The Assault Weapons Ban Is A Dumb Idea Pushed By Dumb People

[Rucker61]

It's clear that after all these massacre's that the only thing that Republicans are fierce about is protecting the NRA at any cost & no matter how many lives


'Thoughts and prayers' ? and fistfuls of NRA money: Why America can't control guns

So what would gun control look like under Democrats?

1. A semi-automatic weapons ban and ban on large gun clips--30 round clips.
2. Background checks, including mental health that Trump & Republicans did away with--when Obama inacted them after Sandy Hook.
Donald Trump Revoked Obama-Era Gun Checks For Mentally Ill Law | Fortune

3. Background and extended mental health at all gun shows.
4. No private sales: Meaning if you want to sell a gun you would drop it off at a licensed gun dealer and put it on consignment for sale so a background check could be done.

This is pretty much what Colorado did after the Aurora theatre shooting, with the exception of banning semi automatics. Gun clips are 9 in this state. So if you're caught with a larger gun clip it will be confiscated, and you will be fined.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

1. Here's what the Democrats have proposed: https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4269/text. No guns are confiscated, no magazines are confiscated.
2. Here's what happened with regards to the mental health issue, and even the ACLU was against the illegal law. No, the GOP Did Not Just Repeal the Background Check System or Give Guns to the Mentally Il | National Review
3. We have 50,000 licensed psychiatrists and 20 million background checks each year. It is not possible to have an extended background check on every buyer for every purchase, nor would these doctors want to give up treating their patients who are actually mentally ill.
4. You want want that, you can demand that, you can even make it a law. It will not stop a single criminal from selling to another, and as it isn't enforceable, regular gun owners will ignore it too.
5. Here's the link to the Colorado law that you think enables LEOs to confiscate magazines. For one, all magazines were grandfathered, and two, as magazines have no serial number, it's not possible to determine if any magazine was acquired post ban. http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/cl...5E62E6F87257B0100813CB5?Open&file=1224_01.pdf. Police outside of Denver don't give a rat's patootie if you have a magazine that holds more than 10 rounds.

Where the heck did you come up with this stuff?

 

[CLAX1911]

Sean Davis is a well thought out conservative who always has good points to make. so I read this and think it has credence.


Assault Weapons Ban: A Dumb Idea Pushed By Dumb People




I'm not saying I have all the answers. I'm just saying I don't think an assault ban is the answer.

The assault weapons ban expired in 2004 Democrats held majority for several years after that and the amount of legislation passed was absolutely nothing.

I don't think they really care about gun control it's just a way to say how Republicans or Hell liberals that aren't ultra-left are horrible people.

They do not want to touch this legislation because it is messy.

 

[CLAX1911]

Then, why are these weapons the weapon of choice for mass murderers?

What weapons guns? I don't know making a bomb is too risky.

 

[CLAX1911]

Lol, Semiautomatic assault handgun and assault shotgun.

What qualifies a pistol as an assault weapon according to the 1994 assault weapons ban is some really strange things.

Having two or more of these things a magazine that attaches outside of the pistol grip.

I'm not even kidding that's one of the things. The only pistol I can think of that does that is a TEC-9.

Another thing is having a heat shield around the barrel. And again the only pistol I can think of that has that is a TEC-9

Waiting more than a certain amount which I'm willing to bet is pretty close to the weight of a TEC-9

In the most hilarious criteria I think exist regarding this a semi-automatic version of a fully automatic weapon.

An assault shotgun is funny too.
A collapsible stock a pistol grip and detachable magazine.

So you can have a shotgun with a pistol grip as long as it didn't have a detachable magazine or a collapsible stock cuz that matters.

I don't think people with billions of dollars and access to any amount of research they can get would make something so vague and meaningless then it really only applies to One pistol that I can think of.

I believe it was lip service I don't think people who proposed the s*** really want gun control they just want to say how bad you are for having a gun because people kill each other with them.

 

[CLAX1911]

The only thing that is dumb are stupid right wing posts like this. There is no reason someone needs and assault rifle.

your post so far is pretty dumb. What is considered to be an assault weapon the only definition I can rely on is the assault weapons ban of 1994 is a gun that has 2 or more of five features that really don't effect the function of the rifle at all.

I agree with you nobody needs a rifle with a bayonet lug but Banning that wouldn't stop school shootings because it wasn't the bayonet lug that was killing people sorry.

Not for hunting, and not for defense. It's a weapon of war, sole purpose is to kill the enemy.

b******* you can use them for hunting and you can use them for self-defense. They are not used by the military.

It's used to slaughter so many people. There is no reason it should be legal, and so easy to obtain, just because some rednecks have a hard on for big guns and they like going out murdering animals

any gun can be used to slaughter a large amount of people so that's not really a point either. Having a bayonet lug a collapsible stock or a pistol grip which is what makes something considered an assault weapon wouldn't change the functionality of it at all.

