The Confederate Flag

[Master Debator]

There's lots of things to enjoy, that are not produced by jews, blacks and self hating Whites.

I'll just have to take your word on that. :thumbs:

Music, books, podcasts, youtube videos, edgy cartoons(like Murdoch Murdoch) ect. then there are activities that you don't have to pay for ( besides buying equipment or paying for gas) like biking, exercising, target shooting, hunting, hiking, camping, cooking ect. Not being a slave to the idiot tube will result in whites being much happier. I wish more would follow our example.

But they're not though and it's why we're winning the culture. Once we have that that's the whole ball game. Seriously though I enjoy those things too but I also get to enjoy football and tv and movies without worrying about being triggered. :thumbs:

 

[Master Debator]

Was that a yes or no?

Sure. She said so herself. What's your point?

 

[AlphaOmega]

Sure. She said so herself. What's your point?

Was Byrd a KKK member that founded a new chapter of the KKK and do you dispute that he said this?

"I shall never fight in the armed forces with a negro by my side ... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds."

 

[Master Debator]

Was Byrd a KKK member that founded a new chapter of the KKK and do you dispute that he said this?

"I shall never fight in the armed forces with a negro by my side ... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds."

Nope. Don't dispute that either. Again, what's your point?

 

[CitizenBasehead]

But they're not though and it's why we're winning the culture. Once we have that that's the whole ball game. Seriously though I enjoy those things too but I also get to enjoy football and tv and movies without worrying about being triggered. :thumbs:

It's more about giving money to whites to start a counter coulter movement on their own platforms and to start their own businesses. But I have to admit that made me laugh, I do enjoy quality **** taking.

 

[it's just me]

Yep. **** Washington and Jefferson. We'll tear down their statues too. First things first though. Our first priority is tearing down Confederate monuments and symbols and shaming their supporters into obscurity and hiding. It's been slow going but progress seems to be picking up. :thumbs:

What do you think this is, 1984?

Oh, wait....

 

[Divine_Wind]

To bad they didn't kill more of them. They were racist slavers. And what do mean when you say so many people don't trust the Democratic party? Do you mean different groups of people? Because muslims, atheists, jews, blacks, asians, latino, gay, bi, transgender, almost vote exclusively Democratic. Also in the last 5 out 7 presidential election the Democrats have won the popular vote which means the majority of actual Americans voted for them. Seems more people distrust the Republicans.

Thank you for exemplifying the often hidden LW support for mass murder of civilians and war atrocities. It's good seeing someone take the thin rubber mask of the Democratic party and revealing its true nature. Kudos!

Like the Republican party, the "modern" Democratic party isn't the same as it was under Truman or Kennedy. Like the Republican party, the Democrats have moved away from moderation and toward extremism. Both parties have shown they are unwilling to compromise which is why the US government has become largely dysfunctional. It's why the nation is split in two with about a third of the voters supporting each party and the remaining 40% wondering "WTF?" You, sir, have proved my points for all to see. Thanks again.

 

[j brown's body]

1) So DJT signed a bill making a MLK historical site into a national park. (You support Trump on this)
2) DJT is the only President to ever achieve this level of minority unemployment. (You do no deny this but wont give him credit)
great lets move on to item 3 which you are all avoiding like the plague.
3) Robert Byrd. Was he a mentor of Hillary Clinton? Yes or no

1) Big whoop. what was he going to do? Veto it? Not likely. It wouldn't have made him look good.
2) With Black unemployment Trump supporters act like he hit a triple, but really just moved from second to third. Its a shallow claim. It was headed there with him or without him.
3) Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms and the rest of the Democratic racist south, including Trent Lott who said we would be in less trouble today if we had listened to Thurmond, became Republicans. Byrd was a master senate tactician and could mentor anyone. He also apologized for his racism, something Thurmond, Helms, Lott and the rest of the former southern Democrats turned Republican never did.

 

[j brown's body]

Thank you for exemplifying the often hidden LW support for mass murder of civilians and war atrocities. It's good seeing someone take the thin rubber mask of the Democratic party and revealing its true nature. Kudos!

Like the Republican party, the "modern" Democratic party isn't the same as it was under Truman or Kennedy. Like the Republican party, the Democrats have moved away from moderation and toward extremism. Both parties have shown they are unwilling to compromise which is why the US government has become largely dysfunctional. It's why the nation is split in two with about a third of the voters supporting each party and the remaining 40% wondering "WTF?" You, sir, have proved my points for all to see. Thanks again.

