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Steven Mnuchin Refuses to Release Trump’s Tax Returns to Congress

Should this be fast tracked to the Supreme Court?

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MTAtech said:
The House having access to Trump's taxes doesn't mean they will become public.
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Number of people in the US: 327.2 Million
Number of people who think that if the House gets Trump's tax returns, they may not be made public: 1
 
tres borrachos said:
I think your fear is proving to be more and more real with each passing day. Sorry to be a Debbie Downer (which is better than a Debbie Does Dallaser).
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Careful you are betraying age there and what is wrong with Dallas?
 
Chomsky said:
You know what my biggest fear with Trump always was?

That with his wealth, he could be cutting "legal" bribery deals with members of his administration and government. For example, he can control someone with the promise of a plum contract or employment from the Trump Org, to be finalized when he or the bribed individual is out of office.

The above has always been my greatest fear ...
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While this is a concern of mine as well, I don't believe it's the reason Trump fears his tax returns released He had this same fear during the election, even when he thought he wouldn't win, so clearly the reasons are more personal in nature, rather than political, as we might assume.

I think the reasons for his refusal are two fold.

First, the only thing Trump cares about is his business and his image. His tax returns have the potential to reveal that he is not only not a billionaire, but is massively in debt to a point that would probably shock us, and that would hurt his business in a very significant way that he cares about.

Second, there is also the fact that he also has a history of working the system and using all kinds of chicanery to not pay taxes (some of which appear illegal), squeezing every nickel and dime he can in his fillings, because he hurts for money that bad.

Lastly, I'd wager that Trump deflated his assets when filling his returns, just as he did the opposite when applying for loans from Deutsche bank, and that could constitute tax fraud.
 
Mycroft said:
I am HIGHLY critical when I see people use their government powers for political purposes.
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Too bad you are not critical when such powers are used for personal enrichment and corruption, which makes you...
 
apdst said:
I don't know what would be found.

What kind of dishonesty do you expect to find?
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Possibly none, not probably but possibly, but more importantly it is possible that other "factors" which in and of themselves may not be illegal, would be "disqualifiers" for the presidency, namely being heavily indebted to Russian financiers, thus possible compromise. You would care if the President was compromised no?
 
Huey Freeman said:
But that's not the law. The law states that the chair may view any individual's tax return. I support this moving to the Supreme Court because they will have no choice but to affirm the plain meaning of the law. The law is crystal clear:

I encourage you to read it over and over again. The chair has the right to view any tax return in closed executive session. There is no wiggle room. Period. Full stop. Further, it's not your (or Mnuchin's for that matter) business to determine the motive of requesting such returns. It is not your business to determine what is legitimate, it is Congress' job. Keep in mind, that these laws were enacted after the Teapot Dome Scandal to prevent the Executive branch from engaging in bribery.
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If presented with the "plain meaning of the law," as you've presented it, they would simply rule the law unconstitutional because blanket authority to view anyone's tax returns for any reason defies the necessary and proper clause.

Of course, the law is more complicated than you seem to believe.
 
MTAtech said:
That's among the most tortured arguments I have read on DP. What is clear is that you are out to defend Trump having his taxes secret at all costs. Why such a devotion to what you wouldn't believe if it was a Democratic president under the same circumstances?
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I'm defending anyone against outrageous government overreach.
 
MTAtech said:
That's among the most tortured arguments I have read on DP.
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Surely you don't really believe that the House can make use of its impeachment powers without actually trying to impeach anyone?
 
apdst said:
I don't know what would be found.

What kind of dishonesty do you expect to find?
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Again you miss it. I wagered honesty would not be found.
Goes to the heart of Trumps ruse on rubes.
No doubt the Emolument lawsuits will see a lot of financial information.

I wager honesty would not be found. What about you?
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JANFU said:
Again you miss it. I wagered honesty would not be found.
Goes to the heart of Trumps ruse on rubes.
No doubt the Emolument lawsuits will see a lot of financial information.
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You're crawfishin...lol
 
apdst said:
NY can't get Federal tax returns.
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That's yet to be settled.

There are and will be lawsuits because the same law allows sharing of federal returns with the states.
 
Taylor said:
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Number of people in the US: 327.2 Million
Number of people who think that if the House gets Trump's tax returns, they may not be made public: 1
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Then they'd face prison because they would be violating the statute. The idea that Congress can't use their authority because someone might break the law is REALLY the stupid argument. You are merely and obviously grasping for straws to defend the indefensible.
 
apdst said:
I don't know what would be found.

What kind of dishonesty do you expect to find?
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Ah, let's turn that around. If Trump's taxes are on the up-and-up, why create a constitutional crisis to hide his taxes that Trump has repeatedly said he would disclose voluntarily? The only reason is that those taxes contain very damning evidence. They may even mean that Trump is no way near as wealthy as he claims to be. They may disclose that he is on the hook financially with Russians. Your guess is as good as any -- that's the reason Congress should see them.
 
Casper said:
Nope he should be charged with contempt or whatever legal charge they can levy.
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Just a question pls- Do you consider the House oversight, requiring Tax records, according to law, to be overreach by Congress?
 
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