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TDS and hate crime hoaxes

MrWonka said:
A deranged person focuses on what is trivial and irrelevant and loses sight of what matters. You and the OP want us to focus on a random actor nobody has ever heard of in order to avoid talking about the fact that the single most corrupt individual in the history of U.S. Politics is currently trying to subvert our Democracy. I don't fit the definition. You do.
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The United States is a republic, not a democracy (little d).
 
tres borrachos said:
Trump Derangement Syndrome. I've heard people talk about it. I don't know what it is. And it doesn't matter. What was the "syndrome" everyone else who ever reported a fake crime suffered from? How about the woman in 2008 who carved a backwards B on her face and said some crazy Obama supporter did it when she was coming out of a McCain campaign office?

Reporting a fake crime is against the law. It makes you a criminal.
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It was called "heresy" in the Dark Ages and it's called "TDS" in the year 2019.

Seriously, every time you hear someone whine about "TDS," just replace it with "heresy." It all makes sense then.
 
MrWonka said:
A deranged person focuses on what is trivial and irrelevant and loses sight of what matters. You and the OP want us to focus on a random actor nobody has ever heard of in order to avoid talking about the fact that the single most corrupt individual in the history of U.S. Politics is currently trying to subvert our Democracy. I don't fit the definition. You do.
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LOL - Talk about "trivial and irrelevant" Funny for all your claims not a single corrupt act has been proven against Trump. Oh, and he's not "subverting Democracy" - he was honestly elected and has actually addressed the problems a vast majority of Americans are concerned about. Granted that doesn't include forcing religious bakers to bake gay wedding cakes, or allowing high school boys to shower in the girls locker room - or any of the other issues that the left seems to think are life or death decisions. Sadly, he focused on creating jobs and an economy that will allow those average Americans to thrive and prosper. Total corruption, right? Plotting to block a Presidential candidate or overthrow a sitting President is patriotic, though, right? :roll:
 
OlNate said:
Ok...I'll humor you. Please provide exact numbers to demonstrate your assertion, along with links to sources.

I'm sure you've got this in the bag, and I'm walking into an ass whooping, but what the hell...I'm curious. :)
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How about (GASP!!) reading the OP and the link provided?
 
MrWonka said:
If you want to throw a flag it should be on the entire thread. Your President just declared a National Emergency. Yet you're obsessing over a random actor nobody even knows. How bad could an Emergency possibly be if you're so desperate to change the subject to this an actor?
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OH, HORRORS! The President declared a "National Emergency" : There are currently 31 OTHER national emergencies in effect. Obama declared 13!! BFD.
 
Grokmaster said:
How about (GASP!!) reading the OP and the link provided?
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I wasn't talking to you. I'm never talking to you. Please stop talking to me. Or don't. :shrug: I honestly couldn't care less. Just trying to be decent and save you some unnecessary typing. Next time you won't even get that. Just find someone that is into all...….that. I'm not.
 
trixare4kids said:
You're wearing blinders.
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Grokmaster said:
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And you two are living in never never land.
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Daily Caller - Media Bias/Fact Check
In 2017, The Daily Caller published a story falsely claiming that a "peer-reviewed study" by "two scientists and a veteran statistician" found that recent years have not been the warmest ever.[17][18] The alleged "study" was a PDF file on a WordPress blog, and was neither peer-reviewed nor published in a scientific journal.[17] Also in 2017, The Daily Caller uncritically published a bogus Daily Mail story which claimed that the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) manipulated data to make climate change appear worse; at the same time, legitimate news outlets debunked the Daily Mail story.[19][20][21] Also in 2017, The Daily Caller published a story claiming that a study found no evidence of accelerating temperatures over a 23-year period, which climate scientists described as a misleading story.[16] In 2016, The Daily Caller published a story claiming that climate scientist Michael Mann (director of the Earth System Science Center at Pennsylvania State University) had asserted that data was unnecessary to measure climate change; Mann described the story as "egregiously false".[22] In 2015, The Daily Caller wrote that NOAA "fiddle[d]" with data when the agency published a report concluding that there was no global warming hiatus.[23][24]

