Tattoos - What's your "god" think about them?

[Rich2018]

I've heard that, too...but we know he was 33 1/2 years old when he died in the spring of the year...go back 33 1/2 years, you'll come up with sometime in the fall...

How do we know that ?

We don't know what year he was born.

 

[Daisy]

How do we know that ?

We don't know what year he was born.

The Bible doesn't tell us, that's why...it only tells us when he died because his death is what his followers are told to observe...

 

[Daisy]

Do you know that? I mean, when they said he started preaching, Luke said 'he was about 30' That makes saying he was 33 and a half years old a bit more precise than words in the gospels of Luke would entail. "About 30" could be 29. It could be 31. It could be just 30, or it could be almost 31.

Time of Birth, Length of Ministry. Jesus evidently was born in the month of Ethanim (September-October) of the year 2 B.C.E., was baptized about the same time of the year in 29 C.E., and died about 3:00 p.m. on Friday, the 14th day of the spring month of Nisan (March-April), 33 C.E. The basis for these dates is as follows:

Jesus was born approximately six months after the birth of his relative John (the Baptizer), during the rule of Roman Emperor Caesar Augustus (31 B.C.E.–14 C.E.) and the Syrian governorship of Quirinius (see REGISTRATION for the probable dates of Quirinius’ administration), and toward the close of the reign of Herod the Great over Judea.​—Mt 2:1, 13, 20-22; Lu 1:24-31, 36; 2:1, 2, 7.

Jesus Christ — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY

 

[Fletch]

Where does your "god" stand regarding tattoos?

What happens to those people who have them?

Punishment of some sort? Hell? No key to secret VIP room?

If your god has an issue with tattoos, why do you think he/she would care?

Most especially why would your "god" care if it's your soul that moves on to the "after-life" and not your physical body?

As a side question, if your "god" has a serious issue with tattoos, what about piercings, brands, and other body modifications?
What about breast enlargements/augmentations that are strictly for personal aesthetics? Tummy tucks? Nose jobs? Face lifts?

Why the A-holery? There is no reason for an atheist to even pose such moronic questions.

 

[RAMOSS]

Jesus Christ — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY

Well, that is a fine declaration. However, it directly is denied by both birth stories in the gospels. In the Gospel of Matthew, Jesus was born just before the declared 'Massacre of the Innocence' by Herod the king. It just so happens Herod the King died in the year 4 bce. That was a full 2 years before the JW web site said he was born.

Then of course, then there is Luke, who said that Jesus was born during the census when Quirinius first became governor or Syria. Despite the attempt to say that Quirinius was governor twice (no evidence more than pure speculation has ever been given, and besides, Augustus would not have the authority to order a census until Judah became directly part of the Empire anyway), and that happened in 6 C.E.. a full 10 years after Herod the King died. Saying that Jesus was born in 2 bce is too late for the story in Matthew, and 8 years before the story about the time frame in Luke. This demonstrates the lack of analysis the people who run the Watchtower actually give the Gospels. Both the death of Herod the King, and the census of Quirinius are historical events that can be verified outside the Gospels.

Funny thing, Matthew has Jesus being born when Herod the Great was alive, and Luke has him being born 10 years after Herod was dead.

 

[Daisy]

Well, that is a fine declaration. However, it directly is denied by both birth stories in the gospels. In the Gospel of Matthew, Jesus was born just before the declared 'Massacre of the Innocence' by Herod the king. It just so happens Herod the King died in the year 4 bce. That was a full 2 years before the JW web site said he was born.

Then of course, then there is Luke, who said that Jesus was born during the census when Quirinius first became governor or Syria. Despite the attempt to say that Quirinius was governor twice (no evidence more than pure speculation has ever been given, and besides, Augustus would not have the authority to order a census until Judah became directly part of the Empire anyway), and that happened in 6 C.E.. a full 10 years after Herod the King died. Saying that Jesus was born in 2 bce is too late for the story in Matthew, and 8 years before the story about the time frame in Luke. This demonstrates the lack of analysis the people who run the Watchtower actually give the Gospels. Both the death of Herod the King, and the census of Quirinius are historical events that can be verified outside the Gospels.

Funny thing, Matthew has Jesus being born when Herod the Great was alive, and Luke has him being born 10 years after Herod was dead.