President Obama sought compromise as a matter of course.

 

[JasperL]

Clearly you submitted to the black neighbor We know that by the way you whined he would be pissed off.

If it makes you feel better to think like a racist and believe treating black neighbors with common courtesy is to "submit" to them, that's fine. Whatever makes you sleep better at night.

 

[JasperL]

Hot damned but you are spinning a blown gasket. Are you tired of using the gasket like it is a hula hoop?

Not really. Lost Cause arguments just are too stupid to be treated with respect.

 

[Master Debator]

Thank you for exemplifying the often hidden LW support for mass murder of civilians and war atrocities. It's good seeing someone take the thin rubber mask of the Democratic party and revealing its true nature. Kudos!

I don't speak for all liberals, I speak for myself. I have nothing against the slaughtering of enemies so long as their my enemies. :shrug:

Like the Republican party, the "modern" Democratic party isn't the same as it was under Truman or Kennedy. Like the Republican party, the Democrats have moved away from moderation and toward extremism. Both parties have shown they are unwilling to compromise which is why the US government has become largely dysfunctional. It's why the nation is split in two with about a third of the voters supporting each party and the remaining 40% wondering "WTF?" You, sir, have proved my points for all to see. Thanks again.

You think one persons opinion equals proof of an entire left wing agenda... :lamo

 

[JasperL]

DAmned the site you handed to all of us. That was your snopes site I used.

I didn't cite Snopes. Someone else might have but the data are what they are. About half of families in Mississippi owned at least one slave. That's widespread.

 

[Divine_Wind]

I don't speak for all liberals, I speak for myself. I have nothing against the slaughtering of enemies so long as their my enemies. :shrug:



You think one persons opinion equals proof of an entire left wing agenda... :lamo

Your post advocated the mass murder of civilians and committing war atrocities.

 

[Jezcoe]

Correct. Lincoln invading the South was what started the Civil War. Sure, anti-Southerners love to point out Fort Sumter, but that was after secession. No one died due to the South Carolina attack on Sumter even though one Union soldier died due to an accident.

The fact remains that there would not have been a Civil War if Lincoln had not ordered the invasion of the South by the Union Army. There would not have been a Civil War if Lincoln had not exceeded his authority as President by attacking the CSA.

So even though the Confederacy fired the first shot, the Civil war was the fault of Lincoln. Any other view is "anti- Southern"

Makes sense.

 

[AlphaOmega]

Nope. Don't dispute that either. Again, what's your point?

Great, so Hillary Clintons mentor was a founding KKK chapter member who despised blacks even referring to them as "mongrels" which means animal of the result of crossed breeds. You do not deny this. Perfect.

So please explain dems support of racist candidates and congressmen in lieu of their outrage over the confederate flag. An inanimate object that predates these modern day racist democrats by well over a century. Please dont attempt to say you personally dont like these candidates as you have been attempting to do all along. We are not discussing that. You are about to explain why democrats who want flags and statues removed because of racism are actively and have actively supported racists for over half a century. Joe Biden sorts African Americans as being "clean". How is this blatant hypocrisy justified by you?

 

[Divine_Wind]

President Obama sought compromise as a matter of course.

What was the compromise? Letting Pelosi run the health care plan and kicking out all of the Republicans? Jumping into not one but two local matters in order to influence the outcome extrajudicially?

More to the point, who said Obama comprised the entire Democratic party? Are you disagreeing or agreeing that both parties have moved toward uncompromising extremes?

 

[AlphaOmega]

1) Big whoop. what was he going to do? Veto it? Not likely. It wouldn't have made him look good.
2) With Black unemployment Trump supporters act like he hit a triple, but really just moved from second to third. Its a shallow claim. It was headed there with him or without him.
3) Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms and the rest of the Democratic racist south, including Trent Lott who said we would be in less trouble today if we had listened to Thurmond, became Republicans. Byrd was a master senate tactician and could mentor anyone. He also apologized for his racism, something Thurmond, Helms, Lott and the rest of the former southern Democrats turned Republican never did.

Yes we know he apologized as he realized he would lose his seat if he didnt. Fact is he thought blacks were mongrels. We know this because he said so. Another fact......dems loved this racist KKK founding member but act like a statue is ghastly. Priceless hypocrites todays dems are.

