The New York Times Anti-Kavanaugh Bombshell Is Actually a Dud

[SkyFox76]

It was. none of the witnesses could corroborate their stories nor could any of the people they named and at least 2 or 3 people should have been brought up
on filing false police reports and lying to congress.

Great, then I'm sure that's what the FBI will show everyone.

 

[VanceMack]

Pretty sure that's what investigations are for.

I'm getting a good laugh here over the fact people are falling all over themselves both directions.

If you believe the FBI did a thorough job. That they indeed talked to Stier then it's dead in the water from the first drip.

She didnt know the day of the week, the month, or even the year.
She didnt know where the house was or who's house it was.
She cant remember how she got there.
She changed her story NUMEROUS times about why the event suddenly became triggered.
She changed her story about what happened or who did what.
She changed her story numerous time about who was present.
She changed her story about the party, finally settle on
She listed 5 other participants including one other young woman, ALL of whom state the event in question NEVER HAPPENED.
She claims she left a party where there was only two girls and NO ONE Not Iced when one of those girls suddenly vanished,
She cant remember when she got home or how she got home.

The other 6 allegations made were proven to be lies...and the liars admitted to lying.

So the only real question is...aside for pure mindless partisan bias and hatred, what do you attribute your belief that Kavanaugh was not appropriately vetted on (*besides a series of talking points that you have been spoon fed).

 

[SkyFox76]

She didnt know the day of the week, the month, or even the year.
She didnt know where the house was or who's house it was.
She cant remember how she got there.
She changed her story NUMEROUS times about why the event suddenly became triggered.
She changed her story about what happened or who did what.
She changed her story numerous time about who was present.
She changed her story about the party, finally settle on
She listed 5 other participants including one other young woman, ALL of whom state the event in question NEVER HAPPENED.
She claims she left a party where there was only two girls and NO ONE Not Iced when one of those girls suddenly vanished,
She cant remember when she got home or how she got home.

The other 6 allegations made were proven to be lies...and the liars admitted to lying.

So the only real question is...aside for pure mindless partisan bias and hatred, what do you attribute your belief that Kavanaugh was not appropriately vetted on (*besides a series of talking points that you have been spoon fed).

I would hope you understand what's being discussed now isn't about Ford. You can also look at where I stood after the investigation. I took no issues with the confirmation. Until yesterday, I hadn't given it one instant of thought one way or the other.

If the investigation was done properly then all of this hooplah is a waste of time. I'm sure Kavanaugh wanted it dead and buried, but I think the president will make it his new pet project until something else comes up.

 

[CharisRose]

Its funny you completely ignored the fact that I said they either did or didn't.

I'll repeat this for you again.

If the FBI questioned Stier then it should be simple to validate and prove he's lying about not being contacted. END of the claims, done deal.

I told you in a previous posts that I understood your use of the two sides of the coin. To clarify one side was a did and the other side was a didn't. So, I did not ignore your coin symbolism.

My only point was that you can not prove which side of the coin is based on facts.

Plus, you seem to be very concerned about this matter.

If, it is a simple matter to prove, then contact someone who has that kind of Authority and request that they get the deal done.

Roseann

 

[SkyFox76]

I told you in a previous posts that I understood your use of the two sides of the coin. To clarify one side was a did and the other side was a didn't. So, I did not ignore your coin symbolism.

My only point was that you can not prove which side of the coin is based on facts.

Plus, you seem to be very concerned about this matter.

If, it is a simple matter to prove, then contact someone who has that kind of Authority and request that they get the deal done.

Roseann

I'm not interested in proving what side of the coin is correct. I've not started a thread on the matter but I've given my opinion. I do see several people have been triggered over the article. Starting threads such as this one. Perhaps your time would be better spent with them. Clearly they are concerned.

 

[VanceMack]

I would hope you understand what's being discussed now isn't about Ford. You can also look at where I stood after the investigation. I took no issues with the confirmation. Until yesterday, I hadn't given it one instant of thought one way or the other.

If the investigation was done properly then all of this hooplah is a waste of time. I'm sure Kavanaugh wanted it dead and buried, but I think the president will make it his new pet project until something else comes up.

WHat is being discussed now was a little herring tossed to the fish that they could seize and run with. Its all the same ****.

The entire Ford fiasco was a lie. The 6 people that came out and made claims AFTERWARD lied. Proven. Admitted. Now there is a huffington post contributor that has made the claim that he saw something that the alleged 'victim' denies.

That makes 8 lies. 8 bull**** lies fabricated to try to derail a Supreme Court judge.

Golly...what COULD their motivation be?

More...why do people like you so eagerly slurp them down?

 

[SkyFox76]

WHat is being discussed now was a little herring tossed to the fish that they could seize and run with. Its all the same ****.

The entire Ford fiasco was a lie. The 6 people that came out and made claims AFTERWARD lied. Proven. Admitted. Now there is a huffington post contributor that has made the claim that he saw something that the alleged 'victim' denies.

That makes 8 lies. 8 bull**** lies fabricated to try to derail a Supreme Court judge.

