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Taliban battle into west Afghan city in new crisis for government

apdst said:
Part of that mission was regime change. The old regime (the Taliban) hasn't been rendered ineffective. It should be destroyed.
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Which was a pipe dream. Not going to happen.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Do you mean it's ridiculously uncomfortable for you because it's just a bit too close to the truth for you?
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No. I meant what you posted was idiotic.
 
apdst said:
Because of a lack of political will.
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There comes a point when intelligent people know when it is time to call it a bewrap. To go beyond that means one wears the blood of our troops. Nothing else for us to gain and we have trained and equipped them. Freedom has to be earned by those that want it, others cannot give it.
 
Taliban are tied to extremist interpretations of SUNNI dogma, so it is difficult for me to imagine Iran, a majority Shi'ia state, empowering rebels who would just as soon see Iran's Shi'ia go up in flames.
 
OrphanSlug said:
More a consequence of starting a mess in Afghanistan in the first place and not finishing the job. No one handled this well, including Bush 43 himself who decided Iraq was just as important never understanding Afghanistan or Iraq.

All Trump has accomplished is stirring up a hornet's nest, that was never really settled in the first place.
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Why no mention of the US's illegal invasion of Afghanistan, the ultimate war crime?
 
apdst said:
That's why we should find and destroy every Taliban stronghold we can until the Taliban ceases to exist.
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Why would you want to do that to the group/people the US was so tight with throughout the 1990s? When is the next tour of Mt Rushmore planned for the Taliban?
 
apdst said:
That's why we should find and destroy every Taliban stronghold we can until the Taliban ceases to exist.
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You're not a military or geopolitical strategist, you know nothing, nothing about any of this.

You're a simple minded, Westmoreland type that believes if you just kill enough people you'll win.

You've been at this for almost 17 years and you're no closer to "winning" than you were when the thing began because it can't be won, but your pride, your bluster and your reckless patriotism blind you from that fact.

Your only answer to every strategic problem is "WWII".
 
camlok said:
Why would you want to do that to the group/people the US was so tight with throughout the 1990s? When is the next tour of Mt Rushmore planned for the Taliban?
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The United States was never tight with The Taliban.
 
Jetboogieman said:
You're not a military or geopolitical strategist, you know nothing, nothing about any of this.

You're a simple minded, Westmoreland type that believes if you just kill enough people you'll win.

You've been at this for almost 17 years and you're no closer to "winning" than you were when the thing began because it can't be won, but your pride, your bluster and your reckless patriotism blind you from that fact.

Your only answer to every strategic problem is "WWII".
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Who won WW2?
 
apdst said:
Who won WW2?
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As usual, you got nothing because you don't know anything.

Not every conflict can be compared to WW2 for extremely obvious reasons but none you'll listen to because you're all bluster, no substance, no knowledge, no nothing.
 
Jetboogieman said:
As usual, you got nothing because you don't know anything.

Not every conflict can be compared to WW2 for extremely obvious reasons but none you'll listen to because you're all bluster, no substance, no knowledge, no nothing.
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Did our strategy work during WW2?
 
Jetboogieman said:
You're simply proving my point.

You got nothing, you never have and you never will.
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"War is horror. The more horrible it is, the sooner it will be over" - William T. Sherman
 
apdst said:
The United States was never tight with The Taliban.
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Tight enough to invite them to Texas.Tight enough to take them on tours of Mt Rushmore.

December 1997: Unocal Establishes Pipeline Training Facility Near Bin Laden’s Compound

Thomas Gouttierre. [Source: University of Nebraska]
Unocal pays University of Nebraska $900,000 to set up a training facility near Osama bin Laden’s Kandahar compound, to train 400 Afghan teachers, electricians, carpenters and pipe fitters in anticipation of using them for their pipeline in Afghanistan. One hundred and fifty students are already attending classes in southern Afghanistan. Unocal is playing University of Nebraska professor Thomas Gouttierre to develop the training program. Gouttierre travels to Afghanistan and meets with Taliban leaders, and also arranges for some Taliban leaders to visit the US around this time (see December 4, 1997). [DAILY TELEGRAPH, 12/14/1997; COLL, 2004, PP. 364] It will later be revealed that the CIA paid Gouttierre to head a program at the University of Nebraska that created textbooks for Afghanistan promoting violence and jihad (see 1984-1994). Gouttierre will continue to work with the Taliban after Unocal officially cuts off ties with them. For instance, he will host some Taliban leaders visiting the US in 1999 (see July-August 1999).
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apdst said:
Link?
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What good are links to brainwashed minds? You have ignored the previous link.

"Gouttierre will continue to work with the Taliban after Unocal officially cuts off ties with them. For instance, he will host some Taliban leaders visiting the US in 1999".
 
camlok said:
Why no mention of the US's illegal invasion of Afghanistan, the ultimate war crime?
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I did mention Afghanistan, just not the way you did.
 
camlok said:
Tight enough to invite them to Texas.Tight enough to take them on tours of Mt Rushmore.
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Tight enough for Colin Powell to hand carry a check for $43 million to them, for their assistance in the US war on drugs, April 2001.
 
OrphanSlug said:
I did mention Afghanistan, just not the way you did.
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Are you suggesting that the ultimate war crime, repeated myriad times by the USA, doesn't merit discussion?
 
camlok said:
Are you suggesting that the ultimate war crime, repeated myriad times by the USA, doesn't merit discussion?
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Probably not in this thread.
 
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