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Speeding up Football

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If I watch a football game, I usually watch online and click over to other screens after each play. Over time, I developed a nice pattern and noticed that for each play I spent about 8 seconds watching the game and at least 30 seconds on another screen. And, when there was a commercial break, that surfing time would grow to two or three minutes.

Then, something happened. I watched an Auburn game. Suddenly, I had almost no time to flip screens when the Tigers had the ball. Why? "No huddle" offense. That helped, but, of course, it did nothing for all the other stupid long breaks in the games; ungodly long breaks after touchdowns, turnovers, change of possession, field goals, kick-offs, injuries, etc.

How about we speed this puppy up? Here are some of my ideas:

1. 10 second play clock instead of 45 between plays.
2. No commercial break after a TD/Extra point; go straight to the Kick-off.
3. Fewer commercials (someone suggested doubling the price of each commercial and cutting the number of them in half. I say jack up the price 10-fold and cut the number of them by 90%)
4. Motorcycle ambulances to cart the injured off the field---like in "Rollerball."
5. No timeouts to "freeze" the kicker before field goals.
6. Fewer timeouts: one per half per team
7. Automatic play review in real time, do away with challenges--what a farce those are anyway.
8. Do away with nickel defenses, signaling, substitutions, etc--the 10-sec play clock should help with that.
9. No break after fumble recoveries or interceptions. The Defense has to play offense and vice versa.
10. Do away with halftime. Give them a water break, 10-minute breather tops.
 
If the pre-season is any indicator, the regular season is going to be dominated by the new "contact" penalties.

I don't think anyone actually understands the new NFL rules, the league, officials, coaches, players, game commentators, fans.

Football isn't football anymore. I've seen penalties called on "textbook" sacks and tackles. Nothing cheap or iffy. This is a disaster waiting to happen.

Sorry ..... didn't mean to derail the thread.
 
If the pre-season is any indicator, the regular season is going to be dominated by the new "contact" penalties.

I don't think anyone actually understands the new NFL rules, the league, officials, coaches, players, game commentators, fans.

Football isn't football anymore. I've seen penalties called on "textbook" sacks and tackles. Nothing cheap or iffy. This is a disaster waiting to happen.

Sorry ..... didn't mean to derail the thread.

It's not a derail. Obviously, these calls will make the games even longer with even more time spent watching players standing around and listening to commentators blowing smoke.
 
College needs speeding up, I'm fine with the speed of an NFL game. College is just absurd because the clock stops on first downs, and noboyd can play defense so its a ridiculous amount of scoring
 
Shorter games (events) would means that those who pay for their broadcast rights would earn less advertising revenue - thus reducing revenue for those very expensive events.
 
Shorter games (events) would means that those who pay for their broadcast rights would earn less advertising revenue - thus reducing revenue for those very expensive events.

Shorter games equals more viewers who don't fade off to do other things, like I do. Fewer commercials, but charge more money for them.

Look at it this way. Have one commercial per break, you just might watch it. Put five commercials in during a break, you aren't watching any of them.
 
College needs speeding up, I'm fine with the speed of an NFL game. College is just absurd because the clock stops on first downs, and noboyd can play defense so its a ridiculous amount of scoring

I think the scoring is what keeps the fans. The lack of scoring is the main argument used against the other football. As far as speeding the game up; someone put a clock on the actual plays and came up with an average of 11 minutes of playing time. I began watching football in the 1970’s; it doesn’t hold much interest for me anymore. Greed is not attractive.......
 
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I think the scoring is what keeps the fans. The lack of scoring is the main argument used against the other football. As far as sweeping the game up; someone put a clock on the actual plays and came up with an average of 11 minutes of playing time. I began watching football in the 1970’s; it doesn’t hold much interest for me anymore. Greed is not attractive.......
American football is ADHD: you don't pay attention and wait for something good to happen so you can watch the replays.

Real Football: You watch with interest for 90 minutes in the hopes that something good happens.
 
Shorter games equals more viewers who don't fade off to do other things, like I do. Fewer commercials, but charge more money for them.

Look at it this way. Have one commercial per break, you just might watch it. Put five commercials in during a break, you aren't watching any of them.

Simple solution: DVR the game, wait an hour and then FF through what you don't care to watch. With no changes at all (to the game) you just saved an hour and can pause whenever you want to.
 
If I watch a football game, I usually watch online and click over to other screens after each play. Over time, I developed a nice pattern and noticed that for each play I spent about 8 seconds watching the game and at least 30 seconds on another screen. And, when there was a commercial break, that surfing time would grow to two or three minutes.

Then, something happened. I watched an Auburn game. Suddenly, I had almost no time to flip screens when the Tigers had the ball. Why? "No huddle" offense. That helped, but, of course, it did nothing for all the other stupid long breaks in the games; ungodly long breaks after touchdowns, turnovers, change of possession, field goals, kick-offs, injuries, etc.

How about we speed this puppy up? Here are some of my ideas:

1. 10 second play clock instead of 45 between plays.
2. No commercial break after a TD/Extra point; go straight to the Kick-off.
3. Fewer commercials (someone suggested doubling the price of each commercial and cutting the number of them in half. I say jack up the price 10-fold and cut the number of them by 90%)
4. Motorcycle ambulances to cart the injured off the field---like in "Rollerball."
5. No timeouts to "freeze" the kicker before field goals.
6. Fewer timeouts: one per half per team
7. Automatic play review in real time, do away with challenges--what a farce those are anyway.
8. Do away with nickel defenses, signaling, substitutions, etc--the 10-sec play clock should help with that.
9. No break after fumble recoveries or interceptions. The Defense has to play offense and vice versa.
10. Do away with halftime. Give them a water break, 10-minute breather tops.