Golly...what COULD their motivation be?

More...why do people like you so eagerly slurp them down?

Try to not twist what's being said. The alleged victim is not denying anything.

And once again if the FBI has already investigated the claims by Stier all they have to do is contact nyts, or fox or all the media across the planet and say so.

I guess you're having trouble with my saying I had no issues with the confirmation? Is that part of slurping? :lamo

 

[trixare4kids]

I'm not interested in proving what side of the coin is correct. I've not started a thread on the matter but I've given my opinion. I do see several people have been triggered over the article. Starting threads such as this one. Perhaps your time would be better spent with them. Clearly they are concerned.

Clearly, you are over your head here.
Desiring that the truth be told is not being triggered. The press has an obligation to vet what they sell to the reader. They didn't and consequently got reamed so badly by social media, (kudos to Molly Hemingway) that they were forced to issue a correction for their fake partisan narrative.

For a thread that you believe was born from emotional triggering, you're sure spending a lot of time being TrIgGerEd.

 

[VanceMack]

Try to not twist what's being said. The alleged victim is not denying anything.

And once again if the FBI has already investigated the claims by Stier all they have to do is contact nyts, or fox or all the media across the planet and say so.

I guess you're having trouble with my saying I had no issues with the confirmation? Is that part of slurping? :lamo

What do you expect the FBI to investigate?

Try this

I saw Skyfox76 do something to a kid at a playground. Mind you the kid denies it but I'm sure I saw something. Go get him!!!

You think that should be investigated? You think your life should destroyed because 7 people lied and an 8th is offering yet another unsubstantiated lie?

 

[SkyFox76]

What do you expect the FBI to investigate?

Try this

I saw Skyfox76 do something to a kid at a playground. Mind you the kid denies it but I'm sure I saw something. Go get him!!!

You think that should be investigated? You think your life should destroyed because 7 people lied and an 8th is offering yet another unsubstantiated lie?

Again, you're twisting the claims. Try this one:

A video shows VanceMack throw a ball into a kids face, the kid doesn't recall it. So are you going to now say you didn't throw that ball? Denying and not recalling are two entirely different animals.

I'm for the truth regardless of politics. I don't play according to R or D or in between. I took no issue with Kavanaugh being sworn in because I believed the FBI followed leads and came to a conclusion. Read that three or four times if you need to. If they didn't follow leads? Then yes, we should all be concerned as to why not.

 

[SkyFox76]

Clearly, you are over your head here.
Desiring that the truth be told is not being triggered. The press has an obligation to vet what they sell to the reader. They didn't and consequently got reamed so badly by social media, (kudos to Molly Hemingway) that they were forced to issue a correction for their fake partisan narrative.

For a thread that you believe was born from emotional triggering, you're sure spending a lot of time being TrIgGerEd.

:lamo I'm asking that the truth be told. How is that so hard to see for some of you? What you and a few others want is the truth to be that the FBI completely investigated and interviewed those who said they had information. If the story strays off that point, meaning that maybe they didn't, then ya'll get whipped into a frenzy screaming fake news! In the end Kavanaugh is already sworn in. You know that right?

 

[Napoleon]

Again, you're twisting the claims. Try this one:

A video shows VanceMack throw a ball into a kids face, the kid doesn't recall it. So are you going to now say you didn't throw that ball? Denying and not recalling are two entirely different animals.

I'm for the truth regardless of politics. I don't play according to R or D or in between. I took no issue with Kavanaugh being sworn in because I believed the FBI followed leads and came to a conclusion. Read that three or four times if you need to. If they didn't follow leads? Then yes, we should all be concerned as to why not.

I think the “why not” is rather obvious. A guy pops out of the woodwork and claims he saw something at a drunken frat party in 1983 that none of the people allegedly involved can corroborate. Wtf do you want the FBI to do with that?

 

[SkyFox76]

I think the “why not” is rather obvious. A guy pops out of the woodwork and claims he saw something at a drunken frat party in 1983 that none of the people allegedly involved can corroborate. Wtf do you want the FBI to do with that?

Then all the FBI has to do at this point is say "we contacted Stier, his details had no merit and could not be corroborated"

See how easy that is.

 

[VanceMack]

Again, you're twisting the claims. Try this one:

A video shows VanceMack throw a ball into a kids face, the kid doesn't recall it. So are you going to now say you didn't throw that ball? Denying and not recalling are two entirely different animals.

I'm for the truth regardless of politics. I don't play according to R or D or in between. I took no issue with Kavanaugh being sworn in because I believed the FBI followed leads and came to a conclusion. Read that three or four times if you need to. If they didn't follow leads? Then yes, we should all be concerned as to why not.

:lamo

Notice that in order to support the lie you believe you have to fabricate a lie to create a palatable example.

Produce the video...then lets talk.

 

[apdst]

Clearly, you are over your head here.
Desiring that the truth be told is not being triggered. The press has an obligation to vet what they sell to the reader. They didn't and consequently got reamed so badly by social media, (kudos to Molly Hemingway) that they were forced to issue a correction for their fake partisan narrative.

