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The crap selective Biblical literalism has fostered

<alt>doxygen said:
We do charity work here and are also involved with a charity that works in Ethiopia. The groups we work with are not religious, but we do cross paths with groups that are church based from time to time. How those Christians feel about the hyper-power/money oriented and hyper-politicized "Christians" that are all over the media I'd like to know, but I don't know them well enough to bring the subject up.

FWIW, there is also a large mosque here that does a lot of charity work.
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I haven't argued the contrary.
 
jmotivator said:
Ah, but you are. That is precisely what "A Year of Living Biblically" does. He didn't live Biblically, because he lived life exactly counter to the commands of Jesus. He attempted to show the troubles of the Bible while ignoring how the Bible ultimately teaches people to live.

It's like those old tests they gave in school to see who follows instructions with 50 steps, and the first step says read all steps first, and the 50th step says skip steps 2 through 49.. The Bible doesn't ask you to skip ALL the steps, but the steps they tell you to follow are generally be kind to pothers and don't judge, and the steps they tell you to skip are "Don't wear mixed fibers", "Don't shave"... essentially all the stuff he did under the guise of being "Biblical" are the things the actual Bible tells you and no longer your concern.

In other words, if he "lives Biblically" but doesn't address the laws of the New Covenant then he was following the Torah, or the Quran... he was living a life of a Hasidic Jew or devout Muslim, not a Christian. So his findings of "Living Biblically" would be far more applicable to those groups, not Christians. When you give him props for not being a selective Biblical Literalist you couldn't be more wrong, he was such a selective Biblical literalist that he skipped the entire teachings of Jesus! :roll:
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"Is everyone who lives in Ignorance like you?" asked Milo.
"Much worse," he said longingly. "But I don't live here. I'm from a place very far away called Context.”
-- Norton Juster, The Phantom Tollbooth​
 
jmotivator said:
That wasn't my point. My point is that a good Christian would be following scripture, rather than acting against it.
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That was also my point...being a true Christian involves much more than working soup kitchens and handing out blankets... anyone can and does do that...only Christians follow in Christ's footsteps by doing the other things I mentioned, which truly sets them apart...not the charity work...
 
Elvira said:
That was also my point...being a true Christian involves much more than working soup kitchens and handing out blankets... anyone can and does do that...only Christians follow in Christ's footsteps by doing the other things I mentioned, which truly sets them apart...not the charity work...
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Can an alcoholic be a "true Christian"?
 
Logicman said:
That's not Biblical. And unless people repent of their sins, they're lost (Jesus, Luke 13:3).
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The TrumpNChrist has shown us that repenting is for losers. Mulligans are free and easy.
 
<alt>doxygen said:
The TrumpNChrist has shown us that repenting is for losers. Mulligans are free and easy.
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Those Trumpians in Christ who repent will get to heaven before their stiff-necked detractors who kick Christ to the curb.
 
Logicman said:
Those Trumpians in Christ who repent will get to heaven before their stiff-necked detractors who kick Christ to the curb.
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Heaven where everyone cackles about Hillary's cellulite? Maybe. Interesting people, lolz.
 
Logicman said:
Jesus is the husband of believers, but not unbelievers. He even went on to say to the stiff-necked crowd that they are of their father the devil (John 8).
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Do you observe OT dietary restrictions? No. And you needn't observe OT restrictions on homosexual behavior. The ceremonial law was fulfilled, all men have a husband.
 
ecofarm said:
Do you observe OT dietary restrictions? No. And you needn't observe OT restrictions on homosexual behavior. The ceremonial law was fulfilled, all men have a husband.
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First of all, the moral laws of God have not changed or been abolished. Adultery, idolatry, murder, homosexual sin, etc., all remain sins in the New Testament.

Homosexual sin is also reiterated in the New Testament (Romans 1:26-27, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, etc.). No way is it approved.
 
Logicman said:
First of all, the moral laws of God have not changed or been abolished. Adultery, idolatry, murder, homosexual sin, etc., all remain sins in the New Testament.

Homosexual sin is reiterated in the New Testament (Romans 1:26-27, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, etc.). No way is it approved.
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You're misinterpreting.
 
Logicman said:
Those Trumpians in Christ who repent will get to heaven before their stiff-necked detractors who kick Christ to the curb.
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Passengers on the 6 a.m. flight to Laguardia arrive in NY before passengers on the 10 a.m. flight.
 
I think some Christians who support Trump or any politician, for that matter, overlook Luke 4:6...

"Then the Devil said to him: “I will give you all this authority and their glory, because it has been handed over to me, and I give it to whomever I wish."

Acknowledge it or not, Satan is the ruler of this world and he gives authority to whomever he wishes...

"Now there is a judging of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out." John 12:31

"in which you at one time walked according to the system of things of this world, according to the ruler of the authority of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience." Ephesians 2:2

"Now the wild beast that I saw was like a leopard, but its feet were like those of a bear, and its mouth was like a lion’s mouth. And the dragon gave to the beast its power and its throne and great authority." Revelation 31:2
 
Woe to those who reject Allah!!!!!!
 
Elvira said:
1 Corinthians 11-13
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
1 Peter 4:3
Galatians 5:19-24
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These don't say you can't be a christian. They just preach against certain behavior. How many drinks does it take to stop beings christian? Why can't alcoholics be Christians if they believe in Christ's teachings? Peter and Paul aren't Christ. Are alcoholics incapable of loving god and their neighbor? Do you know that alcoholism is a condition beyond the control of the individual?
 
Logicman said:
First of all, the moral laws of God have not changed or been abolished. Adultery, idolatry, murder, homosexual sin, etc., all remain sins in the New Testament.

Homosexual sin is also reiterated in the New Testament (Romans 1:26-27, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, etc.). No way is it approved.
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You certiainly love taking things out of context with mistranslation. When will you ever do things right?
 
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