no....i wasnt saying he couldnt be impeached if liked
please reread
i was saying that if you want to IMPEACH you better have the backing of more than than 50% of the country....you need more than the base party.....you need independents and in this case the GOP backing it also....that is how you get to 65-70% of the country....and with that support, no way in hell those senators would have voted that way
but this was strictly a partisan impeachment....and there was no support from the GOP party....and no clamor from the public for them to change their votes
The majority of the public wanted impeachment and removal as shown in several polls. I think the number was 56% or 54%, I don't remember, but it was the majority.
No, I continue to think that the senators voting for impeachment only if 65-70% of the country wants it (you said if that was the public's perception they would have voted differently; you said nothing about the facts of the case), is a disgrace, is preposterous. I think they got from the Founding Fathers the task of objectively and impartially looking at the evidence and voting accordingly. Several Republican senators said that they were convinced by the House Managers' argumentation, thought that the case against the president was proven, even said that there was no point in hearing from John Bolton because the case was already proven so his testimony wouldn't change that conclusion... but still voted to acquit!!! That is a low dirty shame. That's not what the Framers recommended.
The only reason why it was a "partisan" impeachment (not really, Mitt Romney voted to convict) is that the GOP is made of a bunch of cowards and sycophants who fear Trump's base sponsoring right-wing challengers in their future primaries.
There was no GOP support because the current GOP doesn't have the integrity that they used to have at the time of Nixon's quasi-impeachment. And that's the fault of the GOP, not the fault of the Dems.
I'd say that there might be a way to blame the Dems, if several GOP senators had NOT said that the case was convincing and proven... so it was no witch hunt. It was factual. But still, those senators, instead of obeying their oath of impartial judgment, basically said "the guy is guilty but I vote to acquit." This is pretty unheard of... And it is a historical disgrace. There is no way around it. If you feel that the president is guilty, then you must convict, not acquit, gee!!!
I know that even with the senators who at least had the courage to admit that the House case was proven, we wouldn't get to the 67 number that was needed for removal... But at least we'd have a majority of a guilty verdict. That would have been a consolation prize... at least Trump wouldn't be boasting about his acquittal, and maybe would be less emboldened. Didn't you see what happened next? He showed the front page with the "acquitted" result, and rapidly started persecuting the honest and patriotic career civil servants who accurately testified in the House inquiry, which is actually illegal.
But now we no longer live in a nation that abides by the rule of law, so, anything goes. Illegal now is irrelevant as far as Trump is concerned. Trump will just be more and more out of control since the cowardly GOP abdicated from checks and balances.
