Surviving Gay...Barely[W:76]****

[phattonez]

You know it been eighty years since the first details and scientific studies on human sexuality had been available but you would never know it from reading some of the postings on this thread.

And it's been how many years since Kinsey has been debunked as a total fraud?

 

[beefheart]

His male God has existed for eternity yet has no wife. That God's son never married. Hmmm.

And...he hung out with a lot of guys..and told them not to take wives....hmmmmm

 

[CLAX1911]

And it's been how many years since Kinsey has been debunked as a total fraud?

Kinsey what else has been debunked? Or is it all garbage because Kinsey

 

[matchlight]

And it's been how many years since Kinsey has been debunked as a total fraud?

I am shocked to see you question the views of such a renowned scientist. Why, Kinsey's theories rank right up there with, say, the theories of phlogiston and luminiferous ether. Next you'll be doubting the scientific basis for Freud's theories.

 

[BillRM]

Re: Surviving Gay...Barely

Damn. That must be that Catholic guilt that I've heard about before. No thanks, I'd rather just live my life as I see fit so long as I don't harm anyone.

As some posters here have a problem with gays as they do not do their fair share of the task of producing the next generation and as both catholic priests and nuns are in the same boat as gays if we are going to take actions against gays for that reason we should also take actions against the catholic church.

 

[nota bene]

I've run across men in heterosexual relationships that place a very high importance on sex and they are very easily manipulated.

If you ask me love must come before sex.

No disagreement from me. The "hooking up" culture rather reduces us to what I observe in the country from the animals.

And as you said earlier in reference to marrying, there is a practical reason for a committed relationship--the children who may be conceived.

 

[BillRM]

And it's been how many years since Kinsey has been debunked as a total fraud?

Only by people like you................Oh how do you feel about Darwin theories had they been rejected in the same manner as Master and Johnson work?

What part of modern sciences do you accept?

How about the age of the earth being slightly over a few thousands years?

 

[BillRM]

No disagreement from me. The "hooking up" culture rather reduces us to what I observe in the country from the animals.

And as you said earlier in reference to marrying, there is a practical reason for a committed relationship--the children who may be conceived.

Well in the 17 century Franklin wrote that one of the major reasons he had gotten married was the risk of STDs and he did bring home a male infant that he father by a unknown woman for his wife to raise but technology had come a long way since Franklin days both in regard to birth control and STDs.

 

[Henrin]

Only by people like you................Oh how do you feel about Darwin theories had they been rejected in the same manner as Master and Johnson work?

What part of modern sciences do you accept?

How about the age of the earth being slightly over a few thousands years?

By everyone actually. His work was shown to be trash decades ago.

 

[BillRM]

And it's been how many years since Kinsey has been debunked as a total fraud?

Footnote there was a paper/book put out by Masters late in his life without Johnson support that claimed gayness could be successfully treated and that small part of his work/studies had been consider not valid today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masters_and_Johnson

 

[BillRM]

By everyone actually. His work was shown to be trash decades ago.

Would you care to give links????????

I will give you this however this part of his work was consider not valid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masters_and_Johnson

From 1968 to 1977, the Masters and Johnson Institute ran a program to convert homosexuals to heterosexuality. This program reported a 71.6% success rate over a six-year treatment period.[10][11] At the time of their earlier work, homosexuality was classified as a psychological disorder by the American Psychiatric Association,[12] a classification which was repealed in 1973.
In April 2009, Thomas Maier reported, in his biography Masters of Sex (Basic Books) and in Scientific American, "that Virginia Johnson had serious reservations about Masters' conversion theory, and she suspected that, at worst, the results of the study may have been fabricated by William Masters".[5][13] Clinical associate to the Masters' and psychiatrist Robert C. Kolodny also expressed reservations about the veracity of the findings in Master's book on the topic and alleged that Masters had not kept files of the case studies cited in the book.[5] Shortly before the book was published, he wrote Masters a two-page letter expressing Johnson's and Kolodny's reservations on the alleged successful reconversion findings and urging him to reconsider publication of the book, to no avail.[5] As homosexuality was on the verge of being dropped from the DSM, Masters' insistence on publishing the book proved to be tone-deaf and was shunned by book critics.[5]

 

[CLAX1911]

Well in the 17 century Franklin wrote that one of the major reasons he had gotten married was the risk of STDs and he did bring home a male infant that he father by a unknown woman for his wife to raise but technology had come a long way since Franklin days both in regard to birth control and STDs.

Who is Franklin of the 17th century?

 

[Partsguy57]

Re: Surviving Gay...Barely

OP is horribly ignorant hate-pushing.