Funny thing, not everyone knows how to count...:2razz:

When counting a number of years from a calendar date in the “B.C.E.” period to one in the “C.E.” period, it should be kept in mind that from a date such as October 1 of the year 1 B.C.E. to October 1 of the year 1 C.E. is only one year, not two, as can be seen in this diagram:

B.C.E.

C.E.

2

1

1

2

Oct. 1

Oct. 1

This is because the year dates are ordinal numbers. Thus, from about October 1 of the year 2 B.C.E. (the approximate time of Jesus’ birth) to October 1 of 29 C.E. (the approximate date of Jesus’ baptism) is a total of 30 years, that is, one full year plus 3 months in the B.C.E. period and 28 full years plus 9 months in the C.E. period.​—Lu 3:21-23.

Chronology — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY

 

[RAMOSS]

Funny thing, not everyone knows how to count...:2razz:



Chronology — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY

Yes, we do not have a zero origin. 4 bce is still 2 years before 2 ce... and Matthew has Jesus being born before the death of Herod. Luke had Jesus being born , pardon me, not 10 years, but 9 years after Herods death. Neither of those time lines are possible with a birth data of 2 ce.. so that violates both Mattew and Luke, which are in turn , mutually exclusive with each other.

 

[Logician Man]

You think blood transfusions are forbidden, so....

You posted the word 'trinity' is in the Book of Matthew. ( It isn't, FYI )

 

[Bum]

Tattoos - What's your "god" think about them?

I haven't had a supreme being knock and my door and say "Dude...we need to talk".

 

[Daisy]

Yes, we do not have a zero origin. 4 bce is still 2 years before 2 ce... and Matthew has Jesus being born before the death of Herod. Luke had Jesus being born , pardon me, not 10 years, but 9 years after Herods death. Neither of those time lines are possible with a birth data of 2 ce.. so that violates both Mattew and Luke, which are in turn , mutually exclusive with each other.

Wrong again...

In the modern calendar, we label all years with B.C. (before Christ) or A.D. (anno domini, or "in the year of our lord"). There is no "zero" year -- in this system, the year Christ was born is 1 A.D., and the year preceding it is 1 B.C.

This practice was first suggested in the sixth century A.D., and was adopted by the pope of that time. It took quite a while for it to become a worldwide standard, however. Russia and Turkey, for example, did not convert to the modern calendar and year scheme until the 20th century.

B.C. and A.D. - How Time Works | HowStuffWorks

 

[RAMOSS]

Wrong again...



B.C. and A.D. - How Time Works | HowStuffWorks

You just prove me right in my analysis. You really aren't reading your own sources.

 

[Daisy]

You just prove me right in my analysis. You really aren't reading your own sources.

No, it does not...you should read with understanding...

 

[AGENT J]

No, it does not...you should read with understanding...

WOW!!! Just stop LMAO when your false claims get owned as bad as yours did its better to move on and not post again or simply post with honesty and integrity and admit your mistake . .

doubling and tripling down just makes it worse, hilarious for the rest of us but worse on your end

 

[Dragonfly]

Why the A-holery? There is no reason for an atheist to even pose such moronic questions.

Struck a nerve did I? :lamo

What part got your panties all in a twist?

 

[Dragonfly]

we know he was 33 1/2 years old when he died

So please, without quoting, linking to, or using anything from "The Watchtower", can you please provide the facts that show JC was 33 1/2 years old at the time of death?

Specifically, can you show where the "1/2" part comes from?

 

[it's just me]

You posted the word 'trinity' is in the Book of Matthew. ( It isn't, FYI )

I can tell you from firsthand experience that when you get a blood transfusion you don't "eat" the blood (saved my life, both times) which is more important than whether or not you can comprehend the idea that "tri", or "triple" or "triune" means you're talking about three things.

 

[Daisy]

So please, without quoting, linking to, or using anything from "The Watchtower", can you please provide the facts that show JC was 33 1/2 years old at the time of death?

Specifically, can you show where the "1/2" part comes from?

John the Baptist was six months older than Jesus so if we know when John was born we know about when Jesus was born...Luke 1:26-38...the Bible tells us when John was born...John’s father, Zechariah, served as priest just before John was conceived, Zechariah belonged to “the division of Abijah”...Luke 1:5, 8-25...1 Chronicles 24:7-18 tells about the twenty-four divisions of the priests...the division for Abijah was the 8th...of the 24 divisions, the 2nd round of the 8th division would fall in the 4th Jewish month, or the latter part of June, our calendar, therefore John the Baptist was conceived in the latter part of June, 3 BC, so he was born in the latter part of March, 2 BC...since John was 6 months older than Jesus, Jesus was born about October 1, 2 BC...33 1/2 years later, on Nisan 14, 33 CE, Jesus was killed...

