**** the Founding Fathers

[Luther]

The person I voted for is fixing things left and right and in under 3 years. So glad people like you don't vote. It makes it easier for America to succeed.

No sir, you're under the illusion that he is

 

[danielpalos]

No sir, you're under the illusion that he is

In right wing fantasy, they are Always right.

 

[AlphaOmega]

No sir, you're under the illusion that he is

Thats your TDS talking. Trump is doing everything I wanted him to do and then some. Did he take out the top Iranian terrorist? The answer is yes he factually did. Did he bring jobs bac? Yes he factually did. Did he increase our military strength? Yes he factually did. It goes on and on. But keep up the denial. It amuses me.

 

[AlphaOmega]

In right wing fantasy, they are Always right.

Please tell me if I got anything wrong. Lets see who is in a fantasy. Go ahead deny it.

 

[Trippy Trekker]

 

[Luther]

Thats your TDS talking. Trump is doing everything I wanted him to do and then some. Did he take out the top Iranian terrorist? The answer is yes he factually did. Did he bring jobs bac? Yes he factually did. Did he increase our military strength? Yes he factually did. It goes on and on. But keep up the denial. It amuses me.

Did you fall for the Trump Fakenews#?

Why do you suppose Trump never gave credit to the Fakenews# media for his victory?

Bernie will explain(LOL)

 

[Luther]

Thats your TDS talking. Trump is doing everything I wanted him to do and then some. Did he take out the top Iranian terrorist? The answer is yes he factually did. Did he bring jobs bac? Yes he factually did. Did he increase our military strength? Yes he factually did. It goes on and on. But keep up the denial. It amuses me.

Did he take out the top Iranian terrorist?

And there will be more in line to take his place. Do you give credit for Obama for getting Bin Laden?

Did he bring jobs bac?

Jobs sir were coming back on their own?

Did he increase our military strength?

So we could not destroy any country in the world during the Obama era for example?

 

[danielpalos]

Please tell me if I got anything wrong. Lets see who is in a fantasy. Go ahead deny it.

I know how to read charts, unlike the right wing. Continuing Trends is all you have; anybody else would more than likely have achieved better results due to the right wing having nothing but bigotry for foreign policies.

 

[GreatNews2night]

The founding fathers lived before the industrial revolution, flight, radio, nuclear technology, space exploration, the internet and Pink Floyd. They can be forgiven for missing a few possible scenarios.

I love the Pink Floyd bit. I'm a big fan, too!

 

[AlphaOmega]

Did you fall for the Trump Fakenews#?

Why do you suppose Trump never gave credit to the Fakenews# media for his victory?

Bernie will explain(LOL)

lol@bernie will explain

 

[AlphaOmega]

And there will be more in line to take his place. Do you give credit for Obama for getting Bin Laden?


Jobs sir were coming back on their own?




So we could not destroy any country in the world during the Obama era for example?

During the Obama reign our military had to temove parts from museum aircraft in order to keep planes in the air. Please deny this so I can ram up the link sideways.

 

[Rich2018]

The God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob.

The founders rejected that god

We would be speaking German and we would all be under socialist control.

Why would Americans be speaking German ?

Why would the USA be socialist ? The Nazis weren't socialists. The means of production in Nazi Germany were privately owned.

 

[Jonsa]

If they were so smart, how come they didn’t foresee where the US finds itself today?


Tired of hearing about the FF and what they meant........

Yet another demonstration that there's always somebody else to be blamed for whatever clustermuck you find yourself participating in.

 

[Jonsa]

During the Obama reign our military had to temove parts from museum aircraft in order to keep planes in the air. Please deny this so I can ram up the link sideways.

do you need an excuse to ram that link sideways? Especially since its something you can do in the privacy of your own home just because you feel like it.

 

[AlphaOmega]

do you need an excuse to ram that link sideways? Especially since its something you can do in the privacy of your own home just because you feel like it.

So do you deny it or are you going to cower and avoid answering?

 

[Jason Warfield]

If they were so smart, how come they didn’t foresee where the US finds itself today?


Tired of hearing about the FF and what they meant........

They knew they couldn't so they made a Constitution that could be amended and be treated as a living document for those changes. They strove for a balance between individual rights and the duty of government; they knew it was imperfect, but counter that imperfection, they gave the future generations ways to make change to the Constitution and government as needed. And they gave that power to the people so that no one man or small group of men would hold sway over an entire nation for personal gain, profit and power.