Misleading video about NPR
Edit
In 2011, The Daily Caller was the first news outlet to disseminate a video by conservative provocateur James O'Keefe which purportedly showed an NPR fundraiser deriding Republicans. The video was later proven to have been misleadingly edited.[25]

False prostitution allegations
Edit
In March 2013 The Daily Caller posted interviews with two women claiming that New Jersey Democratic Senator Bob Menendez had paid them for sex while he was a guest of a campaign donor.[26] The allegation came five days before the 2012 New Jersey senate election. News organizations such as ABC News, which had also interviewed the women, The New York Times, and the New York Post declined to publish the allegations, viewing them as unsubstantiated and lacking credibility.[27][28][29] Subsequently, one of the women who accused Menendez stated that she had been paid to falsely implicate the senator and had never met him.[27][30] Menendez's office described the allegations as "manufactured" by a right-wing blog as a politically motivated smear.[31]

A few weeks later, police in the Dominican Republic announced that three women had claimed they were paid $300–425 each to lie about having had sex with Menendez.[32] Dominican law enforcement also alleged that the women had been paid to lie about Menendez by an individual claiming to work for The Daily Caller. The Daily Caller denied this allegation, stating: "At no point did any money change hands between The Daily Caller and any sources or individuals connected with this investigation".[33] Describing what it saw as the unraveling of The Daily Caller' "scoop", the Poynter Institute wrote: "The Daily Caller stands by its reports, though apparently doesn't feel the need to prove its allegations right".[34]
The Daily Caller - Wikipedia
The Great Right Hype
Tucker Carlson and his Daily Caller
Launched on January 11, 2010, The Daily Caller is a mash-up of Carlson’s nobler aspirations and the tabloid-style hit-bait common to websites from Politico to Gawker.
(Just one tidbit from the article) “ Early on, in March 2010, the Caller delivered a scoop that had promise and impact: sources said Michael Steele, then chair of the Republican National Committee, considered using party funds to buy a private plane. More sensationally, filings showed Steele authorized a $1,946.25 payment for an evening at a bondage-themed nightclub.

Yet the Caller’s first story on the filings incorrectly implied Steele himself had been behind the velvet rope, in the presence of topless performers simulating lesbian sex. “
The Great Right Hype - Columbia Journalism Review

Many, many more reliable and factual references.
 
OlNate said:
I wasn't talking to you. I'm never talking to you. Please stop talking to me. Or don't. :shrug: I honestly couldn't care less. Just trying to be decent and save you some unnecessary typing. Next time you won't even get that. Just find someone that is into all...….that. I'm not.
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And? So?
 
RaleBulgarian said:
And you two are living in never never land.
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Daily Caller - Media Bias/Fact Check
In 2017, The Daily Caller published a story falsely claiming that a "peer-reviewed study" by "two scientists and a veteran statistician" found that recent years have not been the warmest ever.[17][18] The alleged "study" was a PDF file on a WordPress blog, and was neither peer-reviewed nor published in a scientific journal.[17] Also in 2017, The Daily Caller uncritically published a bogus Daily Mail story which claimed that the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) manipulated data to make climate change appear worse; at the same time, legitimate news outlets debunked the Daily Mail story.[19][20][21] Also in 2017, The Daily Caller published a story claiming that a study found no evidence of accelerating temperatures over a 23-year period, which climate scientists described as a misleading story.[16] In 2016, The Daily Caller published a story claiming that climate scientist Michael Mann (director of the Earth System Science Center at Pennsylvania State University) had asserted that data was unnecessary to measure climate change; Mann described the story as "egregiously false".[22] In 2015, The Daily Caller wrote that NOAA "fiddle[d]" with data when the agency published a report concluding that there was no global warming hiatus.[23][24]

Misleading video about NPR
Edit
In 2011, The Daily Caller was the first news outlet to disseminate a video by conservative provocateur James O'Keefe which purportedly showed an NPR fundraiser deriding Republicans. The video was later proven to have been misleadingly edited.[25]