It's the typical "pretend I"m making a legit argument" when its complete BS and a giant leap. LIke claiming handguns are worse and kill more. THat may be true, but its dishonest to claim that, people are getting slaughtered in absurd numbers that wouldn't be feasible with simply a hand gun.

I think pretending a gun that has a bayonet lug and a collapsible stock is magically more dangerous than the same gun without those things is a complete lack of knowledge on your part.

You don't know what an assault weapon is when they wrote the assault weapon ban it was very particular to allow people to have AR-15s and all the big scary guns that make you wet your pants just you couldn't have a bayonet lug on it at the same time as having a pistol grip. You could buy all those parts and put them on if you really wanted to and nothing could stop you but it doesn't really matter anyway because there's no such thing as assault rifles.

It was made up back in 94 by people who wanted to pretend like they were doing something to advance gun control. To my knowledge it only band one particular model of gun and it seems like it was written specifically to ban just that one model.

Now you can buy that particular so-called assault pistol and it's not very common a gun used in mass killings.

 

[CLAX1911]

WTF is a "semi-automatic assault handgun"? :lol:

If you read the assault weapons ban of 1994 pretty much a TEC-9.

It's worth the read because all of the provisions including grandfather clauses on so-called high-capacity magazines really made the ban pointless. You could buy an AR-15 during the assault weapons ban but you couldn't buy it with the collapsing stock and pistol grip or a collapsing stock and a suppressor or any of the parts you can change out on them. There is no way that legislators with billions of dollars at their disposal for research would Overlook that so I think it was intentionally pointless

Accept it banned The TEC-9.

 

[CLAX1911]

I don't know. Why don't the Republicans show us how safe gun-laden places can be

go to any gun range or any gun show and tell me how many dead people there are there.

 

[CLAX1911]

Well then I'm sure Wayne LaPierre will be happy to host the next no-guns-restricted GOP convention at the NRA convention hall next time. Wouldn't he?



What are you talking about? They already do that.

So their security guards aren't armed?

 

[Nap]

If you read the assault weapons ban of 1994 pretty much a TEC-9.

It's worth the read because all of the provisions including grandfather clauses on so-called high-capacity magazines really made the ban pointless. You could buy an AR-15 during the assault weapons ban but you couldn't buy it with the collapsing stock and pistol grip or a collapsing stock and a suppressor or any of the parts you can change out on them. There is no way that legislators with billions of dollars at their disposal for research would Overlook that so I think it was intentionally pointless

Accept it banned The TEC-9.

Can you blame them? The Tec-9 had a heat shield for goodness sakes. Do you realize how dangerous that It?

Remember that one interview where the Democrat was trying to explain what all the attachments did? Listening to Democrats (especially California Ds) talk about guns is pretty hilarious. I know some like to think they are purposefully dishonest (some likely are) but I think most are just simply that ignorant about guns because some of the stuff they say is so retarded that it just seems too implausible that they secretly know and are lying about it.

 

[Nap]

go to any gun range or any gun show and tell me how many dead people there are there.

Or try to rob or carry out a mass shooting at a gun store or police station. I doubt that works out well.

 

[CLAX1911]

Can you blame them? The Tec-9 had a heat shield for goodness sakes. Do you realize how dangerous that It?

yeah that heat shield and that way that magazine attaches to it oh that's horrifying you shouldn't even be in the same room with it I mean you can hit the broadside of a barn with a damn thing which is the most important thing about it but the heat shield in the magazine in front of the trigger.

All sarcasm aside I really think the point of the assault weapons ban was to make people that were Clueless I feel like they were doing something.

Remember that one interview where the Democrat was trying to explain what all the attachments did? Listening to Democrats (especially California Ds) talk about guns is pretty hilarious.

it's kind of like my friend when I'm teaching him about his car and what things are. He'll point to something and refer to it is a doohickey. But at least he doesn't pretend like he knows what these things do

I know some like to think they are purposefully dishonest (some likely are) but I think most are just simply that ignorant about guns because some of the stuff they say is so retarded that it just seems too implausible that they secretly know and are lying about it.

well the masses are simply brainwashed lemmings. Rooting for their team. I don't think they're even aware of why they're Democrats.

 

[CLAX1911]

Or try to rob or carry out a mass shooting at a gun store or police station. I doubt that works out well.

I remember reading a couple years ago about somebody who tried to rob a gun store and then the autopsy they found the 11 different calibers of bullets in the asshole

 

[CLAX1911]

Probably a term invented by the same people who think the terms "assault weapon" and "assault rifle" synonymous. They probably figure if they attach a scary sounding name to a handgun then it would make it easier to ban.

