The National Enquirer, a Trump Rumor, and Another Secret Payment to Buy Silence

[danarhea]

The reasons why are plainly obvious and the historical record is now clear. There is really nothing to debate.

And the fact that Trump is President does little to convince people that he is a "great politician." The country is full of politicians who had a 50/50 shot at their offices. And the vast majority of them didn't have the convenience of a Hillary Clinton on the other side. With her receiving the popular vote and Democrats in key areas abstaining, it is a safe assumption to see that any other Democrat would have beaten Trump and that any other Republican would have destroyed Clinton.

I think you are associating only manipulation aspects to the word "politician," thus defaulting Trump into the category of great politicians. But it didn't take much to wrangle the mob who was willing to betray who they were just to show the world. Trump rode a wave of bitterness and misunderstood resentment for having to witness so many ideologies fail over the last eight years.

One must perform after achieving. And with the worst "First 100 days" in office, as recorded in history, and his administration having the greatest swinging door in history, Trump has proven not to be the great politician. Just a con man who is barely treading water.

I think you hit the nail on the head.

 

[RAMOSS]

um...

The interview was when Trump launched his campaign. The out of wedlock child was in the 1980's (supposedly) The evidence for that being true, while it meets the plausibility threshold, does not meet the actual evidence threshold.

 

[holbritter]

Trump is really bad at being a politician:



https://www.newyorker.com/news/news...ment-to-buy-silence-dino-sajudin-david-pecker

Seriously, who does this stuff? if a "rumor" is false why bury it?? It makes someone look incredibly guilty.

Yeah, the Head of Security told the doorman.

 

[MSgt]

I think you hit the nail on the head.

I like hitting things with hammers. Makes me look smart.

 

[MSgt]

Not saying it's out of the question, but it's the National Enquirer, not quite the most reliable source out there.

The actual "fake" news.

 

[NeverTrump]

The interview was when Trump launched his campaign. The out of wedlock child was in the 1980's (supposedly) The evidence for that being true, while it meets the plausibility threshold, does not meet the actual evidence threshold.

He paid off Stormy for a thing that happened in 2006 when she tried to sell her story in 2011. And this story is considerably crazier than a presidential nominee sleeping with a pornstar at some point in his past. There is no good defense for Trump if he paid someone to keep quiet if there is as you say no evidence.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

Not saying it's out of the question, but it's the National Enquirer, not quite the most reliable source out there.

I think you misunderstand what the role of the NE is in this potential story

The NE is accused of trying to quash the story instead of reporting it. It bought the rights to it and never published it (and likely never had the intent of publishing it) as to protect Trump's image before the election

 

[Fearandloathing]

"Trump is really bad at being a politician"


A bit of an odd statement.

He beat the Clinton machine, nevertrumpers, resist, and media.
Characteristic's of a great politician.

Only in the uneducated US does anyone think that beating an opponent in an election translates into a good representative of the people.

Trump narrowly won the stupid "electoral college' and lost the popular vote....what is called a "squeaker" against the weakest candidate the Democrats have ever fielded.

I realize that its a shock to find out what a piece of ****, self serving sleaze he is, but don't insult the intelligence of the non-Trump world who have known he's an incompetent asshole for years.

Name on thing he's done where he has helped the country become "great". Fighting with wives of dead soldiers, claiming falsely that 'thousands of Mulsims" cheered in New Jersey at 911, never seen by even one other human being.

Or is it in grabbing ******s, paying hush money to sex trade workers? What, besides LYING is he even good at

 

[Fearandloathing]

The reasons why are plainly obvious and the historical record is now clear. There is really nothing to debate.

And the fact that Trump is President does little to convince people that he is a "great politician." The country is full of politicians who had a 50/50 shot at their offices. And the vast majority of them didn't have the convenience of a Hillary Clinton on the other side. You may as well give credit to the guy who beat Roy Moore in Alabama because he is a "great politician," while ignoring that he won because of Roy Moore. With Clinton receiving the popular vote and Democrats in key areas abstaining, it is a safe assumption to see that any other Democrat would have beaten Trump and that any other Republican would have destroyed Clinton.

I think you are associating only manipulation aspects to the word "politician," thus defaulting Trump into the category of great politicians simply because he won his election. But it didn't take much to wrangle the mob who was willing to betray who they were just to flip off the world. Trump rode a wave of bitterness and misunderstood resentment for having to witness so many of their ideologies fail over the last eight years.

A great politician performs after achieving. And with the worst "First 100 days" in office, as recorded in history, and his administration having the greatest swinging door in history, Trump has proven not to be the great politician. Just a con man who is barely treading water, shooting from the hip, and in constant PR mode for his bad decisions and poor behavior.

Post of the month. Well said!

 

[prometeus]

Is it rumors or the KGB invasion??? You can't have it both ways.

I am not sure what you mean here, please elaborate a bit.

 

[prometeus]

Trump is president and they are not so the reason why will be debate for a long time to come.

It is a delusion to think that just because a multitude of low intellect degenerates have elected Trump as President somehow that changed what Trump is.

