The officers are innocent of all charges

[vegas giants]

The 2 trainees should never have been arrested. Discharged from the force since they could never safely be officers there. The other veteran? I don't see a crime.

The one with his knee on Floyd's neck in violation of policy? Something like MAYBE reckless endangerment, abuse of power, or civil rights violation if they MUST get a conviction. There is no murder case here. Murder means you meant to kill someone at the time you did, with premeditation not charged and the highest offense.

There is NOTHING to indicate the officer meant to kill Floyd, literally nothing.

HOWEVER, DAs often over charge police as the way to get not guilty verdicts. The DA has incentive to do so because the city is going to get sued for tens of millions of dollars and convictions prove liability. This is a common tactic by prosecutors in cases involving the police. They prosecute - but overcharge to get an acquittal.

All four guilty of murder

 

[Lex Talionis]

Do not answer a fool according to his folly,
Or you will also be like him.
Answer a fool as his folly deserves,
That he not be wise in his own eyes.

Seems appropriate.

 

[mike2810]

The racism of your message is noted.

George Floyd died of a heart attack.

Why bother with a trial? All 4, including 2 trainees of less than 1 week who did nothing other than tell the officer he shouldn't be doing what he's doing. All 4 have been locked up in solitary confinement as if already found guilty with a massive bond set to keep them locked up.

They have NO case against 3 of them, but will explain to them the ONLY way to get out of jail is to plead guilty to something. Otherwise, they are going to stay in torturous solitary for months or over a year. Or threaten to put them in general population where minimally they will be nearly beat to death or killed. The Supreme Court has ruled police have no duty to protect anyone. 3 of them did not harm Floyd in the slightest. 2 of them had no more than FOUR DAYS of training.

Sorry to interrupt you racist ranting that so many white progressives like to do, pretending they are black and that they actually give a damn, when you and they don't. You just repeat what the super rich tell you to think and say on TV that they own.

Can you quote the medical examiners report that states it was a "heart attack". I don't recall either report stating that.

 

[vegas giants]

Can you quote the medical examiners report that states it was a "heart attack". I don't recall either report stating that.

That's because he made it up

 

[mike2810]

That's because he made it up

Yep. Like most of his post is an opinion rant.

 

[joko104]

All four guilty of murder

Are you claiming the 3 day experience trainee who told the officer he shouldn't have his knee on Floyd's neck is guilt of murder for not shooting his supervisor in the head to stop him?

You don't give a damn if any of the 4 are guilty of anything. You love the riots, looting, burning and otherwise destroying the minority area of your city hoping to run off as many non-white people as possible. We know where white man you was. Hiding in your home.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Yeah, that's why you kneel on some guy's neck for 9 minutes...cause he was asking for it!

red flags. a bunch of people are showing their true selves.

 

[vegas giants]

Are you claiming the 3 day experience trainee who told the officer he shouldn't have his knee on Floyd's neck is guilt of murder for not shooting his supervisor in the head to stop him?

You don't give a damn if any of the 4 are guilty of anything. You love the riots, looting, burning and otherwise destroying the minority area of your city hoping to run off as many non-white people as possible. We know where white man you was. Hiding in your home.

Look you hate black people so all you can do is defend his killers.


We get it


They are murderers

 

[CaughtInThe]

Please stop. Please, in the name of humanity.

i've been doing my part since the 80s (and i'm almost 60 now). i've been telling people about a lot of these people and what's truly in their hearts.

they confide in me at times. i look like them and live in the South. it's the front door.

 

[Olddemocrat]

Reading your last two posts, I wonder if one can get a prescription for paranoia pills. Otherwise, you have stumbled on a massive conspiracy involving media, super rich, police departments, Democratic Party, many republicans, the DA’s office, and coroner all in pursuit of some evil agenda which you will no doubt reveal in time.

Somehow, I think even the officers’ defense attorneys would excuse you from the jury in this case.

Yeah, in the words of bugs bunny, "what a maroon!".

 

[joko104]

That's because he made it up

Lying is the #1 Democratic tactic and one you use on the forum.

An autopsy released by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner on Wednesday showed that George Floyd officially died from a heart attack. The medical examiner, Dr. Andrew Baker, concluded in Wednesday's report that Floyd died of a heart attack complicated by restrained and compressed by the neck.

While the autopsy indicated several blunt-force injuries, the examiner said that there were no life-threatening injuries identified.

The report noted that Floyd had hypertensive heart disease.

The autopsy showed that Floyd had tested positive for the coronavirus on April 3. The report said that the autopsy result likely reflects an asymptomatic but persistent infection from the virus. (Despite knowing this, Floyd wore no mask.)


It also indicated that Floyd had fentanyl and methamphetamines in his system at the time of death.

Medical examiner releases autopsy report on George Floyd, differs from family’s independent autopsy

Floyd had a bad heart. He had covid-19, which can damage the heart. Fentanyl and meth can cause heart attacks. He died of a heart attack.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Look you hate black people so all you can do is defend his killers.


We get it


They are murderers

i love that people drop their pretending when events like this happen. they can't help it. it's too emotional for them.

 

[trouble13]

Yep. Like most of his post is an opinion rant.

What if his opinions are accurate?

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[vegas giants]

Lying is the #1 Democratic tactic and one you use on the forum.