Well according to the assault weapons ban of 94 an assault handgun is a TEC-9 no other pistol that I'm aware of aside from a TEC-9.

It's really bizarre how that's written all the provisions pretty much undermine the entire thing.

 

[Nap]

Well according to the assault weapons ban of 94 an assault handgun is a TEC-9 no other pistol that I'm aware of aside from a TEC-9.

It's really bizarre how that's written all the provisions pretty much undermine the entire thing.

Surprised they didn't say ban any gun with a number in the name. It would have worked and would have made as much sense as the rest of the bill.

 

[MAGAnificent]

The assault weapons ban expired in 2004 Democrats held majority for several years after that and the amount of legislation passed was absolutely nothing.

I don't think they really care about gun control it's just a way to say how Republicans or Hell liberals that aren't ultra-left are horrible people.

They do not want to touch this legislation because it is messy.

Even Obama Bin Laden avoided the gun control subject until after re-election. Then he could not wairt to take political advantage every time there was a school shooting.

 

[CLAX1911]

Surprised they didn't say ban any gun with a number in the name. It would have worked and would have made as much sense as the rest of the bill.

I really don't think they're interested in gun control. The Democrats had the majority for a good couple of years just recently and produced absolutely zero gun legislation. It was like a magical switch that turned off II they got a majority. I really polosi yammering on and on about it.

 

[CLAX1911]

Even Obama Bin Laden avoided the gun control subject until after re-election. Then he could not wairt to take political advantage every time there was a school shooting.

Makes me wonder.

 

[Nap]

I really don't think they're interested in gun control. The Democrats had the majority for a good couple of years just recently and produced absolutely zero gun legislation. It was like a magical switch that turned off II they got a majority. I really polosi yammering on and on about it.

I made that same point in another thread. Democrats merely pay lip service and have had plenty of opportunities and yet only push for it when they know there is no chance of passing it.

 

[CLAX1911]

I made that same point in another thread. Democrats merely pay lip service and have had plenty of opportunities and yet only push for it when they know there is no chance of passing it.

Trying to trick there lemmings into voting for them. Once they're in power they don't give a s***.

 

[goldkam]

go to any gun range or any gun show and tell me how many dead people there are there.

If you are serious that is quite upsetting to see such a narrowed perspective and view on the issue. For the record a person is not going to be stupid enough to go on a rampage at a gun show with a firearm, the logic behind that is quite simply. So to say we need to increase the amount of the guns in the US and reduce gun legislation increases the risk and abuse of the privilege

 

[TurtleDude]

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

1. Here's what the Democrats have proposed: https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4269/text. No guns are confiscated, no magazines are confiscated.
2. Here's what happened with regards to the mental health issue, and even the ACLU was against the illegal law. No, the GOP Did Not Just Repeal the Background Check System or Give Guns to the Mentally Il | National Review
3. We have 50,000 licensed psychiatrists and 20 million background checks each year. It is not possible to have an extended background check on every buyer for every purchase, nor would these doctors want to give up treating their patients who are actually mentally ill.
4. You want want that, you can demand that, you can even make it a law. It will not stop a single criminal from selling to another, and as it isn't enforceable, regular gun owners will ignore it too.
5. Here's the link to the Colorado law that you think enables LEOs to confiscate magazines. For one, all magazines were grandfathered, and two, as magazines have no serial number, it's not possible to determine if any magazine was acquired post ban. http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/cl...5E62E6F87257B0100813CB5?Open&file=1224_01.pdf. Police outside of Denver don't give a rat's patootie if you have a magazine that holds more than 10 rounds.

Where the heck did you come up with this stuff?

its obvious some of the gun banners are motivated by political agendas including a hatred of the NRA and Trump and are willing to spew all sorts of nonsense to advance the dishonest agenda

 

[TurtleDude]

I really don't think they're interested in gun control. The Democrats had the majority for a good couple of years just recently and produced absolutely zero gun legislation. It was like a magical switch that turned off II they got a majority. I really polosi yammering on and on about it.

Harry Reid didn't want to lose his senate seat nor his majority leader position trying to repeat what stupidity the dems engaged in in 1994

 

[TurtleDude]

You are absolutely correct. The AR15 will be gone from the racks as well as the banana clips.

People like you cause them to fly off the racks when hysterics call for bans. You're just mad you cannot own one in California

 

[CLAX1911]

Harry Reid didn't want to lose his senate seat nor his majority leader position trying to repeat what stupidity the dems engaged in in 1994

Have you even read that? It's the most pointless bit of legislation I have ever seen. The AWB of 94 didn't ban anything as far as particular guns.

It said you couldn't have Superfluous features on them.

I think it was a placebo.

 

[Maccabee]

Another, "Oh noes, save our assault guns," argument.

Thoughts and prayers time.

Another "oh noes, gun free zones please save us" argument.