 

[Divine_Wind]

So even though the Confederacy fired the first shot, the Civil war was the fault of Lincoln. Any other view is "anti- Southern"

Makes sense.

It was South Carolina that fired the shot in order to kick the "foreigners" out of their state. No one was killed by South Carolina and the Federal troops were allowed to leave.

The fact you support a war killing almost 700,000 Americans, including 50,000 civilians because South Carolina kicked Federal troops out of their state tells me your senses are off.

 

[JasperL]

jesus criminy. You truly have been indoctrinated to the max. While you insult those people of that era, do you believe George washington raped the slaves and beat them half to death. Do you think Jefferson was such a scum he did it too?

The way slaves were kept in line was through systematic oppression, with the threat of beatings, whipping, rape, and more present at all times for all slaves. As to beating the slaves, no, Jefferson and Washington had slave masters to do that kind of 'discipline' for them. We know Jefferson had sex with young Sally Hemmings, perhaps as young as 14, but she gave birth at 17. She had no power to consent or not - she was property, and the only answer was yes. That's rape in the legal sense, although we don't know if he was ever violent with her. He didn't care enough about Hemmings to free her in life or after his death, which tells us quite a bit about the man IMO.

 

[JasperL]

Yes we know from history the soldiers removed them. Same as saddams. Thats part of the history that can't be changed. Those statues werent removed in our modern day by people who were not involved in the making of the history as we are seeing here. They are simply over emotional idiots oblivious to our nations history.

I don't see it that way. There's no reason current citizens must be bound by the monument decisions of white supremacists 100 years ago. If a black neighborhood in Memphis doesn't appreciate a monument to a famous slave and Klukker, they should remove it and put up a monument to someone not a slaver and then head of a terrorist organization dedicated to preserving white supremacy post Civil war, someone their children can look up to.

 

[marke]

Hitler was far more influenced by Oswalnd Spengler and Otto Von Bismark than any American author.

Hitler wrote to Madison Grant and told him he considered Grant's racist book his bible

 

[JasperL]

You guys know the war is over right? I am aghast at the idiotic comments in this thread about fact based history. Todays lefty and ISIS bear striking resemblances.

You called my comments idiotic, but didn't address them. Why not? SHOULD we forever and ever and ever be bound by decisions of citizens about who to honor in the public square? Once a monument goes up, it must NEVER EVER come down because...history? What if the current residents don't particularly admire N.B. Forrest and his claim to fame as the first Grand Klukker terrorist? Why shouldn't they be able to remove that monument and put in place someone they do admire?

 

[Master Debator]

Your post advocated the mass murder of civilians and committing war atrocities.

Yes, it did. So?

:shrug:

I'm not ashamed of desiring the elimination of all racist slavers from the face of the earth.

Great, so Hillary Clintons mentor was a founding KKK chapter member who despised blacks even referring to them as "mongrels" which means animal of the result of crossed breeds. You do not deny this. Perfect.

So please explain dems support of racist candidates and congressmen in lieu of their outrage over the confederate flag. An inanimate object that predates these modern day racist democrats by well over a century. Please dont attempt to say you personally dont like these candidates as you have been attempting to do all along. We are not discussing that. You are about to explain why democrats who want flags and statues removed because of racism are actively and have actively supported racists for over half a century. Joe Biden sorts African Americans as being "clean". How is this blatant hypocrisy justified by you?

Well for us it's the lesser of two evils. The North was never perfect but they weren't the South. When Republicans represented the North blacks voted for them by a good majority and even held office as Republicans. When the civil rights act was passed in 64' the vote was split with Northern Republicans and Democrats voting in favor of it and Southern Republicans and Democrats voting against it. At that time southern conservatives were mostly represented by the dixiecrats but when Goldwater and Nixon ran on opposition to civil rights and won over southern conservatives blacks saw the writing on the wall and switched too. Blacks are never going to vote for the party that represents southern conservatives. Southern conservatives have fought against equality and justice for blacks since the birth of this nation.

 

[AlphaOmega]

I don't see it that way. There's no reason current citizens must be bound by the monument decisions of white supremacists 100 years ago. If a black neighborhood in Memphis doesn't appreciate a monument to a famous slave and Klukker, they should remove it and put up a monument to someone not a slaver and then head of a terrorist organization dedicated to preserving white supremacy post Civil war, someone their children can look up to.

Then explain why the same democrats are currently supporting racist candidates for President. I'm getting bored waiting for a dem to feebly attempt a defense.