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Thailand Shooting Spree

Luther said:
They must make it more difficult to get weapons in the Tai military(LOL)

Background checks

Registering guns etc...
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I can't understand how there's anything funny about this tragic story.
 
HumblePi said:
I can't understand how there's anything funny about this tragic story.
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It's not funny

I was bringing up the same political arguments that we go around and around in circles with

So after your emotion, this is what we're stuck with
 
Luther said:
They must make it more difficult to get weapons in the Tai military(LOL)

Background checks

Registering guns etc...
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It's for this very reason that military weapons are supposed to be kept under close guard. This man murdered his commanding officer and then robbed the armory. I guarantee you the Thai military will be looking to improve their weapon security after this incident, as they should. That's the sane, rational response.
 
Irredentist said:
It's for this very reason that military weapons are supposed to be kept under close guard. This man murdered his commanding officer and then robbed the armory. I guarantee you the Thai military will be looking to improve their weapon security after this incident, as they should. That's the sane, rational response.
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Well, what about taking weapons away from our military members on our bases and they're still getting shot up?
 
Moonglow said:
Yes they do but with or without firearms allowed people will find a way to kill if they so desire.
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Weapons should be distributed on an as needed basis. Only sentries should be carrying them on base.
 
Luther said:
Well, what about taking weapons away from our military members on our bases and they're still getting shot up?
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Weapons are very restricted on military installations... Ironically, the chance of being a victim of gun violence on military installations is much lower than the surrounding communities...
 
Moonglow said:
Soldiers can carry(private weapons) on a military base since 2016.
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Pretty vague comment Moonglow.

Specifically, the new policy will allow certain service members to apply for permission to carry a privately owned firearm "for personal protection not associated with the performance of official duties."

According to the directive, military service members wanting to take advantage of this new policy permitting concealed carry on military bases must be at least 21 years old, meet all federal, state, and local laws, and receive permission from a commander with a minimum rank of O-5 (Lieutenant Colonel or Commander). Personnel will only be permitted to carry a personally owned firearm "when there is a general or specific threat of possible harm directed against them when that threat relates to the person's official duties or status

Also, personnel who want to carry a privately owned firearm on a military installation must acknowledge "they may be personally liable for the injuries, death, and property damage proximately caused by negligence in connection with the possession or use of privately owned firearms that are not within the scope of their federal employment." Furthermore, only applicants with a clean disciplinary record will be considered.

Finally, the new policy only authorizes concealed carry on military bases for up to 90-day increments, which may be extended if a specific threat exists to justify the need to carry a personally owned firearm.

The new regulations also give commanders authorization to permit personnel at recruiting stations and reserve centers to carry concealed firearms as well.

So, this new regulation is more akin to a "may issue" concealed carry law than a "shall issue" or a "constitutional carry" law. The new policy also does not recognize any state concealed carry permits.

While this new Defense Department directive regarding concealed carry on military bases does not go as far as some people hoped, it does still provide members of the military with some more tools protect themselves from domestic terrorist attacks and other threats.


Pentagon Authorizes (Conditional) Concealed Carry on Military Bases
 
RetiredUSN said:
Pretty vague comment Moonglow.

Specifically, the new policy will allow certain service members to apply for permission to carry a privately owned firearm "for personal protection not associated with the performance of official duties."

According to the directive, military service members wanting to take advantage of this new policy permitting concealed carry on military bases must be at least 21 years old, meet all federal, state, and local laws, and receive permission from a commander with a minimum rank of O-5 (Lieutenant Colonel or Commander). Personnel will only be permitted to carry a personally owned firearm "when there is a general or specific threat of possible harm directed against them when that threat relates to the person's official duties or status

Also, personnel who want to carry a privately owned firearm on a military installation must acknowledge "they may be personally liable for the injuries, death, and property damage proximately caused by negligence in connection with the possession or use of privately owned firearms that are not within the scope of their federal employment." Furthermore, only applicants with a clean disciplinary record will be considered.

Finally, the new policy only authorizes concealed carry on military bases for up to 90-day increments, which may be extended if a specific threat exists to justify the need to carry a personally owned firearm.

The new regulations also give commanders authorization to permit personnel at recruiting stations and reserve centers to carry concealed firearms as well.

So, this new regulation is more akin to a "may issue" concealed carry law than a "shall issue" or a "constitutional carry" law. The new policy also does not recognize any state concealed carry permits.

While this new Defense Department directive regarding concealed carry on military bases does not go as far as some people hoped, it does still provide members of the military with some more tools protect themselves from domestic terrorist attacks and other threats.


Pentagon Authorizes (Conditional) Concealed Carry on Military Bases
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Pretty vague yet correct.
 
BlueTex said:
Weapons are very restricted on military installations... Ironically, the chance of being a victim of gun violence on military installations is much lower than the surrounding communities...
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That's not the point

The point is they're not armed and are a "sitting duck"
 
Luther said:
That's not the point

The point is they're not armed and are a "sitting duck"
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LMAO... The point isn't that they are safer from gun violence on military installations than off base? Seems like a pretty good argument that strict regulation makes everyone safer... :2razz:
 
I hope the shooter didn't get the idea of killing all those people from America.

It's bad enough that we go around killing each other, we don't need our mental illness spreading to other countries.
 
Moonglow said:
Soldiers can carry(private weapons) on a military base since 2016.
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*cough*


, many locations do not allow any personal firearms to be brought on the installation or stored in base housing or barracks. Troops living in barracks or other similar quarters who own personal weapons typically must register and store them in a base firearms storage facility. You should check with your local base to learn rules specific to that installation.
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Can You Carry a Gun on a Military Base? | Military.com
 
Luther said:
*sigh*

Again, you're missing the point

MILITARY

2009 Fort Hood shooting - Wikipedia
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I'm not missing the point at all... The weapon used in that incident was brought in from off base and was not allowed on base. Even with this attack, the point remains, soldiers, sailors airmen and marines are safer from gun violence on their posts than off.
 
BlueTex said:
I'm not missing the point at all... The weapon used in that incident was brought in from off base and was not allowed on base. Even with this attack, the point remains, soldiers, sailors airmen and marines are safer from gun violence on their posts than off.
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Even with this attack, the point remains, soldiers, sailors airmen and marines are safer from gun violence on their posts than off.
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Is this simply because there are fewer of them?

Also, The real point is they're still sitting ducks and they're our military
 
Luther said:
Is this simply because there are fewer of them?

Also, The real point is they're still sitting ducks and they're our military
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Have you ever served? Ever even been on a military installation?
 
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