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The Big Question is about Democracy

Of course you don't, it favours the right.
Nonsense. Did you miss last year's election? Exactly how many states have redrawn their Congressional districts in the last ten years?

OscarLevant said:
I wouldn't expect any high mindedness from a right winger. The slime is just fine, with you guys.
I talk to the level of the person I'm addressing;
oscarLevant said:
Oh, youi want to bring up a few districts gerrymanderd by the left (compared to hundreds by the right) ? Okay, let's do the slime pissing contest, I'm ready when you are.
Dude there are only 435 Congressional districts in the whole country. No pissing here, do you need a towel? A diaper?
 
What Democratic process has Trump thrown away? Name and date... lay it out.

He told you: refusal to execute a constitutional duty. This as you know but will lie about was based on the stupidly dishonest pretense that if a thing hasn't happened before - here, voting on an appointment to SCOTUS just shy of a year before an election - it cannot be done.

As usual, conservatives cheered on the GOP for taking the low road, thereby scoring a WIN! Then Trump wins despite being the far more unpopular candidate thanks to a holdover from the slave-era founding of the country. He gets Gorsuch without trouble, despite the profound dishonesty of their Garland maneuvring. And you lot have the gall ("Gall" isn't the right word, but this is upstairs) to act all offended that there was even a hearing about whether or not their next nominee sexually assaulted someone.

The "process" thrown away was that of fairly giving advice and consent on a nominee to the extent of refusing to so much as vote on the nomination. They could have tried voting him down, but no. That would be too honest for the GOP, wouldn't it just?

If the Dems wake up and realize that they get kicked in the balls every time they hope the GOP takes the high road and thus returns the favor by doing something like that to you, you'll be howling your head off.







Don't worry, I won't be reading the response. I'm painfully aware that I'll just get dishonest, stupid, and snarky jabber. Probably also a declaration of victory.

This post is more for the record.
 
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He told you: refusal to execute a constitutional duty. This as you know but will lie about was based on the stupidly dishonest pretense that if a thing hasn't happened before - here, voting on an appointment to SCOTUS just shy of a year before an election - it cannot be done.

As usual, conservatives cheered on the GOP for taking the low road, thereby scoring a WIN! Then Trump wins despite being the far more unpopular candidate thanks to a holdover from the slave-era founding of the country. He gets Gorsuch without trouble, despite the profound dishonesty of their Garland maneuvring. And you lot have the gall ("Gall" isn't the right word, but this is upstairs) to act all offended that there was even a hearing about whether or not their next nominee sexually assaulted someone.

The "process" thrown away was that of fairly giving advice and consent on a nominee to the extent of refusing to so much as vote on the nomination. They could have tried voting him down, but no. That would be too honest for the GOP, wouldn't it just?

If the Dems wake up and realize that they get kicked in the balls every time they hope the GOP takes the high road and thus returns the favor by doing something like that to you, you'll be howling your head off.







Don't worry, I won't be reading the response. I'm painfully aware that I'll just get dishonest, stupid, and snarky jabber. Probably also a declaration of victory.

This post is more for the record
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I'm not interested in going to the gutter with a cantankerous, uncivil personality like yourself.
Yes, you make sure you keep a copy of this post for all posterity and you will then remind yourself why most skip right over your words.

Have a joyful evening.
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I'm not interested in going to the gutter with a cantankerous, uncivil personality like yourself.

Strange thing to say when you read through four paragraphs on the substance, utterly fail to respond to those paragraphs, and then used a tiny closer such as you often use against other posters to excuse yourself from having to defend your (sparse) substantive position.

I can lead a horse to water, but.... oh well.

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Strange thing to say when you read through four paragraphs on the substance, utterly fail to respond to those paragraphs, and then used a tiny closer such as you often use against other posters to excuse yourself from having to defend your (sparse) substantive position.

I can lead a horse to water, but.... oh well.

:coffeepap:

You can't even keep your stupid word...

Don't worry, I won't be reading the response. I'm painfully aware that I'll just get dishonest, stupid, and snarky jabber. Probably also a declaration of victory.

This post is more for the record.

FTR.... You're :wcm
 
The "Democratic process" you are lamenting boils down to the tendency of political elites from both parties to work for their deep pocket donors instead of the people who put them in office. Trump's actions in Office is a threat to that process.

And, to answer your question, yes. The economic benefits of a Trump Presidency...along with combating the effects of the Congressional elites and their donors is a very good thing.

Do you know who the donors you vote for (via the trumpLickins) are, or what their real agenda is?
 
Do you know who the donors you vote for (via the trumpLickins) are, or what their real agenda is?

How about you tell me.

Since Congress is intent upon opposing Trump, we can be sure it's not the same donors who are giving money to those guys.
 
If you had a clue about logic, and the application of it, you might have a point.


Killfile, in you go

'Lack of understanding' mantra (doubling as an Inversion Fallacy) dismissed on sight...

Try substantive reasoning next time...
 
So, maybe not by Constitution but in practice, more and more, These United States are and are becoming an Oligarchy. But, in fact we are supposed to be a "Democratic Republic".
The part that I bolded is absolutely true... SCOTUS has acted as an Oligarchy for most of our nation's history... The members of the Church of Karl Marx (they typically call themselves Democrats or Democratic Socialists) are attempting to overthrow the US Constitution and to place an Oligarchy in it's place where THEY are the ruling class and everybody else are their peons...
 
The part that I bolded is absolutely true... SCOTUS has acted as an Oligarchy for most of our nation's history... The members of the Church of Karl Marx (they typically call themselves Democrats or Democratic Socialists) are attempting to overthrow the US Constitution and to place an Oligarchy in it's place where THEY are the ruling class and everybody else are their peons...

The part in red is BULL **** and shows your fascist bias; even if you don't know that's what it is! The wealthy elite that, recently started calling themselves Republicans but are really John Birch Libertarians are the ones that belong to the elite Koch Machine and have been buying elections around the country, they are the ones moving the US and us toward Oligarchy.
 
The part in red is BULL **** and shows your fascist bias; even if you don't know that's what it is!
Fascism is what some of the members of the Church of Karl Marx are fighting for, NOT me...

The wealthy elite that, recently started calling themselves Republicans but are really John Birch Libertarians are the ones that belong to the elite Koch Machine and have been buying elections around the country, they are the ones moving the US and us toward Oligarchy.
Void Argument due to the bolded buzzword... Define "wealthy elite"...
 
Fascism is what some of the members of the Church of Karl Marx are fighting for, NOT me...

Yes you!


Void Argument due to the bolded buzzword... Define "wealthy elite"...

Do you have a reading comprehension deficiency? The Koch brothers have a network of wealthy individuals that meet regularly to promote their agenda and politicians the support and own.

I have no interest in debating your prejudice against more than 1/2 of your fellow AmeriCANs. This thread is dead, by fred! :2wave:
 
Yes you!




Do you have a reading comprehension deficiency? The Koch brothers have a network of wealthy individuals that meet regularly to promote their agenda and politicians the support and own.

Insult Fallacy along with refusal to answer my question regarding your buzzword... I think we're done here...
 
'Lack of understanding' mantra (doubling as an Inversion Fallacy) dismissed on sight...

Try substantive reasoning next time...


You're learning a lot from Trump: The Art Of The Con is to accuse others of the very thing you are guilty of, that way, you think no one will notice.

I'll call your old tactic, "The Art Of The Con" fallacy.


Or perhaps "Gaslighting fallacy".


I understand you are a fallacy junkie, so I'll try and keep you stocked up lest you go into schlock for want of them.
 
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