For a thread that you believe was born from emotional triggering, you're sure spending a lot of time being TrIgGerEd.

The Libbos got punked again! This is a weekly thing! :lamo

 

[Napoleon]

Then all the FBI has to do at this point is say "we contacted Stier, his details had no merit and could not be corroborated"

See how easy that is.

The FBI is giving it all the attention it deserves.

 

[SkyFox76]

:lamo

Notice that in order to support the lie you believe you have to fabricate a lie to create a palatable example.

Produce the video...then lets talk.

Then what? You still think that kid isn't a victim because he didn't remember it? You're not being honest here if you think the woman saying she doesn't recall the incident and denying it happened are the same. Kind of par for the course though.

 

[VanceMack]

Then what? You still think that kid isn't a victim because he didn't remember it? You're not being honest here if you think the woman saying she doesn't recall the incident and denying it happened are the same. Kind of par for the course though.

Address the lie you felt compelled to tell. There was no video. There is a supposed story by a left wing contributor to the Huffington Post that makes YET ANOTHER unsubstantiated claim...and you swallowed without question.

 

[SkyFox76]

Address the lie you felt compelled to tell. There was no video. There is a supposed story by a left wing contributor to the Huffington Post that makes YET ANOTHER unsubstantiated claim...and you swallowed without question.

:lamo Are you so desperate you don't realize I was making a hypothetical point to you about denial verses not remembering?

Let's address this comment from you:

Now there is a huffington post contributor that has made the claim that he saw something that the alleged 'victim' denies.

From the Federalist:

My colleague Mollie Hemingway, co-author of a bestselling non-fiction book on the affair, had a copy of “The Education of Brett Kavanaugh” and noticed that the reporters had somehow failed to mention that the alleged victim had declined to be interviewed because she didn’t recall the incident.

Fox News Headline:

NYT updates Kavanaugh 'bombshell' to note accuser doesn't recall alleged assault

Breitbart News:

The alleged victim of a previously unreported claim of sexual misconduct by Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh does not actually recall the incident — according to the same authors who published the claim Sunday.

So who is the Huffpost contributor who made the statement that she denies the incident? Or did you think not recalling and denying are interchangable? They aren't.

 

[Barnacle]

Address the lie you felt compelled to tell. There was no video. There is a supposed story by a left wing contributor to the Huffington Post that makes YET ANOTHER unsubstantiated claim...and you swallowed without question.

I admire the patience you have with some posters ...

 

[VanceMack]

:lamo Are you so desperate you don't realize I was making a hypothetical point to you about denial verses not remembering?

Let's address this comment from you:



From the Federalist:



Fox News Headline:



Breitbart News:




So who is the Huffpost contributor who made the statement that she denies the incident? Or did you think not recalling and denying are interchangable? They aren't.

:lamo

You had to fabricate a lie and you want to talk 'desperate'.

We dont have to use hypotheticals...we have facts. You eagerly swallow whatever they put in your mouth. You regurgitate this on demand. From Ford, to the 6 other ****ing liars that were caught in their lies, to this guy...you do exactly what they know you will do.

It would be funny watching you if it wasnt so ****ing tragic.

 

[ChezC3]

The whole thing was a "change the narrative" piece. After finding out that the motives of Ford were politically motivated something had to be done to change what the public was talking about. What better than to print a debunked old accusation as a fresh new allegation. It will be the talk all weekend long instead of people discussing Ford's politically motivated smear campaign, and what more did she lie about.

 

[SkyFox76]

:lamo

You had to fabricate a lie and you want to talk 'desperate'.

We dont have to use hypotheticals...we have facts. You eagerly swallow whatever they put in your mouth. You regurgitate this on demand. From Ford, to the 6 other ****ing liars that were caught in their lies, to this guy...you do exactly what they know you will do.

It would be funny watching you if it wasnt so ****ing tragic.

Well I guess it did go over your head. Deny is not the same as not recalling.

But I notice you didn't offer up proof of your previous statement. Or should I refer to it as a lie since I've looked at various sites and see no such claim?

 

[VanceMack]

Well I guess it did go over your head. Deny is not the same as not recalling.

But I notice you didn't offer up proof of your previous statement. Or should I refer to it as a lie since I've looked at various sites and see no such claim?

:lamo

No...you lied. Rather than simply admit you eagerly swallow the **** they put in your mouth, you felt the need to fabricate a lie to try to make a point.

I dont need to lie...I just need to state the truth.

You are what you are.

Sad. Very sad.

 

[SkyFox76]

:lamo

No...you lied. Rather than simply admit you eagerly swallow the **** they put in your mouth, you felt the need to fabricate a lie to try to make a point.

I dont need to lie...I just need to state the truth.

You are what you are.

Sad. Very sad.

This is what a lot of you have become under this administration. Swap out words, then scream that someone else lied or it's fake news. You chose to bring in a hypothetical playground and I upped that hypothetical situation. I've now asked you to show us where Huffpo stated the victim denied the incident. Instead of proving your claim you're dancing all over the place about a hypothetical situation. Clearly you have no source.

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