You should just watch horse racing.

You don't want a game...you want a race.

...Have you ever played football. Like real organized football? Players would be puking their guts out by the 4th quarter.
 
You should just watch horse racing.

You don't want a game...you want a race.

...Have you ever played football. Like real organized football? Players would be puking their guts out by the 4th quarter.
You mean they might actually have to get into shape?

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You should just watch horse racing.

You don't want a game...you want a race.

...Have you ever played football. Like real organized football? Players would be puking their guts out by the 4th quarter.

Exactly. Having a little time to catch your breath after a play is a medical necessity.
 
What upset me the most last year is when the NFL thought it was a good idea to go to a commercial, but still show the football game as a small square in the bottom of the screen. But you have to accommodate the money, no matter how ridiculous the idea.
 
How about we speed this puppy up? Here are some of my ideas:

I don't like any of those ideas. Football is fine. It's an event. It doesn't need to be sped up in my opinion. I don't want to pay $150 for a ticket to a game, and have the thing over and done in an hour before I even have a chance to drink a beer.
 
Exactly. Having a little time to catch your breath after a play is a medical necessity.

I guess that is fair. Soccer players rest whenever the ball is elsewhere, which is most of the game. Hockey players change lines constantly. Basketball is a little faster paced with fewer breaks, but even there they take many breathers as they adjust the pace or stop to shoot free throws.

Football is an all out exerted effort on each play.
 
I don't like any of those ideas. Football is fine. It's an event. It doesn't need to be sped up in my opinion. I don't want to pay $150 for a ticket to a game, and have the thing over and done in an hour before I even have a chance to drink a beer.

Didn't expect a counter-point against the premise. Not bad.
 
I guess that is fair. Soccer players rest whenever the ball is elsewhere, which is most of the game. Hockey players change lines constantly. Basketball is a little faster paced with fewer breaks, but even there they take many breathers as they adjust the pace or stop to shoot free throws.

Football is an all out exerted effort on each play.
Football players rarely rest in the modern game. With the exception of the goalie and maybe the 2 central defenders.. when a team attacks the everyone is in motion to get into a better position. Sure it is not balls to the wall but it is a constant jog for most. Some stars like Messi and Ronaldo walk around without a care in the world and then suddenly explode in pace.. when a team defends the it is constantly moving around.

American football is a bit meh. Sure when there is play going on there is a burst of speed/action but remember over half the team are on the bench resting and the pause between plays can be considerable.

On average a 3 hour Gridiron game is active for 11 minutes... on average a 90 minute football game is active 50 to 70 minutes.

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I don't like any of those ideas. Football is fine. It's an event. It doesn't need to be sped up in my opinion. I don't want to pay $150 for a ticket to a game, and have the thing over and done in an hour before I even have a chance to drink a beer.



An hour to drink a $12 beer? Gotta be warm.........:mrgreen:
 
If I watch a football game, I usually watch online and click over to other screens after each play. Over time, I developed a nice pattern and noticed that for each play I spent about 8 seconds watching the game and at least 30 seconds on another screen. And, when there was a commercial break, that surfing time would grow to two or three minutes.

Then, something happened. I watched an Auburn game. Suddenly, I had almost no time to flip screens when the Tigers had the ball. Why? "No huddle" offense. That helped, but, of course, it did nothing for all the other stupid long breaks in the games; ungodly long breaks after touchdowns, turnovers, change of possession, field goals, kick-offs, injuries, etc.

How about we speed this puppy up? Here are some of my ideas:

1. 10 second play clock instead of 45 between plays.
2. No commercial break after a TD/Extra point; go straight to the Kick-off.
3. Fewer commercials (someone suggested doubling the price of each commercial and cutting the number of them in half. I say jack up the price 10-fold and cut the number of them by 90%)
4. Motorcycle ambulances to cart the injured off the field---like in "Rollerball."
5. No timeouts to "freeze" the kicker before field goals.
6. Fewer timeouts: one per half per team
7. Automatic play review in real time, do away with challenges--what a farce those are anyway.
8. Do away with nickel defenses, signaling, substitutions, etc--the 10-sec play clock should help with that.
9. No break after fumble recoveries or interceptions. The Defense has to play offense and vice versa.
10. Do away with halftime. Give them a water break, 10-minute breather tops.

Oops, I thought you were talking about proper football. No need to speed things up in the Beautiful Game, it's already whizz-bang marvellous! :mrgreen:
 
apples and oranges

Not really, its a full contact sport in which you are constantly running and getting hit for 40mins each way...The idea that American football players couldn't play in a slightly sped up game is a bit shortsighted.
 
Not really, its a full contact sport in which you are constantly running and getting hit for 40mins each way...The idea that American football players couldn't play in a slightly sped up game is a bit shortsighted.

I played American football all through grade school and into college and rugby in college into men’s leagues so I would say I’ve got a good frame of reference on the differences between the two sports. The collisions in football cannot be compared to rugby, if rugby players got hit the way football players did there wouldn’t be the ability for continuous play or even multiple games in the same day as the way rugby tournaments are done
 
Simple solution: DVR the game, wait an hour and then FF through what you don't care to watch. With no changes at all (to the game) you just saved an hour and can pause whenever you want to.

That's me...


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