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That no one wears face shields proves no one REALLY believes what they say about masks

Yes, the guidance on masks changed, but now it's very coherent on what to do.
Cult members are stuck on the first thing they hear, and refuse to adapt as new information becomes available.

They're simply following Trump's example who regurgitates whatever the last idiot on Fox said. Did you know that wind turbines can give you cancer?
 
Yes, the guidance on masks changed, but now it's very coherent on what to do.
Cult members are stuck on the first thing they hear, and refuse to adapt as new information becomes available.

Congradulations on getting your dig in. You claim that its now very coherent but that isnt the reality. Reality is that the expert still dont know what they are up against or what the best way to combat it is. Masks and social distance in conjuction with practicing good hygiene are good general practices to combat spreading all germs. The hysterics being attached to this is nonsensical

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Wear a f...ing covering over you nose and mouth. Anything that prevents the virus laden droplets from spewing out when you talk or breath. Is that "coherent" enough for you?

It's coherent enough, but thoroughly infused with fear.
 
C The hysterics being attached to this is nonsensical

I cant help but assume the hysterics you're referring to are not the conservative media telling people its just a cold or flu, or trump touting unproven treatments or injecting bleach, or the narrative that the partial shutdowns were unnecessary or even that wearing a mask is out of control govt tyranny. Can you explain the "hysterics" you're referring to. thanks in advance.

Also, I didnt follow the OP"s "narrative" that me not wearing a shield proves I dont think masks work. You seem to have no issues with the thread. Can you explain the logic for me. Again, thanks in advance.
 
literal Trump supporters trying every end around they can to save Trump's face during an actual pandemic.


it's disgraceful.
 
If the masks work then reopen everything. If the masks do not work then the mask mandate is bull****. Pick one.

You can't open everything. Try to eat at a restaurant or drink at a bar with a mask on. It doesn't work does it.
 
It's coherent enough, but thoroughly infused with fear.

My State is reporting 10,000+ new cases a day. We will need to shut down again if people won't wear face covering. You don't care about that either?
 
You can't open everything. Try to eat at a restaurant or drink at a bar with a mask on. It doesn't work does it.
I don't go to resteraunts and bars. I was thinking of all the buisnesses that we're forced to shut down, putting people out of work. I would settle for being able to buy groceries when I get off work.
 
I don't go to resteraunts and bars. I was thinking of all the buisnesses that we're forced to shut down, putting people out of work. I would settle for being able to buy groceries when I get off work.

So you really don't believe any of this because you can order groceries online.
 
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This is how effective a surgical mask is at blocking viruses.

Homemade masks are so harmful to the wearer and so spread viruses and bacteria they don't even pretend any study can be done of those.

There are reasons why until May 2020 it was advised people NOT wear a mask. Even those so-called experts on TV who do actually are saying "Everything I told you about not wearing a mask and every expert in the world all have been lying to you for decades. Believe me now when I tell you everyone else and myself were lying. But you can believe me now. Wear a mask - any kind of mask - it doesn't matter."
 
Congradulations on getting your dig in. You claim that its now very coherent but that isnt the reality. Reality is that the expert still dont know what they are up against or what the best way to combat it is. Masks and social distance in conjuction with practicing good hygiene are good general practices to combat spreading all germs. The hysterics being attached to this is nonsensical

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Yet, it's only the cult members who are protesting masks.
 
So you really don't believe any of this because you can order groceries online.
I can place the order, sure, but they're closed when I get off work, so....
 
Masks are worn under shields.

it does not replace the mask

I just ordered a pair of face shields, one for me & one for my wife. They seem to be universally used in ICUs & ERs because of COVID.
 
Yet, it's only the cult members who are protesting masks.
My best friend is an ardent democrat who I argue with endlessly and I have yet to see him wear a mask

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Everyone is told should be wearing face masks to protect others from potentially deadly infection when we leave the house . But face masks can be hot, and they can irritate the skin, fog glasses, make it difficult for some to breathe and create a world without smiles. It also can be difficult for people who have hearing loss to communicate when mouths are covered, muffling voices and hiding facial expressions.

Are clear plastic face shields, most frequently used in health care settings, a better option?

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention continues to recommend wearing “cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain.” But some health experts say shields appear to be very effective at preventing infection — maybe even more effective than masks — for someone going about regular daily activities and not in a high-risk health care setting.

Face Shields May Be Better Than Masks for COVID-19
Universal Face Shields: A Better Option for COVID-19 Containment?
What We Know About Face Shields and Coronavirus - WSJ

From the start, it was explained that face shields offer more protection than masks - and that was medical grade masks. Almost no one wears medical grade masks and there are ZERO studies about homemade masks. A face shield does not restrict your breathing. It does not have you increasingly breathing hot, wet bacteria and virus packed air. It does not reduce you oxygen intake. Doesn't increase you heart rate and blood pressure.
Yet no one wears a face shield. This proves people wear masks for only 2 reasons: Talking heads on TV tell them to - though they aren't wearing a face mask while doing so and 2.) peer pressure to wear a mask - and peer pressure not to wear a face shield.

No one REALLY believes masks help. If they REALLY cared about covid-19 they would be wearing a face shield.

you can get for $4.97 at sams club
 
My best friend is an ardent democrat who I argue with endlessly and I have yet to see him wear a mask

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Then by all means do like any random person does because you are incapable of making your own informed decisions. Is that what it takes to be in the Trump cult? Try using your head and taking advice from people that might actually know what is important. Wear a mask or face covering when indoors shopping or on public transit and when ever you can't social distance outdoors.
 
