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That no one wears face shields proves no one REALLY believes what they say about masks

How the **** should I know? Do you? I prefer to take precautions as advised by people who know what they're talking about, rather than whine about 'rights' and 'constitutions' and alleged violations thereof.

Right, you don't ****ing know. They don't ****ing know either. Stop pretending you know more than you do or that your entitled yo force everyone to live their lives in a way that conforms to your satisfaction. You can take all the ****ing precautions you like but you cant dictate to others how to live or shame them for not sharing your hollier than thou opinion.

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Right, you don't ****ing know. They don't ****ing know either. Stop pretending you know more than you do or that your entitled yo force everyone to live their lives in a way that conforms to your satisfaction. You can take all the ****ing precautions you like but you cant dictate to others how to live or shame them for not sharing your hollier than thou opinion.

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I'm forcing nobody; simply taking common sense precautions like most folk in Europe; that's why our rates of infection and death are dropping rapidly while those in America are going through the roof-because 'freedom!' I'm quite happy for stupid people to continue being stupid, your ridiculous rant notwithstanding.
 
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Actually yes I have argued that in the past. If you disagree with me about masks, thats fine, but argue why instead of trying to deflect by accusing me of being some kind of hypocrite.
Whats even more puzzling is that I did not argue that the gov does not have the authority to mandate something for the purpose of public safety. What I have said is that if they are going to make that argument they need stronger evidence than they have produced.
What seems to getting lost on the those of you insisting that we all must wear masks is that they dont have the science to support it. These people are goving their opinion. They know very little about this virus and what the best approach is to combating it.

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Except laws against public nudity prove you wrong. They don't need any stronger evidence at all to make such things mandatory.

And there have been studies that show that wearing masks reduces the spread of the virus. It doesnt completely prevent it or block it. It has been shown to buy time for the medical resources to catch up, not be overwhelmed, provide effective medicine to combat the virus (including proper testing), which is the point.

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What science is lacking, in your opinion? Every medic you talk to says wearing a mask helps prevent the wearer passing on the virus; why else do medical staff all wear them if they don't do anything? It isn't 100% effective but it's a hell of a lot better than nothing. ALL medics give an opinion and sometimes request a second opinion from another if there may be some doubt about a diagnosis, for example. The legal profession is no different in that regard.

No, there are many medics and many other healthcare professionals who have pointed out the folly of masks.

The thing is they are censored by MSM and various social media including YouTube. Their acts are portrayed as radical because this is very much a time of universal deception.
 
No, there are many medics and many other healthcare professionals who have pointed out the folly of masks.

The thing is they are censored by MSM and various social media including YouTube. Their acts are portrayed as radical because this is very much a time of universal deception.

"Folly"? Care to share with us who these 'many...healthcare professionals' are? Chiropractors and homeopathy peddlers don't count.
 
"Folly"? Care to share with us who these 'many...healthcare professionals' are? Chiropractors and homeopathy peddlers don't count.

Someone's cousin from the sticks, who looked at an anatomy book once, said something some time ago.
 
Yes, the guidance on masks changed, but now it's very coherent on what to do.
Cult members are stuck on the first thing they hear, and refuse to adapt as new information becomes available.
If it was known "science" in March it is still science now. The purpose of the mask is to maintain the fear. 14 or 30 days wasn't enough to flatten the US economy.

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Did you ever hear the phrase, 'lead by example'? Everything Trump has said about Covid-19 is designed to minimise, downplay and marginalise a horrible pandemic-and all because he wants his 'numbers' to look good for the forthcoming election. Didn't he say he wanted less testing done because the numbers 'look bad' otherwise? Why yes, yes he did; thus political.

Say, can you name any Democrat governor who gives updates wearing a mask? Trump has the best doctor on his staff protecting Trump from getting caught with COVID19.

Cuomo who leads America with deaths, watch him.

 
If it was known "science" in March it is still science now. The purpose of the mask is to maintain the fear. 14 or 30 days wasn't enough to flatten the US economy.

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The idea now for the Democrats is to flatten the economy.
 
