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The Amazon is burning but who's to blame?

HumblePi

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Nearly everyone is aware that Brazil is undergoing the worst fires in their history, threatening the ecology of the entire planet. Yes, it's a global crisis unlike any we've witnessed for several reasons. This is an ecological disaster because it's entirely man-made, based entirely on greed.

Brazil’s president, Jair Bolsonaro stated: “I have a profound love and respect for the Amazon,” he said in a rare scripted message. “Protecting the rain forest is our duty.” He's a liar.

Since Jair Bolsonaro who is a nationalist former army captain took office in January, deforestation has increased sharply across Brazil, including in indigenous territories. Bolsonaro has pledged to make it easier for industries to gain access to protected areas, arguing that native communities are in control of unreasonably vast areas that contain enormous wealth. Basically, the entire South American continent is green, rain forest fires are not a thing and they should never be. Men start the fires around this time of the year for two reasons. One, to put their cows on it and second, to plant oil palms. Oil palms serve many industries, including the drug industry.

Many countries have tried to pass a law that would state that if a land becomes flat because of a fire it cannot be used for cattle or "foreign" flora/faunas in oil palms, but no government has passed that law, ever, not in Chile, not in Brazil and certainly not now with the Brazilian president willing to kill the entire Amazon if needed just so gold mining companies can profit. The USA is to blame mostly and Canada, China, Germany everyone, really not just the Brazilian president.

It is not just one thing, it is many and all of them. Low range farmers start little fires and big farming companies start big fires. Cartels, start fires at their controlled areas and mining companies start fires near tribal villages or areas they want to mine. It is not ONE thing it is many and all of them at the same time.

The fires are related to gold mining, and cattle and cartels. It's all of it, not just one thing and it is all over the continent, not just Brazil. The problem for mining companies is that local tribes do not want to leave and if the local tribes do not leave, they can't mine the lands so the fires solve that problem for the mines because if the tribes do not leave, at least they will die in the fires. It is win-win for them.

German, Canadian, US and Chinese companies are all there in Brazil and they're the ones who profit from the Amazon fires. If anyone remembers the enormous landslide at a Brazilian mine last January, that was a German company and emails showed that the company knew the waste mountain would liquefy and collapse. There were three or four studies that said the collapse was a matter of time and three or four times they manipulated the study or buried it. The company has learned to pile up the waste mountains to a point in which they will collapse at the time they have already mined all they could, so after collapsing they just abandon the mine and move to a new location.

 
Nearly everyone is aware that Brazil is undergoing the worst fires in their history, threatening the ecology of the entire planet. Yes, it's a global crisis unlike any we've witnessed for several reasons. This is an ecological disaster because it's entirely man-made, based entirely on greed.

Brazil’s president, Jair Bolsonaro stated: “I have a profound love and respect for the Amazon,” he said in a rare scripted message. “Protecting the rain forest is our duty.” He's a liar.

Since Jair Bolsonaro who is a nationalist former army captain took office in January, deforestation has increased sharply across Brazil, including in indigenous territories. Bolsonaro has pledged to make it easier for industries to gain access to protected areas, arguing that native communities are in control of unreasonably vast areas that contain enormous wealth. Basically, the entire South American continent is green, rain forest fires are not a thing and they should never be. Men start the fires around this time of the year for two reasons. One, to put their cows on it and second, to plant oil palms. Oil palms serve many industries, including the drug industry.

Many countries have tried to pass a law that would state that if a land becomes flat because of a fire it cannot be used for cattle or "foreign" flora/faunas in oil palms, but no government has passed that law, ever, not in Chile, not in Brazil and certainly not now with the Brazilian president willing to kill the entire Amazon if needed just so gold mining companies can profit. The USA is to blame mostly and Canada, China, Germany everyone, really not just the Brazilian president.

It is not just one thing, it is many and all of them. Low range farmers start little fires and big farming companies start big fires. Cartels, start fires at their controlled areas and mining companies start fires near tribal villages or areas they want to mine. It is not ONE thing it is many and all of them at the same time.

The fires are related to gold mining, and cattle and cartels. It's all of it, not just one thing and it is all over the continent, not just Brazil. The problem for mining companies is that local tribes do not want to leave and if the local tribes do not leave, they can't mine the lands so the fires solve that problem for the mines because if the tribes do not leave, at least they will die in the fires. It is win-win for them.

German, Canadian, US and Chinese companies are all there in Brazil and they're the ones who profit from the Amazon fires. If anyone remembers the enormous landslide at a Brazilian mine last January, that was a German company and emails showed that the company knew the waste mountain would liquefy and collapse. There were three or four studies that said the collapse was a matter of time and three or four times they manipulated the study or buried it. The company has learned to pile up the waste mountains to a point in which they will collapse at the time they have already mined all they could, so after collapsing they just abandon the mine and move to a new location.



Actually, it isn't the worst.

Amazon Fire History Since 2003 | Watts Up With That?
 
California is not known for being the lungs of the planet.

We know it's not Venezuela's fault because they are "invading" Brazilian airspace to water-bomb the fires nearest them.
 
Whose fault? I just posted a thread on the role of Republican lobbyists.

The fault also comes from at least:

The people who want to make short-term profits for themselves at the expense of the human race by destroying the rainforests to develop the land, and the fossil fuel companies who spread lies about climate threats.