False prostitution allegations
Edit
In March 2013 The Daily Caller posted interviews with two women claiming that New Jersey Democratic Senator Bob Menendez had paid them for sex while he was a guest of a campaign donor.[26] The allegation came five days before the 2012 New Jersey senate election. News organizations such as ABC News, which had also interviewed the women, The New York Times, and the New York Post declined to publish the allegations, viewing them as unsubstantiated and lacking credibility.[27][28][29] Subsequently, one of the women who accused Menendez stated that she had been paid to falsely implicate the senator and had never met him.[27][30] Menendez's office described the allegations as "manufactured" by a right-wing blog as a politically motivated smear.[31]

A few weeks later, police in the Dominican Republic announced that three women had claimed they were paid $300–425 each to lie about having had sex with Menendez.[32] Dominican law enforcement also alleged that the women had been paid to lie about Menendez by an individual claiming to work for The Daily Caller. The Daily Caller denied this allegation, stating: "At no point did any money change hands between The Daily Caller and any sources or individuals connected with this investigation".[33] Describing what it saw as the unraveling of The Daily Caller' "scoop", the Poynter Institute wrote: "The Daily Caller stands by its reports, though apparently doesn't feel the need to prove its allegations right".[34]
The Daily Caller - Wikipedia
The Great Right Hype
Tucker Carlson and his Daily Caller
Launched on January 11, 2010, The Daily Caller is a mash-up of Carlson’s nobler aspirations and the tabloid-style hit-bait common to websites from Politico to Gawker.
(Just one tidbit from the article) “ Early on, in March 2010, the Caller delivered a scoop that had promise and impact: sources said Michael Steele, then chair of the Republican National Committee, considered using party funds to buy a private plane. More sensationally, filings showed Steele authorized a $1,946.25 payment for an evening at a bondage-themed nightclub.

Yet the Caller’s first story on the filings incorrectly implied Steele himself had been behind the velvet rope, in the presence of topless performers simulating lesbian sex. “
The Great Right Hype - Columbia Journalism Review

Many, many more reliable and factual references.
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Which of those were ATTACKS FAKED by conservatives, saying they were THREATENED/ASSUALTED by Leftists?


The OP link shows ALL THE HOAX ATTACKS of people "Pulling a Smollett" just in the TRUMP YEARS...desperate deflection attempt DULY NOTED....
 
RaleBulgarian said:
And you two are living in never never land.
View attachment 67250926
Daily Caller - Media Bias/Fact Check
In 2017, The Daily Caller published a story falsely claiming that a "peer-reviewed study" by "two scientists and a veteran statistician" found that recent years have not been the warmest ever.[17][18] The alleged "study" was a PDF file on a WordPress blog, and was neither peer-reviewed nor published in a scientific journal.[17] Also in 2017, The Daily Caller uncritically published a bogus Daily Mail story which claimed that the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) manipulated data to make climate change appear worse; at the same time, legitimate news outlets debunked the Daily Mail story.[19][20][21] Also in 2017, The Daily Caller published a story claiming that a study found no evidence of accelerating temperatures over a 23-year period, which climate scientists described as a misleading story.[16] In 2016, The Daily Caller published a story claiming that climate scientist Michael Mann (director of the Earth System Science Center at Pennsylvania State University) had asserted that data was unnecessary to measure climate change; Mann described the story as "egregiously false".[22] In 2015, The Daily Caller wrote that NOAA "fiddle[d]" with data when the agency published a report concluding that there was no global warming hiatus.[23][24]

Misleading video about NPR
Edit
In 2011, The Daily Caller was the first news outlet to disseminate a video by conservative provocateur James O'Keefe which purportedly showed an NPR fundraiser deriding Republicans. The video was later proven to have been misleadingly edited.[25]

False prostitution allegations
Edit
In March 2013 The Daily Caller posted interviews with two women claiming that New Jersey Democratic Senator Bob Menendez had paid them for sex while he was a guest of a campaign donor.[26] The allegation came five days before the 2012 New Jersey senate election. News organizations such as ABC News, which had also interviewed the women, The New York Times, and the New York Post declined to publish the allegations, viewing them as unsubstantiated and lacking credibility.[27][28][29] Subsequently, one of the women who accused Menendez stated that she had been paid to falsely implicate the senator and had never met him.[27][30] Menendez's office described the allegations as "manufactured" by a right-wing blog as a politically motivated smear.[31]

