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This thread is a continuation from the heavy discussion in The Resurrection. Questions were posed in an effort to understand where traditional Christian beliefs differ with the Mormons', and since I anticipate a really thorough, lively and lengthy discussion about the posted questions (among other things), I think the LDS deserves a thread of its own.
Please understand that I firmly think that Mormons, like any other people of faith, sincerely want to do the right thing.
Unfortunately, I also believe they have a false understanding of who God is and as a result, Mormons live with such a heavy burden to be good enough and do enough, that they may be saved by Jesus.
The answers in bold were responses to the questions (by an LDS). As I understand that (just like any people of faith I suppose), there are also variations of beliefs among Mormons, so any Mormon who'd like to explain what they personally believe, please feel free to do so.
Please understand that I firmly think that Mormons, like any other people of faith, sincerely want to do the right thing.
Unfortunately, I also believe they have a false understanding of who God is and as a result, Mormons live with such a heavy burden to be good enough and do enough, that they may be saved by Jesus.
Originally Posted by tosca1 View Post
Let's try to understand where we are different, Laska. Correct me if I'm wrong, and please feel free to explain.
Is it true.....
1. Mormons believe we are all born perfect. We can't sin until we reach the age of accountability (age 8).
All born innocent. Baptism is at the age of 8 because those under that age, and the mentally handicapped who do not know right or wrong, are not held accountable by God. As an article of faith states: We believe man will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression. Infant baptism is seen as an affront to the mercies of God.
2. Mormons believe God and Jesus are two separate physical people who dwelt on Earth.
Two separate beings with Jesus having dwelt on the earth.
3. Mormons believe God was the Father of Jesus, and both of them died.
We believe God was father of Jesus. We believe Jesus died and was resurrected. It has not been revealed if God the Father went through the same process that Jesus went through sometime in the eternities. I personally believe He likely did but it is just speculation.
4. Mormons believe that if you die without confessing your sins to a Bishop, you get punished. The punishment is that you don't get to the THIRD HEAVEN where God lives.
No. God lives in the Celestial kingdom. The third heaven is the Telestial. God is to judge who makes it to the Celestial. If you are saying that one that lives their life contrary to the requirements to inherit the highest kingdom, and then on their death bed confesses, will they imherit the second or lowest kingdom? Likely imo. The Book of Mormon teaches that this life is the time to prepare to meet God.
5. Mormons believe there are three heavens. The third Heaven itself has three levels.
Pretty much accurate. I know the Celestial kingdom has three levels, not sure if the lower kingdoms do. The third heaven is called the Telestial heaven. https://www.lds.org/topics/kingdoms-of-glory?lang=eng
6. They also believe that there is no hell.
No, that's not correct
7. They believe in an "outer darkness".....but, according to an ex-Mormon, that's quite "muddy" since no one is sure what kind of people goes there.
There is a temporary state of hell that many will go to after death and before the resurrection. They will have the opportunity to repent and gain access to the lowest level of heaven before the final judgement. There will be a small percentage of the human population that will use their free agency to reject all redemption, become a law unto themselves, and inherit a permanent hell referred to as outer darkness. They reject all light even when their eyes are fully opened. The ex-Mormon is being truthful in that not much has been revealed about this more permanent hell.
8. You have to be baptized in order to be saved. Even if you have faith in Christ, if you're not baptized, you're not saved.
Baptism into the Lord's true church by one with the authority to do it is a necessary requirement to enter into the kingdom of God. It is the gate. There is a space in between death and the resurrection where those who lived on the earth and never had this opportunity will be taught the gospel and will accept or reject a proxy baptism for them that are done by Latter Day Saints in the temples.
9. Mormons believe that Lucifer is Jesus' brother back in "original" Earth where God and Jesus lived.
Jesus and Hitler were both humans. Imagine that. All of our spirit's are the offspring of God, all of us our spiritual brothers and sisters, the wicked and the righteous. We have free agency. Some like Jesus follow a path that leads to becoming like God. Others follow a path that leads to misery and destruction. Lucifer and a third of the hosts of Heaven rebelled against truth and righteousness and were cast down from Heaven. So yes Lucifer and Jesus were brothers, like we all are. Anti-Mormons love to quote this out of context in a sensational way to make the religion look bad to their audience.
10. Mormons believe that when Jesus died, the people fell away and the priesthood left the earth. The priesthood didn't return until it was given to Joseph Smith.
Not exactly but close. The New Testament apostles still had real authority while they were alive. After they are killed the authority was gone. Which means the Catholic church and all the Protestant churches that have come from it, their leaders have had no real authority to act in God's name. Peter, Lames, and John, the first presidency of the NT church, who last held the keys to the Melchizadech priesthood, restored them to Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is the restoration of the same church set up in the New Testament.
11. They believe the Bible is the Word of God - as long as it's translated correctly. They believe The Book Of Mormon is also the Word of God.
True
12. They believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent. They believe the 10 tribes that were lost will get back and gather in Missouri.
True.
13. They believe the Garden Of Eden was in Missouri and that's where Jesus will be raised.
You are correct about the garden of Eden being in Missouri, which is in the middle of the American continent. I don't know what you mean about Jesus being raised. It is where the New Jerusalem will be built in the Millennium and where Christ will reign, as He will also reign in Old Jerusalem. Two capitals during the Millennium.
The answers in bold were responses to the questions (by an LDS). As I understand that (just like any people of faith I suppose), there are also variations of beliefs among Mormons, so any Mormon who'd like to explain what they personally believe, please feel free to do so.
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