An autopsy released by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner on Wednesday showed that George Floyd officially died from a heart attack. The medical examiner, Dr. Andrew Baker, concluded in Wednesday's report that Floyd died of a heart attack complicated by restrained and compressed by the neck.

While the autopsy indicated several blunt-force injuries, the examiner said that there were no life-threatening injuries identified.

The report noted that Floyd had hypertensive heart disease.

The autopsy showed that Floyd had tested positive for the coronavirus on April 3. The report said that the autopsy result likely reflects an asymptomatic but persistent infection from the virus. (Despite knowing this, Floyd wore no mask.)


It also indicated that Floyd had fentanyl and methamphetamines in his system at the time of death.

Medical examiner releases autopsy report on George Floyd, differs from family’s independent autopsy

Floyd had a bad heart. He had covid-19, which can damage the heart. Fentanyl and meth can cause heart attacks. He died of a heart attack.

He was murdered. Ask the DA

 

[trouble13]

Look you hate black people so all you can do is defend his killers.


We get it


They are murderers

So anyone who does not agree with you is a racist?
I dont agree with joko either but he is making a decent argument.

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[dairyair]

Who then posted the real video.
The one where the police officer is not kneeling on back o neck for almost 9 minuets?

Anyone here post it?

Or is this OP another in the list of tRUMPisms?

 

[vegas giants]

So anyone who does not agree with you is a racist?
I dont agree with joko either but he is making a decent argument.

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He said I love riots and looting.


Do you agree with that too?

 

[dairyair]

Lying is the #1 Democratic tactic and one you use on the forum.

An autopsy released by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner on Wednesday showed that George Floyd officially died from a heart attack. The medical examiner, Dr. Andrew Baker, concluded in Wednesday's report that Floyd died of a heart attack complicated by restrained and compressed by the neck.

While the autopsy indicated several blunt-force injuries, the examiner said that there were no life-threatening injuries identified.

The report noted that Floyd had hypertensive heart disease.

The autopsy showed that Floyd had tested positive for the coronavirus on April 3. The report said that the autopsy result likely reflects an asymptomatic but persistent infection from the virus. (Despite knowing this, Floyd wore no mask.)


It also indicated that Floyd had fentanyl and methamphetamines in his system at the time of death.

Medical examiner releases autopsy report on George Floyd, differs from family’s independent autopsy

Floyd had a bad heart. He had covid-19, which can damage the heart. Fentanyl and meth can cause heart attacks. He died of a heart attack.

I never ever figured you for a Democrat. Or posting that is a lie.
tRUMP never stops lying. So I assume his supporters do similar?

 

[Napoleon]

There is no justification for the methods used to restrain Floyd. If he had a heart attack, which the independent autopsy ruled out, it was from the strain of 9 minutes of full-body pressure on his neck. I have seen a lot of edited videos and false narratives the last few years. This one may not be the full story, but it doesnt change the reality of this murder.

It changes things for me. The video all by itself is a good case for murder three. But it’s not so clear cut when the autopsy and toxicology reports are considered. The medical examiner concluded that the officer’s actions were a contributing factor in the context of an active heart attack and respiratory distress and both are indicative of a fatal overdose. The man had more than 5 times the level of fentanyl considered potentially fatal in his system - something the hired medical examiner didn’t even look for.

It’s doubtful to me that Floyd would have survived the encounter even if the police had rolled out the red carpet and treated him like a star. The fact the police called for paramedics within a minute of restraining him suggests they suspected something was medically wrong with him at the outset. But now I have to ask whether his death was a foreseeable consequence of the officer’s actions or if it would have happened at all if not for Floyd’s fatal overdose of fentanyl. It’s looking less like murder and more like manslaughter.

 

[mike2810]

What if his opinions are accurate?

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Then facts would back up what was posted.

So did the medical examiners reports say Floyd died of a "heart attack"

 

[dairyair]

So anyone who does not agree with you is a racist?
I dont agree with joko either but he is making a decent argument.

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An argument without proof is an opinion.
And there is near 9 minutes of video, uninterrupted of a police officer kneeling on a black man's neck until he went unconscious.

What happened prior loses relevancy when that happens and the person dies as a result.

There were 4 officers there. The man was in handcuffs. There wasn't a whole lot he could do against 4 trained officers. Especially to justify near 9 minutes of limiting blood flow to the brain.

 

[trouble13]

He said I love riots and looting.


Do you agree with that too?

I was talking about his reasoning of why the cop was basically in the right.

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[trouble13]

Then facts would back up what was posted.

So did the medical examiners reports say Floyd died of a "heart attack"

I believe it did conclude that but thats somewhat misleading because what the defenses coroner is arguing is that it was caused by the hold on his neck.

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[joko104]

I was talking about his reasoning of why the cop was basically in the right.

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Hyperbole for hyperbole.

 

[trouble13]

An argument without proof is an opinion.
And there is near 9 minutes of video, uninterrupted of a police officer kneeling on a black man's neck until he went unconscious.

What happened prior loses relevancy when that happens and the person dies as a result.

There were 4 officers there. The man was in handcuffs. There wasn't a whole lot he could do against 4 trained officers. Especially to justify near 9 minutes of limiting blood flow to the brain.

Thats ridiculous to say what led up to those 9 min is irrelevant without knowing what happened.

Me personally Im having a hard time getting past pulling him out of the car but I do see where joko is coming from as well

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