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Texas is now in a World of Hurt

calamity said:
FL just posted 216 deaths. That is a new high for the state, IIRC.

Florida Coronavirus: 451,423 Cases and 6,335 Deaths (COVID-19 ) - Worldometer

Yep, previous high was 186.
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If you notice, the places I was saying was going down did not include Florida, even if the new infections appear to be leveling off. I don't trust the numbers coming from Florida, They have shown they were tampering with them. One issue I have is that it doesn't matter if you tamper with the numbers, it is the actions you take that matter. THe virus doesn't care. It will just spread where the opportunity for it to spread is, and that entirely is on the hands of how the population protects itself (and others).
 
RAMOSS said:
The baseline is still high, but the numbers over a seven day average are down. The pattern in NY was there was a huge spike without the masks, and then a gradual decline ones the masks were put in place.
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In every jurisdiction (except the United States) the pattern of spread has been similar. A sudden and substantial spike, followed by a lengthy tail (trail off). We were on that trajectory (like NY, NJ) as broad mask orders were implemented and took hold, but the United States is very interconnected, so spikes have occurred where mask resistance is high, and measures were implemented late. The next "discovery", I think, will be the realization of how infectious asymptomatic/pre-symptomatic carriers can be (a la Florida Marlins).

A national mask mandate would be a game-changer.
 
NWRatCon said:
In every jurisdiction (except the United States) the pattern of spread has been similar. A sudden and substantial spike, followed by a lengthy tail (trail off). We were on that trajectory (like NY, NJ) as broad mask orders were implemented and took hold, but the United States is very interconnected, so spikes have occurred where mask resistance is high, and measures were implemented late. The next "discovery", I think, will be the realization of how infectious asymptomatic/pre-symptomatic carriers can be (a la Florida Marlins).

A national mask mandate would be a game-changer.
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I agree. The mask can prevent the initial spikes, and it also , in combination with constant testing and vigilance manage to keep things reasonably under control in places that have come down. It can not be stopped until every place have it entirely under control. I'll let the experts say when we can stop wearing masks.. but in my county , after having .5% for a long time, had a day with a 5% infection rate. I don't know if it's because of the state jails, or if it is because they allowed a horse show with lots of visitors from other states attend.
 
Jonsa said:
Excuse me, while I recognize your challenge with logic and common sense as a die hard trumpian, but I have logic, common sense, ethics, integrity, and a mountain of evidence to support my extreme animus towards Benedict Donald.

Funny how you want to question my motives - political forums have been a hobby of mine for a few decades now - but refuse to actually address the content of my posts.

That you think its all just left wing propaganda against your beloved leader - 147,000 DEAD OVER 4 MILLION INFECTED. great job brownie.
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Are you blaming those covid 19 deaths on Trump? Grow a bit of objectivity. If not for Trump halting travel to the US from China and Europe when he did, it would be over 2 million dead.
 
Conservative said:
6 months into this pandemic and you are still blaming Trump for the state and local government actions, that is quite stunning even for a liberal
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It's amusing how the the libruls want to blame Trump for everything that does not get done at the state and local level, yet when Trump sends federal law enforcement officers to places like Seattle to stop lunatic rioters and arsonists from burning down federal courthouses they scream bloody murder.
 
Jonsa said:
That the entire horrific clustermuck that is corona virus has EVERYTHING to do with Trump.

WTF IS LEADERSHIP ALL ABOUT IN TRUMPWORLD?

Only a trumpster could argue that The President is only responsible for good **** that goes on either by design, accident or just an opportunity to grab unmerited credit (like his bull**** VET schtick).

Nope all the bad stuff is consistently somebody else's responsibility especially when everyone is being mean and nasty to your dear glorious leader.

And repeating the same bull**** fallacy attacking the source and not the content. I've observed that generally speaking fallacy and projection seem to be the only debating tools at your command.
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Nothing but incoherent hyperpartisan blather. Grow some objectivity.
 