Really?? The op posts a article written by a gay man and that is hate? You are nothing but a gay hack and by screaming hate when someone posted about the gay lifestyle that shows that some or maybe most of the gay life is less then positive shows who the true intolerant hater is... You! You can't handle a open dialog about the cons ( as long as its pro in your mind its not hate) as this is self evident in your response. Gee after reading about the " wonderful" lifestyle he lived, who would dare oppose this sort of thing. Put your big boy pants on as there is many that would not consider what the op posted as hate, but would consider your response as childish.... the pic is what much of the militant gay crowd looks like to the average American. Cheers.

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[ecofarm]

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:lamo


Issues?

 

[Partsguy57]

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Weird how you trust a nutbag with an agenda and not every other homosexual. I wonder why's that. Oh, wait, it's because you look for stuff (no matter how dark and dank the corner of the internet) to support your hatred.

What you hate is a gay man wrote the article and others are reading it.....

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[Partsguy57]

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I can walk past a lingerie shop in any mall and see giant posters of women wearing less. What's the difference?

Crawling down the street with ones ass in the air?? You can't see the difference?

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[Partsguy57]

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:lamo


Issues?

The only issues I see going on is guy that wrote the article and the results of that lifestyle and the issues from people like you not happy about a gay man that has lived the life and writing about it. Cheers.

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[BillRM]

Who is Franklin of the 17th century?

A major founding father of the US with his picture on the 100 dollar bill. Live from 1706 to 1790.

Footnote late in his life he ask and got the congress both houses to meet as a Committee of the whole to consider the issue of freeing the slaves.

After meeting for a few days they reject freeing the slaves but only Franklin was likely to have the standing other then Washington to get the senate and the house to meet together over the issue.

 

[BillRM]

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The only issues I see going on is guy that wrote the article and the results of that lifestyle and the issues from people like you not happy about a gay man that has lived the life and writing about it. Cheers.

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Right you and people like you have done your very best for generations to made being gay a hell on this earth an you then claim that when some poor gay guy became a self hater that proof you was right after all and the hell with the millions of gays now living happy and full lives.

After your kind are not able to attack gays for being gay where will you turn you hate next?

 

[Partsguy57]

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Right you and people like you have done your very best for generations to made being gay a hell on this earth an you then claim that when some poor gay guy became a self hater that proof you was right after all and the hell with the millions of gays now living happy and full lives.

After your kind are not able to attack gays for being gay where will you turn you hate next?

Hmmm and where did I say I hate gays??? Now the gay guy that wrote the article according to you is a self hater... Funny anyone or any thing you don't like you automatically scream hate of some sort... Nice pattern you have. Question is this self hating gay ( you refer to him that way) guy accurate in his article??? The way he writes it appears there is a whole lot of gays living this way. Is this true or not?

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[William Rea]

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...After your kind are not able to attack gays for being gay where will you turn you hate next?

That one is easy to answer, the transgender community.

 

[William Rea]

Re: Surviving Gay...Barely

Hmmm and where did I say I hate gays??? Now the gay guy that wrote the article according to you is a self hater... Funny anyone or any thing you don't like you automatically scream hate of some sort... Nice pattern you have. Question is this self hating gay ( you refer to him that way) guy accurate in his article??? The way he writes it appears there is a whole lot of gays living this way. Is this true or not?

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How you self identify is irrelevant when what you post really demonstrates your opinions.

 

[ecofarm]

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Hmmm and where did I say I hate gays???

Here:

the results of that lifestyle

Total BS based on hate. When you post hateful crap, don't be surprised when others pick up on it.

 

[Henrin]

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Really?? The op posts a article written by a gay man and that is hate? You are nothing but a gay hack and by screaming hate when someone posted about the gay lifestyle that shows that some or maybe most of the gay life is less then positive shows who the true intolerant hater is... You! You can't handle a open dialog about the cons ( as long as its pro in your mind its not hate) as this is self evident in your response. Gee after reading about the " wonderful" lifestyle he lived, who would dare oppose this sort of thing. Put your big boy pants on as there is many that would not consider what the op posted as hate, but would consider your response as childish.... the pic is what much of the militant gay crowd looks like to the average American. Cheers.

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That picture is awesome. No one will admit it's true though.

 

[Partsguy57]

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How you self identify is irrelevant when what you post really demonstrates your opinions.

So you admit, if I don't agree with you I'm a hater? Lol. Do you know how incredibly foolish that makes you look? Look at the the gay writer of the article, he has been labeled a self hater by a gay advocate here. He not a self hater and everyone here knows it.. What he hates is the choice he made entering the gay lifestyle and you or gay advocates can't have that hence the self hater label put on him. The left claims tolerance and if he was considering entering the gay lifestyle you would cheering him on with full support here on this forum. Where is your tolerance and support of a gay man when he decides that this was not such a great thing to do??? Are you a hypocrite??? Do you not support him??? Next question, is his article accurate??? It appears from his article his lifestyle was not unique, but quite common. Is this accurate???

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