your interpretation
 
Master PO said:
you screwed up when you said" the wheat you grow", because the clause is "among the states"

you have been found incorrect on your interpretation
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States are lines on a map. Commerce is ALWAYS between people. Have a problem with it? Take your case to scotus. Oh no one has done that for over 80 years? I wonder why. LOL
 
vegas giants said:
States are lines on a map. Commerce is ALWAYS between people. Have a problem with it? Take your case to scotus. Oh no one has done that for over 80 years? I wonder why. LOL
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lol

clearly you have no idea, again it is among the states, not among the people

so again your interpretation is wrong, and you will continue to be wrong!
 
Master PO said:
lol

clearly you have no idea, again it is among the states, not among the people

so again your interpretation is wrong, and you will continue to be wrong!
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Name a form of commerce that does not involve people.

That is hilarious!
 
vegas giants said:
Name a form of commerce that does not involve people.

That is hilarious!
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what cant you read!

ok here it is again for you:

before the constitution states were in engaged in trade wars and barriers with other states which was bringing commerce to a standstill in America.

the states delegated a power to the federal government to put those wars and barriers to an end.

the states were making laws causing those commerce problems......citizens don't make laws, governments do!
 
Master PO said:
what cant you read!

ok here it is again for you:

before the constitution states were in engaged in trade wars and barriers with other states which was bringing commerce to a standstill in America.

the states delegated a power to the federal government to put those wars and barriers to an end.

the states were making laws causing those commerce problems......citizens don't make laws, governments do!
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A government is not made up of citizens? People do not make the laws? Really? LOL
 
vegas giants said:
Scotus disagrees and has for over 80 years. States are lines on a map. Commerce is ALWAYS between people
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The argument is not about a Supreme Court opinion; it is about the Constitution and the intent and history of the commerce clause.
 
Master PO said:
then you should not have made a stupid statement of "the wheat you grow", because it showed you have no idea what you are talking about
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Good. So we agree the commerce clause is about regulating commerce between people.

I agree
 
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