The politicians who serve them.

The farmers who started the fires, saying they were doing what the right-wing president wanted.

The public who doesn't make enough effort to protect the rainforests from the above.
 
California is not known for being the lungs of the planet.

We know it's not Venezuela's fault because they are "invading" Brazilian airspace to water-bomb the fires nearest them.

Of course it’s Trump’s fault. O
 
It's Brazil’s president, Jair Bolsonaro's fault. He'll be lucky to outlive his term.
 
California is not known for being the lungs of the planet.

We know it's not Venezuela's fault because they are "invading" Brazilian airspace to water-bomb the fires nearest them.

Brazil isn't known as "the lungs of the planet" to anyone who knows what they're talking about.
 
Nearly everyone is aware that Brazil is undergoing the worst fires in their history, threatening the ecology of the entire planet. Yes, it's a global crisis unlike any we've witnessed for several reasons. This is an ecological disaster because it's entirely man-made, based entirely on greed.

Brazil’s president, Jair Bolsonaro stated: “I have a profound love and respect for the Amazon,” he said in a rare scripted message. “Protecting the rain forest is our duty.” He's a liar.

Since Jair Bolsonaro who is a nationalist former army captain took office in January, deforestation has increased sharply across Brazil, including in indigenous territories. Bolsonaro has pledged to make it easier for industries to gain access to protected areas, arguing that native communities are in control of unreasonably vast areas that contain enormous wealth. Basically, the entire South American continent is green, rain forest fires are not a thing and they should never be. Men start the fires around this time of the year for two reasons. One, to put their cows on it and second, to plant oil palms. Oil palms serve many industries, including the drug industry.

Many countries have tried to pass a law that would state that if a land becomes flat because of a fire it cannot be used for cattle or "foreign" flora/faunas in oil palms, but no government has passed that law, ever, not in Chile, not in Brazil and certainly not now with the Brazilian president willing to kill the entire Amazon if needed just so gold mining companies can profit. The USA is to blame mostly and Canada, China, Germany everyone, really not just the Brazilian president.

It is not just one thing, it is many and all of them. Low range farmers start little fires and big farming companies start big fires. Cartels, start fires at their controlled areas and mining companies start fires near tribal villages or areas they want to mine. It is not ONE thing it is many and all of them at the same time.

The fires are related to gold mining, and cattle and cartels. It's all of it, not just one thing and it is all over the continent, not just Brazil. The problem for mining companies is that local tribes do not want to leave and if the local tribes do not leave, they can't mine the lands so the fires solve that problem for the mines because if the tribes do not leave, at least they will die in the fires. It is win-win for them.

German, Canadian, US and Chinese companies are all there in Brazil and they're the ones who profit from the Amazon fires. If anyone remembers the enormous landslide at a Brazilian mine last January, that was a German company and emails showed that the company knew the waste mountain would liquefy and collapse. There were three or four studies that said the collapse was a matter of time and three or four times they manipulated the study or buried it. The company has learned to pile up the waste mountains to a point in which they will collapse at the time they have already mined all they could, so after collapsing they just abandon the mine and move to a new location.



Humble Pi:

Many are to blame but the most culpable is President Jair Bolsonaro. If only the knife had gone deeper, eh?

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
California is not known for being the lungs of the planet.

We know it's not Venezuela's fault because they are "invading" Brazilian airspace to water-bomb the fires nearest them.

Neither are the rainforests. And if the rainforests were replanted for agricultural use more oxygen would be created because rapidly growing farm crops require more carbon then ancient trees
 
Can you educate us on what the president of the strongest nation on earth is doing to help alleviate the problem?

What do you think he should do?
 
Scientists studying satellite images of the fires in the Amazon rain forest said most of the fires are burning on agricultural land where the forest had already been cleared through years of deforestation. https://nyti.ms/2zigFqz

— The New York Times (@nytimes) August 24, 2019
 
Scientists studying satellite images of the fires in the Amazon rain forest said most of the fires are burning on agricultural land where the forest had already been cleared through years of deforestation. https://nyti.ms/2zigFqz

— The New York Times (@nytimes) August 24, 2019

Did you read beyond the headlines? I suggest you do.
 
California is not known for being the lungs of the planet.
We know it's not Venezuela's fault because they are "invading" Brazilian airspace to water-bomb the fires nearest them.


And neither are Brazil or the Amazon. But it certainly sounds good when Macron laments about the lungs of our planet. (grin)

"... environmental scientist Jonathan Foley, who is based in San Francisco and leads Project Drawdown, a worldwide network of scientists, advocates and others proposing solutions to global warming. ...

"It’s not really true. On land, all the tropical rainforests of the Earth — of which the Amazon is just a part, but a big part — does about 20 percent of all the photosynthesis. But [life in] the oceans does it too, and that’s about half. That means instead of 20 percent, it’s really more like 10 percent, and the Amazon is less than half of that. At most, 5 percent of the world’s oxygen comes from the Amazon." ..."


Brazil's Amazon fires are bad despite burning like this before | Science News
 

LOL!!

It's kind of hard to "not mention" something in an analysis that doesn't exist, don't you think?

Serious question: Why do you even bother to spew nonsense at me?
 
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