A few weeks later, police in the Dominican Republic announced that three women had claimed they were paid $300–425 each to lie about having had sex with Menendez.[32] Dominican law enforcement also alleged that the women had been paid to lie about Menendez by an individual claiming to work for The Daily Caller. The Daily Caller denied this allegation, stating: "At no point did any money change hands between The Daily Caller and any sources or individuals connected with this investigation".[33] Describing what it saw as the unraveling of The Daily Caller' "scoop", the Poynter Institute wrote: "The Daily Caller stands by its reports, though apparently doesn't feel the need to prove its allegations right".[34]
The Daily Caller - Wikipedia
The Great Right Hype
Tucker Carlson and his Daily Caller
Launched on January 11, 2010, The Daily Caller is a mash-up of Carlson’s nobler aspirations and the tabloid-style hit-bait common to websites from Politico to Gawker.
(Just one tidbit from the article) “ Early on, in March 2010, the Caller delivered a scoop that had promise and impact: sources said Michael Steele, then chair of the Republican National Committee, considered using party funds to buy a private plane. More sensationally, filings showed Steele authorized a $1,946.25 payment for an evening at a bondage-themed nightclub.

Yet the Caller’s first story on the filings incorrectly implied Steele himself had been behind the velvet rope, in the presence of topless performers simulating lesbian sex. “
The Great Right Hype - Columbia Journalism Review

Many, many more reliable and factual references.
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The information cited by the O/P is not fake. Within the article there are hyperlinks to the WA. Post, On the Inside, DailyMail UK, Milwaukee Sentinel, Huff Post, Odessa American, The Kansas City Star, Times of Israel, and many more news sources, but since you never bothered to click on the O/P's link, you wouldn't know that.
But you go ahead and keep shooting the messenger if it makes you feel like you're winning...
 
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Fletch said:
Of course he has problems. That is why I made a point to identify his problem: TDS. Hatred destroys the hater. Smollett is just the latest example of the accuracy of that axiom.
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Grokmaster said:
And? So?
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Now for some stats straight from the FBI:

FBI data shows sharp rise in US hate crimes | US news | The Guardian

The FBI says hate crimes reports were up about 17% in 2017, marking a rise for the third year in a row, even though violent crime in America fell slightly overall. Crimes of antisemitism led the spike.

An annual report from the US federal government released on Tuesday shows there were more than 7,100 reported hate crimes last year. There were increases in attacks motivated by racial bias, religious bias and because of a victim’s sexual orientation.

The report shows there was a nearly 23% increase in religion-based hate crimes. There was a 37% spike in anti-Jewish hate crimes.

The acting attorney general, Matthew Whitaker, said the report is a “call to action”. He said the offenses were “despicable violations of our core values as Americans”.
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1. Hate Crimes rising every year, sharply since 2016.
2. Still thousands a year.
3. While Hoaxes surely occurred, as Daily Caller accurately copied and pasted from real reporting sites, most instances are not falsified and are still numerous and rising.
 
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trixare4kids said:
The information cited by the O/P is not fake. Within the article there are hypelinks to the WA. Post, On the Inside, DailyMail UK, Milwaukee Sentinel, Times of Israel, but since you never bothered to click on the O/P's link, you wouldn't know that.
But you go ahead and keep shooting the messenger if it makes you feel like you're winning...
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Standard Modus Operandi for some of the DP Left...
 
Idiot right winger and the pretending that a few rare examples of a hoax means none of the actual hate crimes and racist actions occur.

OlNate said:
You know, it's funny...I read this, had the usual reaction flare up a little, and then suddenly realized...I don't care. Not about the issue, I care about that, rather I couldn't possibly care less about what you have to say about it. Because once again, you have the joined the voices, from both sides, too lazy or intellectually incapable, of approaching the subject with nothing better than meme level generalization. And if that's all the effort you're going to put into sharing your views, why the hell should anyone give a rat's ass about anything you have to say?
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Bravo.
 
Grokmaster said:
And the OP shows all the HOAX "HATE CRIMES" they were really Wanne-Be-Victims Pulling a "Smollett"....
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Yes. There was hoax hate crimes. I never denied this.