Say, can you name any Democrat governor who gives updates wearing a mask? Trump has the best doctor on his staff protecting Trump from getting caught with COVID19.

Cuomo who leads America with deaths, watch him.



Is Cuomo in close proximity to anyone? The most visited, most densely populated city in America and what do you expect? Trump is a ****ing moron who refuses to wear a mask because it makes him 'look bad'. Not everyone can afford to have his personal physician following him around.
 
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Then by all means do like any random person does because you are incapable of making your own informed decisions. Is that what it takes to be in the Trump cult? Try using your head and taking advice from people that might actually know what is important. Wear a mask or face covering when indoors shopping or on public transit and when ever you can't social distance outdoors.

Or do as Cuomo does.

 
If people believed one thing works, they would be doing a different thing!

Joko, take your meds.

I wonder if Helix pinged you for this post!
 
Is Cuomo in close proximity to anyone? The most visited, most densely populated city in America and what do you expect? Trump is a ****ing moron who refuses to wear a mask because it makes him 'look bad'. Not everyone can afford to have his personal physician following him around.

Cuomo is not in NY City, but in Albany NY. Closer to Canada. And it is done all the time by Cuomo yet he leads America with nursing home deaths. And due to his orders.

 
Our rates of infection, hospital admission and death are falling through the floor, as in the rest of Europe-and why? Because we spent time sensibly protecting ourselves instead of whining about 'rights' and 'constitution'. How about you?

As U.K. Brings Coronavirus Infection Rate Down, Pubs Cautiously Reopen : NPR

Here Democrats promised a safe America if only we wore masks. We wore them and infections steeply rose. So your ignoring the photo of those of England protesting? And carrying signs black lives matter with few masks on. I don't blame you since you choose deception.
 
Here Democrats promised a safe America if only we wore masks. We wore them and infections steeply rose. So your ignoring the photo of those of England protesting? And carrying signs black lives matter with few masks on. I don't blame you since you choose deception.

No, you didn't wear them, and that's why Texas is now mandating them because you lot were too damn stupid and arrogant to follow advice, hence your rapid rise in infections after lockdowns were lifted. Florida is even worse. Is the phrase, 'common sense' in a foreign language you can't understand?
 
Everyone is told should be wearing face masks to protect others from potentially deadly infection when we leave the house . But face masks can be hot, and they can irritate the skin, fog glasses, make it difficult for some to breathe and create a world without smiles. It also can be difficult for people who have hearing loss to communicate when mouths are covered, muffling voices and hiding facial expressions.

Are clear plastic face shields, most frequently used in health care settings, a better option?

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention continues to recommend wearing “cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain.” But some health experts say shields appear to be very effective at preventing infection — maybe even more effective than masks — for someone going about regular daily activities and not in a high-risk health care setting.

Face Shields May Be Better Than Masks for COVID-19
Universal Face Shields: A Better Option for COVID-19 Containment?
What We Know About Face Shields and Coronavirus - WSJ

From the start, it was explained that face shields offer more protection than masks - and that was medical grade masks. Almost no one wears medical grade masks and there are ZERO studies about homemade masks. A face shield does not restrict your breathing. It does not have you increasingly breathing hot, wet bacteria and virus packed air. It does not reduce you oxygen intake. Doesn't increase you heart rate and blood pressure.
Yet no one wears a face shield. This proves people wear masks for only 2 reasons: Talking heads on TV tell them to - though they aren't wearing a face mask while doing so and 2.) peer pressure to wear a mask - and peer pressure not to wear a face shield.

No one REALLY believes masks help. If they REALLY cared about covid-19 they would be wearing a face shield.

The emphasis on wearing masks is a political stunt. Trump doesn't wear them and Biden does, for example.

There are many aspects of protection with social distancing. Each additional social distancing protection further lowers the odds of getting Covid.

I guess if Trump wants to get the 'upper hand' in this debate of who's more safe, he needs to shelter in place since the shelter in place is the most secure social distancing measure that can be taken.:roll:

And, well, Trump doesn't wear masks but Biden endorsed the no social distancing, the no hand cleanliness and the no shelter in place of the riots, er, protests.
 
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