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Then by all means do like any random person does because you are incapable of making your own informed decisions. Is that what it takes to be in the Trump cult? Try using your head and taking advice from people that might actually know what is important. Wear a mask or face covering when indoors shopping or on public transit and when ever you can't social distance outdoors.
I only mentioned it because someone claimed that it is only trump supporters resisting wearing masks. He is about as far away as you can get from being a Trump supporter and he is not buying into this mask hysteria either.

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Do you wear a face shield?
I've seen several people wearing them around here. It's not nearly as common as masks, which are far less expensive or bulky, but is being done.

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No need to get nasty about it. Your the one contradicting yourself, not me.

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It's just more evidence libs don't really believe, or even care if masks are effective. It's all about control, and getting rid of the bad orange man. If it were about saving lives, libs wouldn't be trying to beat people into submission, both figuratively, and literally.
 
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This is how effective a surgical mask is at blocking viruses.

Homemade masks are so harmful to the wearer and so spread viruses and bacteria they don't even pretend any study can be done of those.

There are reasons why until May 2020 it was advised people NOT wear a mask. Even those so-called experts on TV who do actually are saying "Everything I told you about not wearing a mask and every expert in the world all have been lying to you for decades. Believe me now when I tell you everyone else and myself were lying. But you can believe me now. Wear a mask - any kind of mask - it doesn't matter."

I can't wait for your explanation as to why Europe has seen a dramatic drop in cases as compared to your exponential increase. I know the reason, do you?
 
It's just more evidence libs don't really believe, or even care if masks are effective. It's all about control, and getting rid of the bad orange man. If it were about saving lives, libs wouldn't be trying to beat people into submission, both figuratively, and literally.

No, you think it's about 'control' and in a sense you're correct; but it's about controlling the spread of a killer pandemic, not some imagined nefarious deep-state plot to control you personally.
 
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This is how effective a surgical mask is at blocking viruses.

Homemade masks are so harmful to the wearer and so spread viruses and bacteria they don't even pretend any study can be done of those.

There are reasons why until May 2020 it was advised people NOT wear a mask. Even those so-called experts on TV who do actually are saying "Everything I told you about not wearing a mask and every expert in the world all have been lying to you for decades. Believe me now when I tell you everyone else and myself were lying. But you can believe me now. Wear a mask - any kind of mask - it doesn't matter."
You do know that viruses and the medium they are carried in are not equivalent to smoke, right? They are different.

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there are ZERO studies about homemade masks.

That's not true.

It does not have you increasingly breathing hot, wet bacteria and virus packed air.

This is stupid for two reasons. One, if it's causing you to rebreathe bacteria and viruses, then it's reducing the amount of those that others might breathe. Two, your "hot" breath is body temperature, which is ideal for your body, by definition, and any viruses or bacteria in your exhaled air came from inside of you, so breathing them back in is medically irrelevant.

It does not reduce you oxygen intake. Doesn't increase you heart rate and blood pressure.
Yet no one wears a face shield.

If that's an issue for you, then go ahead and wear a face shield. No one is stopping you.
 
Everyone is told should be wearing face masks to protect others from potentially deadly infection when we leave the house . But face masks can be hot, and they can irritate the skin, fog glasses, make it difficult for some to breathe and create a world without smiles. It also can be difficult for people who have hearing loss to communicate when mouths are covered, muffling voices and hiding facial expressions.

Are clear plastic face shields, most frequently used in health care settings, a better option?

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention continues to recommend wearing “cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain.” But some health experts say shields appear to be very effective at preventing infection — maybe even more effective than masks — for someone going about regular daily activities and not in a high-risk health care setting.

Face Shields May Be Better Than Masks for COVID-19
Universal Face Shields: A Better Option for COVID-19 Containment?
What We Know About Face Shields and Coronavirus - WSJ

From the start, it was explained that face shields offer more protection than masks - and that was medical grade masks. Almost no one wears medical grade masks and there are ZERO studies about homemade masks. A face shield does not restrict your breathing. It does not have you increasingly breathing hot, wet bacteria and virus packed air. It does not reduce you oxygen intake. Doesn't increase you heart rate and blood pressure.
Yet no one wears a face shield. This proves people wear masks for only 2 reasons: Talking heads on TV tell them to - though they aren't wearing a face mask while doing so and 2.) peer pressure to wear a mask - and peer pressure not to wear a face shield.

No one REALLY believes masks help. If they REALLY cared about covid-19 they would be wearing a face shield.

Oh please we know from the information coming out that the risk of death is remarkably low and confined by nearly 80 percent to over 70 and with preexisting conditions. I hate to inform you but that's pretty normal for the elderly in the world. This "Great Fear" is just an attempt to control the U.S. both politically and economically. You have politics in America trying to win a election and you have China trying to mitigate the damage to China's economy by Trump forcing better trade deals with the U.S. and the China virus that they let get out. It hit them hard and they let it spread out from Wuhan to cause the same damage on the rest of the industrialized world. Keeping all things even.
So mask don't do much good, social distancing must not matter, because our liberal politicians think riots and protests where the participants are elbow to elbow is OK. Sort of ruins their hype.
If the liberal, socialist, communist idealogies win this battle the U.S. is going to suffer badly. Liberal Democrats and liberal Tech giants don't care, because they can afford the mess and don't care about jobs.
 
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