I'm just stating more facts to compliment the OP. Real hate Crime is drastically on the rise, and quite numerous.
 
Fledermaus said:
So you ARE familiar with the term but feign ignorance as to the meaning or context.

All so you could make reference to another member of DP.

And this thread is about the TDS driven false claims. If you wish to discuss Obama era false claims I am sure a new thread would serve you better.
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I understand the confusion. Trump Derangement Syndrome.. would actually seem to belong to the trump supporters.. that flip flop their positions to keep in lockstep with trumps changing position.

For example... why do you need taxpayer money for the wall? Trump said mexico would pay for it.

Remember those cries the right had about executive orders under Obama.... and here is Trump doing an end run around the constitution.. by making up a national emergency.. that doesn;t exist.
 
OlNate said:
Ok...I'll humor you. Please provide exact numbers to demonstrate your assertion, along with links to sources.

I'm sure you've got this in the bag, and I'm walking into an ass whooping, but what the hell...I'm curious. :)
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I think there was a test done some years back on how many licks it took to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop. That number was 3. Using a similar scientific analysis, I came to the conclusion that the number of liberals who have lost their collective minds over the election of Trump is 3 as well.
 
jaeger19 said:
I understand the confusion. Trump Derangement Syndrome.. would actually seem to belong to the trump supporters.. that flip flop their positions to keep in lockstep with trumps changing position.

For example... why do you need taxpayer money for the wall? Trump said mexico would pay for it.

Remember those cries the right had about executive orders under Obama.... and here is Trump doing an end run around the constitution.. by making up a national emergency.. that doesn;t exist.
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According to the legislation passed by congress, who is it that makes the determination as to when something is to be declared an emergency?
 
OlNate said:
I wasn't talking to you. I'm never talking to you. Please stop talking to me. Or don't. :shrug: I honestly couldn't care less. Just trying to be decent and save you some unnecessary typing. Next time you won't even get that. Just find someone that is into all...….that. I'm not.
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As these are written "conversations", you can always chose not to respond ... but that would mean you're not the guy who is having the last word, which is really something your ego wouldn't let you be ... :lamo
 
Grokmaster said:
Which of those were ATTACKS FAKED by conservatives, saying they were THREATENED/ASSUALTED by Leftists?


The OP link shows ALL THE HOAX ATTACKS of people "Pulling a Smollett" just in the TRUMP YEARS...desperate deflection attempt DULY NOTED....
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And what does any of it actually have to do with Trump? Because Smollett (almost certainly) lied about MAGA hats and the supposed perps saying “make America great again”? Even it was true, that doesn’t make it Trump’s fault. ****, people used to (and still do) make up crap about stuff that supposedly happened only because Obama was president. Didn’t make it true with Obama and it doesn’t make it true with Trump. Only people who buy into that kind of causational relationship jibberish are morons who want to believe it.


trixare4kids said:
The information cited by the O/P is not fake. Within the article there are hyperlinks to the WA. Post, On the Inside, DailyMail UK, Milwaukee Sentinel, Huff Post, Odessa American, The Kansas City Star, Times of Israel, and many more news sources, but since you never bothered to click on the O/P's link, you wouldn't know that.
But you go ahead and keep shooting the messenger if it makes you feel like you're winning...
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And everything is couched in far right hyper partisan drivel. I prefer my information to be as free from bias as possible, not as biased as possible. But you go ahead and keep slurping down Carlson’s trash journalism.
 
Fletch said:
I think there was a test done some years back on how many licks it took to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop. That number was 3. Using a similar scientific analysis, I came to the conclusion that the number of liberals who have lost their collective minds over the election of Trump is 3 as well.
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:lamo

You win. But only because I can live with that number.
 
Barnacle said:
As these are written "conversations", you can always chose not to respond ... but that would mean you're not the guy who is having the last word, which is really something your ego wouldn't let you be ... :lamo
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Just trying to be a blessing, Barnacle...I know Grok probably has very important things to do with this day, might as well save him the time of typing to someone who doesn't ever read his stuff.

Speaking of which...you can type to me any time you like. I put the best ones up on the office fridge, beside the other jokes. :)
 
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