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Teacher has sex with 13 year old boy

maquiscat said:
First, I will always empathize a male teacher or store worker over a random female every time. Again, being the group they are and also on the job, they are exponentially less likely to molest, yet alone be a molester. All things being equal outside of knowing the profession, sure given current statistics, i won't disagree with your point, but I have to wonder. Given the extreme bias that we are seeing even here, are we getting an accurate number on female pedophiles (using the colloquial as opposed to the actual term)? Look at what VanceMack had to say.



This is giving a pass to female pedophiles, his caveats aside. Would such women actually get counted as child sexual molesters? I have to question how skewed the data is due to this preconception.
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Not giving it a pass at all...and I also state its still wrong and it will have all the negative damage any adult/child relationship will have. Just saying it is less psychologically devastating.
 
VanceMack said:
Not giving it a pass at all...and I also state its still wrong and it will have all the negative damage any adult/child relationship will have. Just saying it is less psychologically devastating.
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I'd agree with this.
 
VanceMack said:
Not giving it a pass at all...and I also state its still wrong and it will have all the negative damage any adult/child relationship will have. Just saying it is less psychologically devastating.
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First, if it is less psychologically devastating then it doesn't have all the negative damage.

Secondly, i used your words as an example of the general thought process out there over all, which is why I had to set aside your caveats. These statements do give a pass to female pedophiles, because then they are not considered pedophiles. And given that, I still have to question how skewed the statistics are, given the preconception.
 
maquiscat said:
First, if it is less psychologically devastating then it doesn't have all the negative damage.

Secondly, i used your words as an example of the general thought process out there over all, which is why I had to set aside your caveats. These statements do give a pass to female pedophiles, because then they are not considered pedophiles. And given that, I still have to question how skewed the statistics are, given the preconception.
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Its OK. I dont think you have to agree. Lots of peoples opinions vary. And again...NOTHING I said should be taken or construed as there is no impact. Quite the opposite. Its just not as psychologically devastating to the victim AS a victim.

I have seen a young man that swore he was fine...had no negative impact from being a victim of a female predator...defended her...and when it was found out she had 3 other victims at the same time he wasnt pissed at her, he was mad at them for trying to steal his 'woman'. His protestation of negative consequence came back to bite him in the ass when his family attempted a civil suit, but my letter to the court was quite clear...its not uncommon for the adolescent mind to not perceive the damage done. That doesnt mean that WE as reasoned and rational adults dont KNOW and understand that there is damage done.
 
VanceMack said:
Its OK. I dont think you have to agree. Lots of peoples opinions vary. And again...NOTHING I said should be taken or construed as there is no impact. Quite the opposite. Its just not as psychologically devastating to the victim AS a victim.

I have seen a young man that swore he was fine...had no negative impact from being a victim of a female predator...defended her...and when it was found out she had 3 other victims at the same time he wasnt pissed at her, he was mad at them for trying to steal his 'woman'. His protestation of negative consequence came back to bite him in the ass when his family attempted a civil suit, but my letter to the court was quite clear...its not uncommon for the adolescent mind to not perceive the damage done. That doesnt mean that WE as reasoned and rational adults dont KNOW and understand that there is damage done.
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The father said it best when he confronted the woman. "You stole his childhood."

I tend to agree with that statement.
 
VanceMack said:
..its not uncommon for the adolescent mind to not perceive the damage done. That doesnt mean that WE as reasoned and rational adults dont KNOW and understand that there is damage done.
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THIS! This is the point that the others who are claiming that there is no or little harm are missing.
 
VanceMack said:
Not giving it a pass at all...and I also state its still wrong and it will have all the negative damage any adult/child relationship will have. Just saying it is less psychologically devastating.
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Doesn't that depend on the nature of the abuse. We are talking about an adult that is a sexual deviant who persues 13 year old boys. Often times just starting puberty.

