Stalin : "history of old "Russia" was the continual beatings...Everyone gave her a beating for her

[beerftw]

Re: Stalin : "history of old "Russia" was the continual beatings...Everyone gave her a beating for h

the same uralic people who live under brutal Muscovite occupation for centuries? how it make Finns friends or "relatives" to the Juchi Mongols ? aseptically Finnish state, which is the most WESTERN COUNTRY ON EARTH ?

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Being the most stable country has zero to do wether it is eastern or western. Finland in an easter/northeastern european country, it's roots extend to russia, and was also a former russian territory. People of finland are both friendly and weary of russia, as it is hard not to talk to your giant neighbor, and finnish history is closer to russian than anywhere else. At the same time russia has been at war with them too, which keeps them from being in any complete trust of russia, last war was the winter wars, in which russia tried to buy land, then buy land with a land swap, then when finland refused all deals russia launched a false flag attack and used it to justify taking the section of land.


All in all finland is more tied to russia and eastern europe than anywhere else, you are trying to paint a camel as a horse, no matter how hard you try it will still be a camel.

 

[Tigerace117]

Re: Stalin : "history of old "Russia" was the continual beatings...Everyone gave her a beating for h

No , Finland is a Scandinavian country, i see you are a putlerist who just waist my time with your useless posts.

"Putlerist" is kind of a bizarre thing to call someone given that.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Legions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Estonian)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Latvian)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/19th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(2nd_Latvian)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanian_TDA_Battalions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatherland_Defense_Force

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ypatingasis_būrys

 

[Litwin]

Re: Stalin : "history of old "Russia" was the continual beatings...Everyone gave her a beating for h

"Putlerist" is kind of a bizarre thing to call someone given that.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Legions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Estonian)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Latvian)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/19th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(2nd_Latvian)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanian_TDA_Battalions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatherland_Defense_Force

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ypatingasis_būrys

was this situation some how different from the other occupied by Nazi - Germany countries , regions in Europe ?

 

[Litwin]

Re: Stalin : "history of old "Russia" was the continual beatings...Everyone gave her a beating for h

Being the most stable country has zero to do wether it is eastern or western. Finland in an easter/northeastern european country, it's roots extend to russia, and was also a former russian territory. People of finland are both friendly and weary of russia, as it is hard not to talk to your giant neighbor, and finnish history is closer to russian than anywhere else. At the same time russia has been at war with them too, which keeps them from being in any complete trust of russia, last war was the winter wars, in which russia tried to buy land, then buy land with a land swap, then when finland refused all deals russia launched a false flag attack and used it to justify taking the section of land.


All in all finland is more tied to russia and eastern europe than anywhere else, you are trying to paint a camel as a horse, no matter how hard you try it will still be a camel.

no , it has no roots with Muscovy, except the fact that Muscovites are Finnic people (moksha) . but you can not find 2 more different countries on earth , have you been there?

 

[Tigerace117]

Re: Stalin : "history of old "Russia" was the continual beatings...Everyone gave her a beating for h

was this situation some how different from the other occupied by Nazi - Germany countries , regions in Europe ?

Shrieking about "Putler" is nonsensical given the existence of so many Baltic SS units---guys who fought for, you know, actual Hitler.

 

[Litwin]

Re: Stalin : "history of old "Russia" was the continual beatings...Everyone gave her a beating for h

Shrieking about "Putler" is nonsensical given the existence of so many Baltic SS units---guys who fought for, you know, actual Hitler.

"so many Baltic SS units" Baltics can fight Hitler used it , he forced poor Baltics peasants into this army . do you know how many Muscovites fought on the German side ?

 

[Tigerace117]

Re: Stalin : "history of old "Russia" was the continual beatings...Everyone gave her a beating for h

"so many Baltic SS units" Baltics can fight Hitler used it , he forced poor Baltics peasants into this army . do you know how many Muscovites fought on the German side ?

Oh look, yet more hysterical nonsense from you. Pretending that volunteer units were all conscripts is a nice revision of history though.

By the way, calling Russians “Muscovites” is moronic.

 

[beerftw]

Re: Stalin : "history of old "Russia" was the continual beatings...Everyone gave her a beating for h

no , it has no roots with Muscovy, except the fact that Muscovites are Finnic people (moksha) . but you can not find 2 more different countries on earth , have you been there?