 

[Daisy]

You posted the word 'trinity' is in the Book of Matthew. ( It isn't, FYI )

There are so many scriptures the apostles wrote regarding Jesus' ascension back to heaven that support the fact there is no trinity and even before...Jehovah God and Jesus Christ are 2 separate beings...here are but a few...

Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth." Matthew 28:18

"But he, being full of holy spirit, gazed into heaven and caught sight of God’s glory and of Jesus standing at God’s right hand" Acts 7:55

"For he must rule as king until God has put all enemies under his feet." 1 Corinthians 15:25

"which he exercised toward Christ when he raised him up from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places, far above every government and authority and power and lordship and every name that is named, not only in this system of things but also in that to come." Ephesians 1:20,21

"For this very reason, God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name, so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend—of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground" Philippians 2:9,10

But when he again brings his Firstborn into the inhabited earth, he says: “And let all of God’s angels do obeisance to him.” Hebrews 1:6

"Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth.
"But this man offered one sacrifice for sins for all time and sat down at the right hand of God," Hebrews 10:12

"He is at God’s right hand, for he went to heaven, and angels and authorities and powers were made subject to him." 1 Peter 3:22

 

[Rich2018]

There are so many scriptures the apostles wrote regarding Jesus' ascension back to heaven that support the fact there is no trinity and even before...Jehovah God and Jesus Christ are 2 separate beings...here are but a few...

Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth." Matthew 28:18

"But he, being full of holy spirit, gazed into heaven and caught sight of God’s glory and of Jesus standing at God’s right hand" Acts 7:55

"For he must rule as king until God has put all enemies under his feet." 1 Corinthians 15:25

"which he exercised toward Christ when he raised him up from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places, far above every government and authority and power and lordship and every name that is named, not only in this system of things but also in that to come." Ephesians 1:20,21

"For this very reason, God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name, so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend—of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground" Philippians 2:9,10

But when he again brings his Firstborn into the inhabited earth, he says: “And let all of God’s angels do obeisance to him.” Hebrews 1:6

"Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth.
"But this man offered one sacrifice for sins for all time and sat down at the right hand of God," Hebrews 10:12

"He is at God’s right hand, for he went to heaven, and angels and authorities and powers were made subject to him." 1 Peter 3:22

Doesn't your version of the Bible refer the Jesus as "He" with a capital "H" - which is only reserved for god ?

 

[Logician Man]

I can tell you from firsthand experience that when you get a blood transfusion you don't "eat" the blood (saved my life, both times) which is more important than whether or not you can comprehend the idea that "tri", or "triple" or "triune" means you're talking about three things.

Doesn't change the fact you were INCORRECT when you posted that the word 'trinity' is in the Book of Matthew. ( It isn't )

 

[Rich2018]

Doesn't change the fact you were INCORRECT when you posted that the word 'trinity' is in the Book of Matthew. ( It isn't )

Matthew 28:19
"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit..."

 

[Logician Man]

Matthew 28:19
"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit..."

Do you see the word 'trinity' in that verse ? NO, you don't.

 

[Fledermaus]

Where does your "god" stand regarding tattoos?

What happens to those people who have them?

Punishment of some sort? Hell? No key to secret VIP room?

If your god has an issue with tattoos, why do you think he/she would care?

Most especially why would your "god" care if it's your soul that moves on to the "after-life" and not your physical body?

As a side question, if your "god" has a serious issue with tattoos, what about piercings, brands, and other body modifications?
What about breast enlargements/augmentations that are strictly for personal aesthetics? Tummy tucks? Nose jobs? Face lifts?

I asked on your behalf (I don't have tattoos).... God hasn't gotten back to me yet.

 

[it's just me]

Do you see the word 'trinity' in that verse ? NO, you don't.

Do you see that the author is talking about three persons? Do we have to sing it to you?

 

[Logician Man]

Do you see that the author is talking about three persons? Do we have to sing it to you?

NOPE... Just get your facts straight. The word 'trinity' is NOT in the Book of Matthew, or anywhere else in the bible, as you previously posted. ( fact )