The Abandoned Luxury Towers That Graffiti Exposed

[slavablueberryjam]

"All these statements, some would say, proved to be true. Just not in the way originally imagined." pfft, graffitti is trash.

The Abandoned Luxury Towers That Graffiti Exposed

LOS ANGELES — It was a billion-dollar aspiration meant to transform a neighborhood. A trio of shimmering skyscrapers would feature luxury condos, a five-star hotel and an open-air galleria with retailers and restaurants. Among the amenities: private screening rooms, a 2-acre park, pet grooming...

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[Allan]

Even unfinished the buildings have to be worth quite a lot. Someone should be providing security.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

A debacle that wouldn’t happen if we retained the 1924 immigration act.

This project was financed by Chinese concerns and likely was intended solely for the use of Chinese people as Chinese (as well as Indians) largely only deal with their own and the so called “civil rights act” is only intended for enforcement against whites.

So what we have is a Chinese project in an American city with a housing shortage intended only for non americans

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

"All these statements, some would say, proved to be true. Just not in the way originally imagined." pfft, graffitti is trash.

The Abandoned Luxury Towers That Graffiti Exposed

LOS ANGELES — It was a billion-dollar aspiration meant to transform a neighborhood. A trio of shimmering skyscrapers would feature luxury condos, a five-star hotel and an open-air galleria with retailers and restaurants. Among the amenities: private screening rooms, a 2-acre park, pet grooming...

www.yahoo.com

The Chinese exported their zombie cities cancer to Los Angeles.
Let's not let this happen ever again.
Future improvement of trade relations with China should hinge on when (not if) they intend to remove this spectacle at their own cost.
They violated trust on many levels and now appear to be walking away as if nothing happened.
They need a reminder.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

The Chinese exported their zombie cities cancer to Los Angeles.
Let's not let this happen ever again.
Future improvement of trade relations with China should hinge on when (not if) they intend to remove this spectacle at their own cost.
They violated trust on many levels and now appear to be walking away as if nothing happened.
They need a reminder.

If only we had an act. That might exclude the type of people who did this. We used to

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

The Chinese exported their zombie cities cancer to Los Angeles.
Let's not let this happen ever again.
Future improvement of trade relations with China should hinge on when (not if) they intend to remove this spectacle at their own cost.
They violated trust on many levels and now appear to be walking away as if nothing happened.
They need a reminder.

You know an American developer could buy it cheap and finish the development.

Nor exactly a hard thing to do

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

You know an American developer could buy it cheap and finish the development.

Nor exactly a hard thing to do

Yes they could and street gangs would resume the attacks because as far as they're concerned it belongs to them now.
I'd rather see it torn down, the Chinese pay the bill and start completely over.

Yes of course law enforcement CAN and SHOULD deal with these people however the fact is, this project is damaged goods now.
It will not attract the kinds of tenants it was supposed to attract because it now symbolizes failure on too many levels to even begin describing.
The Edsel was a fine car but once the stink was on it, nothing would take the stink away.

This needs to be a painful and costly lesson to the Chinese, otherwise they will continue to Shen Yun their way into avoiding accountability forever and we can't afford that.

 

[Safiel]

Reminds me of this epic failure.



Ocean Tower, which was never completed due to epic failures on the part of the engineering firm responsible for designing it.

 

[Glitch]

A debacle that wouldn’t happen if we retained the 1924 immigration act.

This project was financed by Chinese concerns and likely was intended solely for the use of Chinese people as Chinese (as well as Indians) largely only deal with their own and the so called “civil rights act” is only intended for enforcement against whites.

So what we have is a Chinese project in an American city with a housing shortage intended only for non americans

The Chinese do indeed finance the project. They also built those towers to serve the high Asian population in University Park (20%) and Central (29%) Los Angeles. Both Chinatown and Little Tokyo are also located about 1.5 miles north from those towers. Those with the biggest population in the area are Hispanics. With Asians coming in second, and both blacks and whites coming in a distant third.

So it seems likely that both Asians and Hispanics would make up the majority of the population of those towers, if the project is ever completed, since those populations already comprise the majority that live in the area.

 

[OlNate]

I honestly love graffiti. It's the first art form, its been with us as long as we've been human. Time and place, sure, don't be a vandal or make someone else incur costs by putting your stuff where it shouldn't be, and I really get pissed when I see natural rocks covered in graffiti. But I love seeing trains go by covered with it, or in the places that would otherwise be just dull grey concrete. It breathes character and life into an otherwise dull landscape.

As for the the abandoned buildings, that's crazy. If nothing else they should sieze and repurpose them - perhaps some affordable housing.

 

[jmotivator]

You know an American developer could buy it cheap and finish the development.

Nor exactly a hard thing to do

... It's much harder than you seem to think.

Your estimate relies way too much on estimates based on a photograph.

 

[jmotivator]

The interesting thing about this case is that the Chinese have a very different view of real estate than Western cultures do.

A Chinese investor will sink money in a real estate building project with the assumption that the finished building will never be used. The culture in China is so superstitious than when you buy a new property it is expected that you will tear everything out and replace it to rid the building of the bad luck of the previous owner (it is assumed in China that you only sell real estate when you hit hard times, so every purchased property is assumed to be the result of bad luck). From that the logical, though crazy, conclusion of the Chinese investor is that tey will tear out the wall paper, strip the paint, pull out the wiring, remove the plumbing.. and be done. No rip and replace, just rip.

This attitude has been so pervasive in Chinese culture that the boom in real estate construction in China over the last 20 years, being almost entirely investment properties for a comparative handful of Chinese elites, has led to high rise buildings being built with no electrical wiring and no plumbing because a buyer would only see that as an added expense to be removed on purchase. That insanity has led to what the Chinese people call "tofu dregs" construction throughout the country where the construction companies conclude that since the buildings they are building will never be occupied, they can skip quality construction standards and use substandard materials.

That decline in construction quality has now started to bleed in every facet of the Chinese economy, with steel construction for domestic use skipping essential heat treatment steps leading to domestic steel in China often being very brittle and concrete bricks that turn to mud after a few rains.

For these reasons I would not assume that any Chinese construction, especially construction that was never completed, to be built well.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

The Chinese do indeed finance the project. They also built those towers to serve the high Asian population in University Park (20%) and Central (29%) Los Angeles. Both Chinatown and Little Tokyo are also located about 1.5 miles north from those towers. Those with the biggest population in the area are Hispanics. With Asians coming in second, and both blacks and whites coming in a distant third.

So it seems likely that both Asians and Hispanics would make up the majority of the population of those towers, if the project is ever completed, since those populations already comprise the majority that live in the area.

I doubt very many if any Hispanics would end up in those towers unless they were employees of Chinese firms. Chinese are very racist and they only help their own if they can get away with it