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Taking the Bible Literally -- Or Not [W:775]

Re: Taking the Bible Literally -- Or Not

Somerville said:
Yeah, but you must know that Bart Ehrman, being an atheist, is automatically discredited for anything he writes by those real Christians - the ones who refuse to acknowledge actual historical knowledge.
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Ah, yes, the "anything that goes against my beliefs is fake news" argument.
 
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Logicman said:
You mean the writings of the Jewish rabbis that often contradict each other, depending on whether they're liberals or conservatives? Yeah, I've see it. I seriously doubt you have, though.
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Oh, but Christian liberals and conservatives always agree, and never contradict each other, right? :lamo
 
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Logicman said:
You mean the writings of the Jewish rabbis that often contradict each other, depending on whether they're liberals or conservatives? Yeah, I've see it. I seriously doubt you have, though.
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One thing that all the Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, Humanistic, and Reconstructionist Rabbi's agree on, Jesus is not the Jewish Messiah.
 
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RAMOSS said:
One thing that all the Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, Humanistic, and Reconstructionist Rabbi's agree on, Jesus is not the Jewish Messiah.
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One thing that all Christians agree on, all the Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, Humanistic, and Reconstructionist Rabbis are wrong...
 
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Elvira said:
One thing that all Christians agree on, all the Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, Humanistic, and Reconstructionist Rabbis are wrong...
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One thing all Muslims agree on: they are both wrong.

One thing all atheists agree on: the Muslims are wrong too.

So where does all that leave us?
 
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Elvira said:
One thing that all Christians agree on, all the Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, Humanistic, and Reconstructionist Rabbis are wrong...
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They can say that, but the Jewish people know their own scripture. Most christians don't know the Jewish scriptures.
 
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ataraxia said:
One thing all Muslims agree on: they are both wrong.

One thing all atheists agree on: the Muslims are wrong too.

So where does all that leave us?
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Don't know about anyone else but I'll take Jehovah at His word because He has proven to speak truth time and time again...

"So my word that goes out of my mouth will be.
It will not return to me without results,
But it will certainly accomplish whatever is my delight,
And it will have sure success in what I send it to do." Isa. 55:11

"Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “and to your descendants,” in the sense of many. Rather, it says, “and to your offspring,”* in the sense of one, who is Christ." Gal. 3:16
 
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Elvira said:
One thing that all Christians agree on, all the Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, Humanistic, and Reconstructionist Rabbis are wrong...
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Jehovah's Witesses believe that all non-JW christians are WRONG too.
Why do you constantly leave that bit out?

All other churches, regardless of christian or not, are being led by Satan.
 
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Those of us on the outside do wonder then, which group is correct?

Of course the answer will be -- it depends, it depends upon the religious belief one believes to be the only correct belief.
 
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Elvira said:
One thing that all Christians agree on, all the Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, Humanistic, and Reconstructionist Rabbis are wrong...
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That is not true. Many christians accept that other believers have different beliefs but it is just a different path. They don't think they are wrong, just different.
 
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ataraxia said:
One thing all Muslims agree on: they are both wrong.

One thing all atheists agree on: the Muslims are wrong too.

So where does all that leave us?
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That people are wrong about things. But, the one big difference is the the evangalistic Christians are telling Jews that they can't understand their own religion.
 
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Logicman said:
You mean the writings of the Jewish rabbis that often contradict each other, depending on whether they're liberals or conservatives? Yeah, I've see it. I seriously doubt you have, though.
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So I see you have not. You need to do your homework and study Judaism in depth.
 
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ataraxia said:
Most who do end up losing their faith. They come to see it as a book of cultural mythology like all the others.

This book is from a former fundamentalist Christian who dedicated his life to studying the Bible. He says there are very few like him who come out of their study still with any kind of fundamentalist beliefs.

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How Jesus Became God: The Exaltation of a Jewish Preacher from Galilee: Bart D. Ehrman: 9780061778186: Amazon.com: Books
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It's not about books for me,it is about my Epiphany of the Holy Spirit
 
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Mizzy22 said:
It's not about books for me,it is about my Epiphany of the Holy Spirit
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Sincere question: Are you using the phrase "Epiphany of the Holy Spirit" in the conventional way, or do you have a more personal definition?
 
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RAMOSS said:
That people are wrong about things. But, the one big difference is the the evangalistic Christians are telling Jews that they can't understand their own religion.
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I'm sure it looks that way to you!
But if you had a little knowledge of the Age of the Gentiles.
You would understand better
 
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Mizzy22 said:
I'm sure it looks that way to you!
But if you had a little knowledge of the Age of the Gentiles.
You would understand better
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Or, perhaps, the evangalistic Christian lies. It has always been about the nation of Israel.
 
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nota bene said:
Sincere question: Are you using the phrase "Epiphany of the Holy Spirit" in the conventional way, or do you have a more personal definition?
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I'm saying,I had zero beliefs,or Biblical training.
When the Holy Spirit descended on me at Midnight 11-1-75,and was taught by the Holy Spirit long before I read the Bible.
 
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RAMOSS said:
Or, perhaps, the evangalistic Christian lies. It has always been about the nation of Israel.
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I'm not a Evangelical Christian,I'm a Jewish High Priest,that recognizes Jesus as the Jewish Messiah.
 
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Mizzy22 said:
I'm not a Evangelical Christian,I'm a Jewish High Priest,that recognizes Jesus as the Jewish Messiah.
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By definition, you can not be Jewish. Also, traditionally, Women can't be high priests. You can only have high priests when there is a temple.. and there is no temple.

Since those inaccuracies are quite well known, the next question is 'why should I ever take anybody who gives such misinformation seriously?'
 
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RAMOSS said:
By definition, you can not be Jewish. Also, traditionally, Women can't be high priests. You can only have high priests when there is a temple.. and there is no temple.

Since those inaccuracies are quite well known, the next question is 'why should I ever take anybody who gives such misinformation seriously?'
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I didn't say I was Jewish,I'm not a woman.
Temple or no Temple,I Am,I AM's,High Priest "forever".
 
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Mizzy22 said:
I didn't say I was Jewish,I'm not a woman.
Temple or no Temple,I Am,I AM's,High Priest "forever".
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Well, that is more misinformation, and I can safely not take you seriously.
 
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RAMOSS said:
Well, that is more misinformation, and I can safely not take you seriously.
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If you had the knowledge ,you assume you have,you would know just what I'm saying.
I assume you think I am a woman because my avatar is a woman.
That's Anne Frank.
 
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ataraxia said:
Oh, but Christian liberals and conservatives always agree, and never contradict each other, right? :lamo
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Never said they did, sport.
 
Re: Taking the Bible Literally -- Or Not

RAMOSS said:
One thing that all the Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, Humanistic, and Reconstructionist Rabbi's agree on, Jesus is not the Jewish Messiah.
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That's bs. There's plenty of Messianic Jewish believers, as well as former atheists, humanists, etc., etc., that are now Christians.

You really need to spend some time on getting some solid arguments for a change.
 
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