Jonsa said:
A pandemic is a NATIONAL CRISIS effecting VERY Citizen. It is a direct threat to national security. It is a direct threat to the economy. and you think its up to the governors to sort it out themselves?
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However the governors and locals, local responders, as well as the president share responsibility We are 50 United States, not one big state. Or do you expect the President to control every action in every city in every state? After all, it was only a couple months ago that you libruls were screaming like banshees over Trump claiming authority over governors over when to open the economy in their states.


What a deep understanding of the constitution and executive powers you have. So deep virtually nobody else can find it.
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Look who's talking. You want to blame anything and everything that goes wrong on Trump. You show no understanding of the US Constitution whatsoever.

Keep projecting your own ignorance illogic and irrationality. Its okay I totally understand you are in a perfect storm of dunning kruger, confirmation bias, backfire effect and selective memory so naturally your vision of American Greatness is as screwed up as the man you think manifests it.
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Sounds like an acute case of TDS.
 
ObamacareFail said:
Are you blaming those covid 19 deaths on Trump? Grow a bit of objectivity. If not for Trump halting travel to the US from China and Europe when he did, it would be over 2 million dead.
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What nonsense. Would have been Over 2 million dead and the number grows with each retelling and great bull**** for some people to lap up in defense of Benedict Trump's utter failure to lead.

Get back to us with the compelling assessment that concluded his prompt action saved millions. I'll wait.
 
ObamacareFail said:
However the governors and locals, local responders, as well as the president share responsibility We are 50 United States, not one big state. Or do you expect the President to control every action in every city in every state? After all, it was only a couple months ago that you libruls were screaming like banshees over Trump claiming authority over governors over when to open the economy in their states.




Look who's talking. You want to blame anything and everything that goes wrong on Trump. You show no understanding of the US Constitution whatsoever.



Sounds like an acute case of TDS.
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oh my. aren't we totally in defensive mode with zero understanding of the leadership role the president plays in national emergencies. unlike those before him Trump has absolved himself on responsibility. He sets a horrific example for the nation, he promotes outrageous misinformation, he continually touts the great job he's doing despite 150K dead and over 4 million and rapidly rising cases, he has not gotten testing ramped up and a large % of tests currently being done are useless because it takes a week or more to get the results.

Your defense of trump is as pathetic as his ignorance is arrogant.
 
ObamacareFail said:
However the governors and locals, local responders, as well as the president share responsibility We are 50 United States, not one big state. Or do you expect the President to control every action in every city in every state? After all, it was only a couple months ago that you libruls were screaming like banshees over Trump claiming authority over governors over when to open the economy in their states.




Look who's talking. You want to blame anything and everything that goes wrong on Trump. You show no understanding of the US Constitution whatsoever.



Sounds like an acute case of TDS.
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Your president just killed Herm Cain. I wonder if he cares.
 
Everything is bigger in Texas, including our covid-19 case total. We hit 420,000, which is more than New York. Should I say winning?
 
Jonsa said:
oh my. aren't we totally in defensive mode with zero understanding of the leadership role the president plays in national emergencies. unlike those before him Trump has absolved himself on responsibility. He sets a horrific example for the nation, he promotes outrageous misinformation, he continually touts the great job he's doing despite 150K dead and over 4 million and rapidly rising cases, he has not gotten testing ramped up and a large % of tests currently being done are useless because it takes a week or more to get the results.

Your defense of trump is as pathetic as his ignorance is arrogant.
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More TDS.
 
NWRatCon said:
I truly feel for you, my friend. As a human being who has suffered loss, I genuinely understand.
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I apologize for my last post to you in that other thread (I can’t do this there). I shouldn’t have gotten so defensive about it and your comments are understandable.
 
X Factor said:
I apologize for my last post to you in that other thread (I can’t do this there). I shouldn’t have gotten so defensive about it and your comments are understandable.
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Thank you.
 
The final count for the day is in, and it's not good.

Gross Deaths:
TX: 322
FL: 252
AZ: 172
CA: 113

Deaths per Million:
AZ: 24
FL: 13
TX: 11
CA: 3
 
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