What they didn't count on was that the people, at a certain point, turn weak and into a pack of cowards. Willing to give away everything to "feel safe" or to reclaim power that they feel other Americans shouldn't have. Out of fear and over a span of about 40 to 50 years, sold our nation to a pack of men who care only for their own personal profit and agenda, to the point where they pretty much just ignored the Constitution, who only had to say things like "See that gay man? He wants to make your kids gay so he can have sex with them!!" Or, "See that person with darker skin than your white skin...they more rights than you do, and they are going to have revenge on you!!"

They sold their lies and made people fear. Told people the grand lie that America was no longer great. Told them to vote for an incompetent whose only good point is that he's good at selling fear, mistrust and hate. And the promise they gave the people was.....WE WILL KEEP YOU SAFE AND RETURN YOU TO AN IMAGINARY WORLD THAT NEVER EXISTED EXCEPT IN YOUR MIND...and at the same time....WE WILL TAKE EVERYTHING AWAY FROM YOU AND YOU WILL ADORE AND THANK US FOR IT.

The Founders put faith in the people. And the people let them down. It was never the Founders' fault. It's our fault. It's the fault of people like me for not being able to stop it, and it was the fault of others for buying into it.

 

[jaypatriot]

If they were so smart, how come they didn’t foresee where the US finds itself today?


Tired of hearing about the FF and what they meant........

So you're tired of learning about your own history. You are an American, right?

 

[jaypatriot]

What? Leader of the Free World? Greatest economy in history? Leader in personal rights and freedoms? Let me know when I get close...

Maybe Rex just wants to stopping hearing about America's greatness and realizing it is the greatest democracy the world has ever seen.
Or maybe he wants to see someone like Bernie or Warren come in and destroy it.

 

[jaypatriot]

Excuse me? Are you implying in some bizarre way that I, in any way, voiced a complaint in my comment? Geeze you are one angry dude, aren't ya?

And incidentally, this country is in a heap of corruption because YOU PEOPLE voted for him!

WHUT CHOO you mean YOU PEOPLE!!

 

[jaypatriot]

I was not responding to your question, I was responding to Rexedgar. I have no intention of indulging you in your little tirade.

"NEVER MIND" says Rosanne Rosannadana

 

[jaypatriot]

Oh my bad...I thought I could respond to comments made in a public forum. Also, I'm not the one on a tirade. I am asking what the forefathers got wronf and have yet to see one cogent response much less an answer.

They did the best they could given the times they were in.
What's amazing is that they got so much right and that so many smart people got together after a costly Revolutionary War.
I am glad they had so many survivors from that war given all of the losses the colonists endured for seven years until peace was secured.
And, best of all, they did not want a king.

 

[jaypatriot]

They knew they couldn't so they made a Constitution that could be amended and be treated as a living document for those changes. They strove for a balance between individual rights and the duty of government; they knew it was imperfect, but counter that imperfection, they gave the future generations ways to make change to the Constitution and government as needed. And they gave that power to the people so that no one man or small group of men would hold sway over an entire nation for personal gain, profit and power.

What they didn't count on was that the people, at a certain point, turn weak and into a pack of cowards. Willing to give away everything to "feel safe" or to reclaim power that they feel other Americans shouldn't have. Out of fear and over a span of about 40 to 50 years, sold our nation to a pack of men who care only for their own personal profit and agenda, to the point where they pretty much just ignored the Constitution, who only had to say things like "See that gay man? He wants to make your kids gay so he can have sex with them!!" Or, "See that person with darker skin than your white skin...they more rights than you do, and they are going to have revenge on you!!"

They sold their lies and made people fear. Told people the grand lie that America was no longer great. Told them to vote for an incompetent whose only good point is that he's good at selling fear, mistrust and hate. And the promise they gave the people was.....WE WILL KEEP YOU SAFE AND RETURN YOU TO AN IMAGINARY WORLD THAT NEVER EXISTED EXCEPT IN YOUR MIND...and at the same time....WE WILL TAKE EVERYTHING AWAY FROM YOU AND YOU WILL ADORE AND THANK US FOR IT.

The Founders put faith in the people. And the people let them down. It was never the Founders' fault. It's our fault. It's the fault of people like me for not being able to stop it, and it was the fault of others for buying into it.

"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars but in ourselves".

 

[Cynical]

And how much do we raise the wage for someone who works at Burger king etc(Rolling eyes)?

From my link

Why not make minimum wage the same as our Congressional representatives.

 

[Logicman]

There was no way to cover every contingency.

The FF never envisioned someone as corrupt as Donald Trump as president nor a Senate as ethically emasculated as the GOP majority 116th.

Horse manure. TRUMP ACQUITTED!! And you don't have to like it! And it's going to get worse for you when Trump is reelected in November! Then you can really grow a rhoid!

 

[Luther]

lol@bernie will explain

Yep, so did you understand?