You might need a history lesson and maybe a map, history logic and fact seem to be against you here, Uralic languages opriginate in russia and that really hard to spell country south of russia, kazakhstan, many cultures and languages derived from those regions, including even turkish languages as well as much of eastern europe.

 

[beerftw]

Re: Stalin : "history of old "Russia" was the continual beatings...Everyone gave her a beating for h

"so many Baltic SS units" Baltics can fight Hitler used it , he forced poor Baltics peasants into this army . do you know how many Muscovites fought on the German side ?

I rarely ever agree with tigerace, but you seem to be on the wrong side of history, there were likely some russians who fought with hitler, however russia ended up opposing hitler and being the largest force in europe fighting him, while an extremely large american force along with allies where fighting from the western front with americans being devided into a pacific front as well. Infact if you do not know, much of the baltic states in the southern baltic were part of prussia, the largest part of the german empire and also many times called the eastern german empire, prussia ended up siding with hitler.

Latvia lithuania as well as other smaller states were under german control before ww2, most of those states post ww2 either went to the soviet union or poland.

 

[Litwin]

Re: Stalin : "history of old "Russia" was the continual beatings...Everyone gave her a beating for h

I rarely ever agree with tigerace, but you seem to be on the wrong side of history, there were likely some russians who fought with hitler, however russia ended up opposing hitler and being the largest force in europe fighting him, while an extremely large american force along with allies where fighting from the western front with americans being devided into a pacific front as well. Infact if you do not know, much of the baltic states in the southern baltic were part of prussia, the largest part of the german empire and also many times called the eastern german empire, prussia ended up siding with hitler.

Latvia lithuania as well as other smaller states were under german control before ww2, most of those states post ww2 either went to the soviet union or poland.

no its you are on the wrong side of history, your friend koba killed much more people than Hitler and your another friend Putler combine both of them



"Forest Brothers - Fight for the Baltics, NATO Published on Jul 11, 2017"

 

[Litwin]

Re: Stalin : "history of old "Russia" was the continual beatings...Everyone gave her a beating for h

You might need a history lesson and maybe a map, history logic and fact seem to be against you here, Uralic languages opriginate in russia and that really hard to spell country south of russia, kazakhstan, many cultures and languages derived from those regions, including even turkish languages as well as much of eastern europe.

couple of examples ?

 

[beerftw]

Re: Stalin : "history of old "Russia" was the continual beatings...Everyone gave her a beating for h

couple of examples ?

Wow you are literally incapable of google or even redian the links you posted earlier in this thread, is it even worth my time at this point or are you so sold on your opinion that you refuse to even research anything before you say it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uralic_languages literally took me a few seconds, which proves you were going out of your way to avoid finding that information.

 

[Litwin]

Re: Stalin : "history of old "Russia" was the continual beatings...Everyone gave her a beating for h

Wow you are literally incapable of google or even redian the links you posted earlier in this thread, is it even worth my time at this point or are you so sold on your opinion that you refuse to even research anything before you say it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uralic_languages literally took me a few seconds, which proves you were going out of your way to avoid finding that information.

no country in Europe speaks a Turkic language its for sure, "The Kazakh language is a member of the Turkic language family, as are Uzbek, Kyrgyz, Tatar, Uyghur, Turkish, Azeri, Turkmen, " and any other its connection to Europe is crazy

 

[beerftw]

Re: Stalin : "history of old "Russia" was the continual beatings...Everyone gave her a beating for h

no its you are on the wrong side of history, your friend koba killed much more people than Hitler and your another friend Putler combine both of them



"Forest Brothers - Fight for the Baltics, NATO Published on Jul 11, 2017"

Holy crap now you bring up koba from planet of the apes?

 

[beerftw]

Re: Stalin : "history of old "Russia" was the continual beatings...Everyone gave her a beating for h

no country in Europe speaks a Turkic language its for sure, "The Kazakh language is a member of the Turkic language family, as are Uzbek, Kyrgyz, Tatar, Uyghur, Turkish, Azeri, Turkmen, " and any other its connection to Europe is crazy

to be correct turkic language is actually in it's roots from mongolia, however it shares many words with uralic and vice versa. In kazakhstan there is more than one language fyi, however this does not work to divert you from the finnic language and culture derived from russia, nor does it take away from eastern europes influence from uralic culture and language, estonia latvia finland etc speak uralic languages, which originate in russia, as do their cultures.


