JohnWOlin;1058903963]I think we have a serious lack of understanding here. Allow me to elbaorate on my point. When a CEO of a company says they should push their ideas onto their publications that are supposed to be meant to inform people, instead of giving people the information and leaving it at that, that is propaganda. If Ted Turner did that with CNN and some other issue, I would have the same problem.
In fact, FOX News sponsored several Tea Party rallies and had their "journalist" show up as special guest rallying support for the Tea Party movement.
If you want to have a credible discussion then you have to get away from the liberal talking points from MediaMatters, Huffington Post, MoveOn, and other leftwing sites that take things out of context and distort reality. I know of no Tea Party function sponsored by Fox News but I do know that Fox News covered the Tea Parties as they should. Do you know the difference between the Opinion personnel and hard news personnel? From your post I don't think you have a clue.
I'm not even going to touch what an oxymoron this statement is. However, it has everything to do with political parties because several politians from the right show their support by attending Tea Party rallies and Tea Party members and organizations themselves will endorse a candidate. For example, Sharon Angle.
And that is a problem, why? In your state the Tea Party candidate Rand Paul won without Republican support. That has happened in other states as well. The fact that GOP Candidates showed up to support tea party candidates goes to show how polarizing the Obama agenda is and what a disaster it has created.
To answer your question, what are the motives of the Tea Party movement?
Well initially I believe it was something against mainstream Republicans and Democrats and their ideas. The initial roots I think come from Ron Paul and his campaign, as while I do not agree with everything Ron Paul has to say, I think he probably the most honest politican we have today. Later, I think they were organized by honest to god honest folks before the media and politicans got involved.
There are a lot of Democrats and Independents in the Tea Party. The initial roots come from the opposition to the massive growth in the sie of govt, overwhelming debt, intrusion into the lives of all Americans with programs like National Healthcare, and redistribution of wealth. Ron Paul is an honest politician and practices what he preaches when it comes to spending. He takes no pork for his District and I live in the Houston area and know his record. Conservative politicians are more closely aligned with the goals of the Tea Party than liberal Democrats. Not sure why you have a problem with that.
Although every single tea party organizer since the beginning identifies themselves as a Republican, it wasn't until they started allowing conservative think tanks and Republican poltiicans to meddle with their simple message to promote low taxes and no pork spending was perverted. Now they have a contract with America, that suspiciously reads like a Republican lobbyist wrote it, and they reject any idea that comes out of the the left, or Republicans who they think are trying to meet anyone in the middle ground, like say McCain. They also stretched their message to go out of simply talking about issues of taxes and spending and are critical of social and moral issues now, such as gay marriage and abortion. Which yeah those are totally legitimate issues that need discussion but that doesn't really go with the whole Tea Party theme.
Why would anyone who believes in personal responsibility, reduction in the size of the govt, individual wealth creation, tax cuts for all taxpayers align themselves with the Democrat Party. I was a Democrat for decades before I realized the party had left me. You seem to have a problem with the Tea Party agenda and love to label people Republicans and Democrats instead of Americans who care about what is happening in this country.
I had no use for John McCain but he sure beat the alternative. I guarantee you he wouldn't have added 3 trillion to the debt in two years and we wouldn't have 16 million unemployed. Have you paid any attention to Obama and his speeches. He has been on one constant campaign and demonizes conservatives at every turn. He never accepts responsibility and continues to blame Bush for everything even though the Democrats were in charge of the Congress from 2007 on. Obama has had total control including a filibuster proof Senate during part of his first term and has made things worse. The results are there for all to see. Some however remain blind.
I really don't believe you have a clue as to what the Tea Party stands for as there isn't just one Tea Party group, they are different in every part of the country but their common theme is united, smaller govt, stop the massive spending on programs that don't work, support the private sector, stop trying to redistribute wealth.
The majority of Tea party supporters are much older and a common theme from them is "take our America back" essentially saying they don't want us young people controlling anything. Another common belief and theme amongst them is that they are getting taxed more when 9 out of 10 Tea Partiers make less than 250k a year and the Bush tax-cut rollbacks will have no effect on them (as Obama and all of congress pledge to make most of the tax bracket cuts permanent) and in fact, many of them have been taxed less since Obama took office.
You are projecting when you say that Tea Party supporters are much older and have a common theme of taking our country back saying they don't want us young people controlling anything. What exactly is Obama allowing the young people to control? According to him you aren't smart enough to handle your own health care, you aren't smart enough to spending your own money, you aren't smart enough to make the right choices in life. The Tea Party wants the govt. out of the decision making process for ALL Americans. They are about personal responsibility, individual wealth creation, consequences for poor choices and failures. I have seen on evidence that they are against the younger people. It would help you however to pay a little more attention to the experience that older people have instead of stereotyping older people into the same category.
Why do you believe a word Obama says? He has yet to tell you the truth on any issue and BEA.gov, BLS.gov, and the U.S. Treasury Dept. websites are non partisan and have the actual facts. Obama and Democrats state that the Bush tax cuts cost the country trillions and created the debt. Why doesn't the checkbook of the United States, U.S. Treasury, show that. Why is it that the U.S. Treasury shows income tax revenue growing AFTER the Bush tax rate cuts? Explain that to me then explain how raising taxes on the top income earners in this country are going to make a dent in the 13.4 trillion dollar debt we now have when that amounts to about 40 billion dollars if it is collected at all. I don't know why people like you are concerned about what others make including the rich. No rich person got rich and made someone else poor as this isn't a zero sum economy.
I really get frustrated when young people claim that they aren't being listened to or taken seriously when they make statements like you have just made. All this outrage over what rich people make and pay in taxes. You do know it was their money before it went to the govt. thus tax cuts aren't an expense to the Federal Govt. Where is your outrage over the 3.8 trillion dollar budget today and the trillion dollar deficits each of Obama's first two years? Please name for me any other President in U.S. History that had a trillion dollar deficit in any year?
It does seem to me that if you want to be taken seriously then you will stop buying what you are told and research to verify the rhetoric. I gave you non partisan sites as a good place to start.