It really depends on the nature of the abuse. Just because the abuser is female doesn't mean it isn't cruel.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Doesn't that depend on the nature of the abuse. We are talking about an adult that is a sexual deviant who persues 13 year old boys. Often times just starting puberty.

It really depends on the nature of the abuse. Just because the abuser is female doesn't mean it isn't cruel.
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yes...thats also been clarified. there is a radical difference in the victim response from a child that has been manipulated into thinking that it is a mutually beneficial relationship to a straight up sexual assault.
 
VanceMack said:
yes...thats also been clarified. there is a radical difference in the victim response from a child that has been manipulated into thinking that it is a mutually beneficial relationship to a straight up sexual assault.
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It was more “mental rape” than physical assault. It’s no different than a male adult taking advantage of a female teen with a schoolgirl crush. Albeit, I can see where a boy considers it more as a score than being played and dumped.

He’s probably lucky dad found out, because it looks like crazy teacher lady was not too far from going psycho on him.
 
Getting back to one of my earlier posts: being sat on a jury in this case. I would definitely arrive to trial with a hard not guilty in mind. However, I would certainly take the judge's instructions to heart, give serious consideration to the laws involved and then probably allow myself to be convinced by fellow jury members like Vance up there who slowly sway me to change my mind.

In this case there are several undeniable facts.

1. Crazy lady is hot enough to want to ****.

2. Crazy lady broke several laws regardless how hot she is and how badly teenage boy wanted to **** her.

3. Boy was only 13, definitely far to young for a crazy 27-yr-old to **** with.

4. Crazy lady was stupid and admitted guilt on tape

5. Crazy lady also showed signs of being a psycho controlling ****, which brings the whole having sex with a 13-year-old into proper perspective.
 
swing_voter said:


It's an old double standard. Society will jail a male teacher who has sex with a female student, while a female teacher having sex with a boy is often overlooked.

The boy calls the teach Ms Zamorra which is funny.
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We didn't jail this guy for groping a young girl 4:25
 
AlphaOmega said:
We didn't jail this guy for groping a young girl 4:25
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Dood...seriously...why? Why did you feel the need to tard up a very decent legit discussion with that?
 
VanceMack said:
Dood...seriously...why? Why did you feel the need to tard up a very decent legit discussion with that?
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I know...you can't argue fact so you attempt to insult. 4:25...Biden factually gropes a little girl. 4:26 she uses her elbow to push the monster away from her. The only "Tard" here is your pathetic denial of what you see with your own two eyes.
Hey if you want to defend a groper of children that's your "tard" not mine.
 
AlphaOmega said:
I know...you can't argue fact so you attempt to insult. 4:25...Biden factually gropes a little girl. 4:26 she uses her elbow to push the monster away from her. The only "Tard" here is your pathetic denial of what you see with your own two eyes.
Hey if you want to defend a groper of children that's your "tard" not mine.
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Trump Derangement Syndrome has a yang...and you are demonstrating it.
 
AlphaOmega said:
I know...you can't argue fact so you attempt to insult. 4:25...Biden factually gropes a little girl. 4:26 she uses her elbow to push the monster away from her. The only "Tard" here is your pathetic denial of what you see with your own two eyes.
Hey if you want to defend a groper of children that's your "tard" not mine.
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Start a thread on it then. Don't **** this one up with stupid obsessions.
 
calamity said:
Start a thread on it then. Don't **** this one up with stupid obsessions.
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I responded to one post, you lefties went off like I just kicked the hive in responding to it. Stop responding to it and I wont need to comment back. Simple, no?
 
AlphaOmega said:
I responded to one post, you lefties went off like I just kicked the hive in responding to it. Stop responding to it and I wont need to comment back. Simple, no?
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You calling VanceMack a leftie?
Tell you something, bud-if you've tried to insert a Bidenbash where it doesn't belong and VM calls you out on tarding up the thread, you've done some Special Olympic-class tarding.
 
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