Again you can try to paint a camel as a horse, but everyone still knows it is a camel, people of these regions seem to be quite accepting of what they are, it seems to be people like you who want to redefine them to fit your narrative.

 

[Litwin]

Re: Stalin : "history of old "Russia" was the continual beatings...Everyone gave her a beating for h

to be correct turkic language is actually in it's roots from mongolia, however it shares many words with uralic and vice versa. In kazakhstan there is more than one language fyi, however this does not work to divert you from the finnic language and culture derived from russia, nor does it take away from eastern europes influence from uralic culture and language, estonia latvia finland etc speak uralic languages, which originate in russia, as do their cultures.


Again you can try to paint a camel as a horse, but everyone still knows it is a camel, people of these regions seem to be quite accepting of what they are, it seems to be people like you who want to redefine them to fit your narrative.

ok, back to topic, do you agree with Koba? "history of old "Russia" was the continual beatings...Everyone gave her a beating for her...?

 

[beerftw]

Re: Stalin : "history of old "Russia" was the continual beatings...Everyone gave her a beating for h

ok, back to topic, do you agree with Koba? "history of old "Russia" was the continual beatings...Everyone gave her a beating for her...?

i am not sure that is even true, as russia has won and lost many wars, however the german empire in ww2 and the french empire under napolean both lost to them, both at their times the most powerful empires on earth.


But in terms of koba he pays tribute to the original planet of the apes and has a sad he was not in the original but rather the shoddy reboot1

 

[Litwin]

Re: Stalin : "history of old "Russia" was the continual beatings...Everyone gave her a beating for h

i am not sure that is even true, as russia has won and lost many wars, however the german empire in ww2 and the french empire under napolean both lost to them, both at their times the most powerful empires on earth.


But in terms of koba he pays tribute to the original planet of the apes and has a sad he was not in the original but rather the shoddy reboot1

no its Stalinist propaganda, WW2 won the country which produced more than 50% GDP. poor , backward ussr just was lucky to end up on right side of the war, 4 years. from 1945-91 it was in war with USA and free world, than you know what has happened . + ussr was not Muscovy , it was the world utopia , ussr state weapons didn´t have even ussr map on it

 

[beerftw]

Re: Stalin : "history of old "Russia" was the continual beatings...Everyone gave her a beating for h

no its Stalinist propaganda, WW2 won the country which produced more than 50% GDP. poor , backward ussr just was lucky to end up on right side of the war, 4 years. from 1945-91 it was in war with USA and free world, than you know what has happened . + ussr was not Muscovy , it was the world utopia , ussr state weapons didn´t have even ussr map on it

The soviet union as a whole lost more than 20 million people in that war, I doubt that was just from them sitting around and praying their side won. There fought heavily on the eastern front, and sent more to the front line than probably the rest of europe combined.

Oh btw lithuania was on the losing side of the war, they were occupied by soviets for 2 years due to a deal between hitler and stalin and stalin never invaded lithuania, he invaded poland right after hitler and traded land to lithuania for their ending of independence. Hitler later betrayed stalin and invaded the soviet union. Lithuania was retaken in 1941 by the germans, as it was part of prussia which was part of the german empire and later the weimar republic.

Lithuania willingly helped hitler, they succedded in erradicating 97% of the jews in that country, one of the highest rates if not the highest of axis powers, and also held 2 concentration camps. Just a reminder if you want to throw history stones especially with world war 2 make sure your country is not in a glass house.

 

[Litwin]

Re: Stalin : "history of old "Russia" was the continual beatings...Everyone gave her a beating for h

The soviet union as a whole lost more than 20 million people in that war, .

before that koba killed 7 million people just in 1 Holodomor . what it has had to do with victory in WW2 ? yes , we know that nothing costed so little in the world as a human life in USSR at that time. you know that life of a dog in USA costed much more than a life of a commie solder , right?