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The psychology of climate change denial

Sunsettommy said:
Eemian Interglacial period, the one that preceded the current interglacial period.

It is clear you didn't know that.

Carry on.....
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Oh I remember that. Mickey mantle was on the Yankees. Good times
 
vegas giants said:
The rate of ice loss has risen from 33 billion tonnes per year in the 1990s to 254 billion tonnes per year in the last decade—a seven-fold increase within three decades.
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So the 375Gt/yr as in the economist, Apr 29th 2017, was talking drivel back then?

It is a simple yes or no.
 
vegas giants said:
Oh I remember that. Mickey mantle was on the Yankees. Good times
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Eemian Interglacial period, the one that preceded the current interglacial period.

It is clear you didn't know that, to which you make clear with your stupid baseball comeback.

Meanwhile here is the paper that stated Greenland melted way back in the Eemian interglacial (The interglacial period you never heard of before 15 minutes ago :lol:)

NATURE

Eemian interglacial reconstructed from a Greenland folded ice core

Abstract

Efforts to extract a Greenland ice core with a complete record of the Eemian interglacial (130,000 to 115,000 years ago) have until now been unsuccessful. The response of the Greenland ice sheet to the warmer-than-present climate of the Eemian has thus remained unclear. Here we present the new North Greenland Eemian Ice Drilling (‘NEEM’) ice core and show only a modest ice-sheet response to the strong warming in the early Eemian. We reconstructed the Eemian record from folded ice using globally homogeneous parameters known from dated Greenland and Antarctic ice-core records. On the basis of water stable isotopes, NEEM surface temperatures after the onset of the Eemian (126,000 years ago) peaked at 8 ± 4 degrees Celsius above the mean of the past millennium, followed by a gradual cooling that was probably driven by the decreasing summer insolation. Between 128,000 and 122,000 years ago, the thickness of the northwest Greenland ice sheet decreased by 400 ± 250 metres, reaching surface elevations 122,000 years ago of 130 ± 300 metres lower than the present. Extensive surface melt occurred at the NEEM site during the Eemian, a phenomenon witnessed when melt layers formed again at NEEM during the exceptional heat of July 2012. With additional warming, surface melt might become more common in the future.

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Now you just learned something new that destroys the "we are in trouble because a tiny amount of Greenland is currently melting" trope......

:lol:
 
Sunsettommy said:
Eemian Interglacial period, the one that preceded the current interglacial period.

It is clear you didn't know that, to which you make clear with your stupid baseball comeback.

Meanwhile here is the paper that stated Greenland melted way back in the Eemian interglacial (The interglacial period you never heard of before 15 minutes ago :lol:)

NATURE

Eemian interglacial reconstructed from a Greenland folded ice core

Abstract

Efforts to extract a Greenland ice core with a complete record of the Eemian interglacial (130,000 to 115,000 years ago) have until now been unsuccessful. The response of the Greenland ice sheet to the warmer-than-present climate of the Eemian has thus remained unclear. Here we present the new North Greenland Eemian Ice Drilling (‘NEEM’) ice core and show only a modest ice-sheet response to the strong warming in the early Eemian. We reconstructed the Eemian record from folded ice using globally homogeneous parameters known from dated Greenland and Antarctic ice-core records. On the basis of water stable isotopes, NEEM surface temperatures after the onset of the Eemian (126,000 years ago) peaked at 8 ± 4 degrees Celsius above the mean of the past millennium, followed by a gradual cooling that was probably driven by the decreasing summer insolation. Between 128,000 and 122,000 years ago, the thickness of the northwest Greenland ice sheet decreased by 400 ± 250 metres, reaching surface elevations 122,000 years ago of 130 ± 300 metres lower than the present. Extensive surface melt occurred at the NEEM site during the Eemian, a phenomenon witnessed when melt layers formed again at NEEM during the exceptional heat of July 2012. With additional warming, surface melt might become more common in the future.

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Now you just learned something new that destroys the "we are in trouble because a tiny amount of Greenland is currently melting" trope......

:lol:
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That's cool dude. Not sure why I should care though. 126,000 years ago? Lol
 
vegas giants said:
That's cool dude. Not sure why I should care though. 126,000 years ago? Lol
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On the basis of water stable isotopes, NEEM surface temperatures after the onset of the Eemian (126,000 years ago) peaked at 8 ± 4 degrees Celsius above the mean of the past millennium, followed by a gradual cooling that was probably driven by the decreasing summer insolation. Between 128,000 and 122,000 years ago, the thickness of the northwest Greenland ice sheet decreased by 400 ± 250 metres, reaching surface elevations 122,000 years ago of 130 ± 300 metres lower than the present.
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Try thinking for a change.....................
 
vegas giants said:
I did. So do the guys at NASA. They think this is a problem.



But we should listen to you. Lol
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Try reading the NATURE published paper instead:

On the basis of water stable isotopes, NEEM surface temperatures after the onset of the Eemian (126,000 years ago) peaked at 8 ± 4 degrees Celsius above the mean of the past millennium, followed by a gradual cooling that was probably driven by the decreasing summer insolation. Between 128,000 and 122,000 years ago, the thickness of the northwest Greenland ice sheet decreased by 400 ± 250 metres, reaching surface elevations 122,000 years ago of 130 ± 300 metres lower than the present.

bolding mine

Try again, that unused brain process, "thinking"
 
Sunsettommy said:
Try reading the NATURE published paper instead:

On the basis of water stable isotopes, NEEM surface temperatures after the onset of the Eemian (126,000 years ago) peaked at 8 ± 4 degrees Celsius above the mean of the past millennium, followed by a gradual cooling that was probably driven by the decreasing summer insolation. Between 128,000 and 122,000 years ago, the thickness of the northwest Greenland ice sheet decreased by 400 ± 250 metres, reaching surface elevations 122,000 years ago of 130 ± 300 metres lower than the present.

bolding mine

Try again, that unused brain process, "thinking"
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Wow you discovered something no science agency on the planet has! Lol
 
ocean515 said:
The limits of your ability to reply with something intelligent is noted for now, and for future reference.
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Like this?

Sunsettommy said:
Try reading the NATURE published paper instead:

On the basis of water stable isotopes, NEEM surface temperatures after the onset of the Eemian (126,000 years ago) peaked at 8 ± 4 degrees Celsius above the mean of the past millennium, followed by a gradual cooling that was probably driven by the decreasing summer insolation. Between 128,000 and 122,000 years ago, the thickness of the northwest Greenland ice sheet decreased by 400 ± 250 metres, reaching surface elevations 122,000 years ago of 130 ± 300 metres lower than the present.

bolding mine

Try again, that unused brain process, "thinking"
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vegas giants said:
Dude pick a source.


The economist??? Lol
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So you deny that the figure for net ice mass change for Greenland has been ~400Gt/yr in the general discussion in the past?

I could get other citations if I thought you were at all capable of adult debate but what is the point?
 
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