 

[Ikari]

I think you misunderstand what the role of the NE is in this potential story

The NE is accused of trying to quash the story instead of reporting it. It bought the rights to it and never published it (and likely never had the intent of publishing it) as to protect Trump's image before the election

I mean, the National Enquirer isn't necessarily the hallmark of journalistic integrity. But perhaps I am confused, because I'm not sure the connection of NE and Trump. Does he have stock in it or something? The doorman could have sold this story to any number of newspapers, so if it is true as stated, he sold it the NE and the NE didn't run it. If he wanted his story heard, he should have shopped around to other outlets.

 

[NeverTrump]

I am not sure what you mean here, please elaborate a bit.

When I explained to you that innocent people have nothing to worry about. You said to the effect that an innocent Trump who is accused of this stuff is like an innocent person being targeted by the "KGB," of which I assume you mean the media. That point doesn't work when Trump uses the "KGB" to silence people himself. It also doesn't work when he constantly berates the same press as fake news.

 

[Common Sense 1]

There is a difference between campaigning and governing.

What is a politician?

 

[Common Sense 1]

The reasons why are plainly obvious and the historical record is now clear. There is really nothing to debate.

And the fact that Trump is President does little to convince people that he is a "great politician." The country is full of politicians who had a 50/50 shot at their offices. And the vast majority of them didn't have the convenience of a Hillary Clinton on the other side. You may as well give credit to the guy who beat Roy Moore in Alabama because he is a "great politician," while ignoring that he won because of Roy Moore. With Clinton receiving the popular vote and Democrats in key areas abstaining, it is a safe assumption to see that any other Democrat would have beaten Trump and that any other Republican would have destroyed Clinton.

I think you are associating only manipulation aspects to the word "politician," thus defaulting Trump into the category of great politicians simply because he won his election. But it didn't take much to wrangle the mob who was willing to betray who they were just to flip off the world. Trump rode a wave of bitterness and misunderstood resentment for having to witness so many of their ideologies fail over the last eight years.

A great politician performs after achieving. And with the worst "First 100 days" in office, as recorded in history, and his administration having the greatest swinging door in history, Trump has proven not to be the great politician. Just a con man who is barely treading water, shooting from the hip, and in constant PR mode for his bad decisions and poor behavior.

Nothing to debate? Really...... You have given reasons you don't like him. Nothing more!

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

I mean, the National Enquirer isn't necessarily the hallmark of journalistic integrity. But perhaps I am confused, because I'm not sure the connection of NE and Trump. Does he have stock in it or something? The doorman could have sold this story to any number of newspapers, so if it is true as stated, he sold it the NE and the NE didn't run it. If he wanted his story heard, he should have shopped around to other outlets.

The owner is a friend of Trump

 

[apdst]

Another illegal campaign payment, ala the stormy Daniels hush money? That seems to be the gist here.

And for those who are confused, the point isn’t whether the rumor is true.

The bigger point, is it even illegal

 

[D_NATURED]

"Trump is really bad at being a politician"


A bit of an odd statement.

He beat the Clinton machine, nevertrumpers, resist, and media.
Characteristic's of a great politician.

Imagine if the Russians had helped Hillary instead. She would be the one getting herself investigated.

Per the OP, though, Trump is a horrible politician because NOBODY believes he's genuinely concerned about anyone but himself. A good politician is a good liar first...like Reagan.

 

[Common Sense 1]

Imagine if the Russians had helped Hillary instead. She would be the one getting herself investigated.

Per the OP, though, Trump is a horrible politician because NOBODY believes he's genuinely concerned about anyone but himself. A good politician is a good liar first...like Reagan.

Well somebody voted for him so.......

 

[Moot]

"Trump is really bad at being a politician"


A bit of an odd statement.

He beat the Clinton machine, nevertrumpers, resist, and media.
Characteristic's of a great politician.

There's a far cry between winning an election and actually knowing how to govern.

 

[NeverTrump]

The Doorman has confirmed the story, girl is denying.

 

[Moot]

It's not invading Trump's life if it didn't happen.

Not sure, but I don't think the article is saying "it didn't happen"...they're saying that after the National Enquirer bought the doorman's silence they deemed it unnecessary to investigate the validity of his story....

Shortly after the company paid Sajudin, the chairman and C.E.O. of A.M.I., David Pecker, who has spoken publicly about his friendship with Trump, ordered the A.M.I. reporters to stop investigating, the sources told me. One of the employees involved said, “There’s no question it was done as a favor to continue to protect Trump from these potential secrets. That’s black-and-white.”

 

[prometeus]

When I explained to you that innocent people have nothing to worry about. You said to the effect that an innocent Trump who is accused of this stuff is like an innocent person being targeted by the "KGB," of which I assume you mean the media. That point doesn't work when Trump uses the "KGB" to silence people himself. It also doesn't work when he constantly berates the same press as fake news.

Thanks for the clarification. My comment was strictly on the overall philosophy you said you hold. Trump is not part of my remark at all, since it is blatantly clear that he is a low life piece of crap and that is not a rumor.

 

[D_NATURED]

Well somebody voted for him so.......

So... you agree with me? That people voted for him does not mean he wasn't a good liar. In fact, getting away with it is what makes you good.

 

[tres borrachos]

I don't know about this story. It sounds interesting, but so far there really isn't anything that makes me think it's truthful (the love child, I mean).

What is it about the Enquirer that they are such strong supporters of Trump?