Sondland told Trump that Ukrainian President 'loves your ass' and would do 'anything you ask him to'

[SkyFox76]

Hearing both sides happens whenever the in-laws call the missus.......the gentleman from Louisiana probably is using string and Beef-a-roni cans for a land line. ...:mrgreen:

I was thinking old school flip phone, but you could be more on target. :thumbs:

 

[Bullseye]

I thought all this second-hand, third-hand, fourth hand.....wait...we already had 1st hand knowledge, Trump's blocking many of the other 1st hand knowledge witnesses and records...
...
but now we have two more witnesses that actually overheard Trump talking about this stuff explicitly?

Oh Republicans, jettison this threat to our nation please. You get Pence for the remainder of the year anyway.

What the hell are you babbling about, now? Two witnesses that heard Trump say the word "investigations"? Get the rope, I'll go find a strong tree!!

You guys are amazing - not in a good way.

 

[Mach]

What the hell are you babbling about, now? Two witnesses that heard Trump say the word "investigations"? Get the rope, I'll go find a strong tree!!
You guys are amazing - not in a good way.

Trump's being Constitutionally impeached...why are you talking about ropes?

So much wrong with it, shameful you don't know.
- unsecured cell phone call in Kiev by government officials
- to POTUS, even worse
- Loud enough that people at the table could overhear POTUS
- Sondland followed up with an explanation about what Trump

- yet more first-hand accounting, in this case, what appears to be two witnesses coming forward with even more first-hand accounts of Trump's involvement.

As for a bombshell, it's really not...we already know it was all at Trumps' direction, and is impeachable and egregious. It was just funny to see Republicans crying, and having that be countered by *new* witnesses, within a matter of days.

Just let us know when Rudy, Trump, Pompeo, and Mick, will be testifying so we can clear this big "misunderstanding" up. I'll hold my breath.

 

[jnug]

Trump's being Constitutionally impeached...why are you talking about ropes?

So much wrong with it, shameful you don't know.
- unsecured cell phone call in Kiev by government officials
- to POTUS, even worse
- Loud enough that people at the table could overhear POTUS
- Sondland followed up with an explanation about what Trump

- yet more first-hand accounting, in this case, what appears to be two witnesses coming forward with even more first-hand accounts of Trump's involvement.

As for a bombshell, it's really not...we already know it was all at Trumps' direction, and is impeachable and egregious. It was just funny to see Republicans crying, and having that be countered by *new* witnesses, within a matter of days.

Just let us know when Rudy, Trump, Pompeo, and Mick, will be testifying so we can clear this big "misunderstanding" up. I'll hold my breath.

Very well crafted post. I really don't have anything else to say. The point is that there are so few well crafted posts at this site that it is worth mentioning when one appears.

 

[Bullseye]

Trump's being Constitutionally impeached...why are you talking about ropes?

Actually, no, he's not. The house hasn't even issues articles of impeachment yet.

So much wrong with it, shameful you don't know.
- unsecured cell phone call in Kiev by government officials
- to POTUS, even worse[

- Loud enough that people at the table could overhear POTUS
- Sondland followed up with an explanation about what Trump

And . . .?

- yet more first-hand accounting, in this case, what appears to be two witnesses coming forward with even more first-hand accounts of Trump's involvement.

Trump's involvement? He asked Sondland about the investigations? President's are allow to seek investigations over suspected corruption. There's even a treaty between the US and Ukraine on that specific topic.

As for a bombshell, it's really not...we already know it was all at Trumps' direction, and is impeachable and egregious. It was just funny to see Republicans crying, and having that be countered by *new* witnesses, within a matter of days.

Just let us know when Rudy, Trump, Pompeo, and Mick, will be testifying so we can clear this big "misunderstanding" up. I'll hold my breath.

And mayo to go with your red herrings?

 

[jnug]

Actually, no, he's not. The house hasn't even issues articles of impeachment yet.
And . . .?
Trump's involvement? He asked Sondland about the investigations? President's are allow to seek investigations over suspected corruption. There's even a treaty between the US and Ukraine on that specific topic.
And mayo to go with your red herrings?

Well the House is certainly now engaged in an Impeachment process.

But if you really want to get down to brass tacks, TRUMP IS BEING IMPEACHED.

As Mick the Quick Mulvaney would say, "GET USED TO IT". Trump may not be Removed. The House can't remove.

 

[Bullseye]

Well the House is certainly now engaged in an Impeachment process.

****show maybe, "process" - not even close.

But if you really want to get down to brass tacks, TRUMP IS BEING IMPEACHED.

Sorry, again not even close.

As Mick the Quick Mulvaney would say, "GET USED TO IT". Trump may not be Removed. The House can't remove.

Sure, whatever floats your boat. :roll:

 

[jnug]

****show maybe, "process" - not even close.
Sorry, again not even close.
Sure, whatever floats your boat. :roll:

Lets come back to post #32 when the House vote comes in. Too much momentum against a no vote to Impeach.

For one thing Sondland is a boat anchor around Trump's neck now. That one is all over but for the cryin'.

 

[less right]

What the hell are you babbling about, now? Two witnesses that heard Trump say the word "investigations"? Get the rope, I'll go find a strong tree!!

You guys are amazing - not in a good way.

If Trump said, "I killed him," you would argue that saying "killed" doesn't break the law.

You're pretty amazing yourself in a 'Trumpleganger' sort of way.

 

[Bullseye]

Lets come back to post #32 when the House vote comes in. Too much momentum against a no vote to Impeach.

Won't change anything. Fact still is on this date, Trump is not being impeached.

 

[jnug]

Won't change anything. Fact still is on this date, Trump is not being impeached.

Like I said, lets come back to post #32 when the House vote comes in. Though I doubt you will be around to review it.

 

[Bullseye]

Like I said, lets come back to post #32 when the House vote comes in. Though I doubt you will be around to review it.

Did I say he'd NEVER be impeached or did I say he wasn't yet impeached? Do I need to use smaller words and shorter sentences?

 

[Bullseye]

If Trump said, "I killed him," you would argue that saying "killed" doesn't break the law.

You're pretty amazing yourself in a 'Trumpleganger' sort of way.

Good news! You're in the running for stupidest post of the year!!

 

[jnug]

Did I say he'd NEVER be impeached or did I say he wasn't yet impeached? Do I need to use smaller words and shorter sentences?

Oh I know exactly what you posted. HE IS BEING IMPEACHED. GET USED TO IT. You are clearly not used to it yet. Prepare yourself. Get used to it.

 

[Bullseye]

Oh I know exactly what you posted. HE IS BEING IMPEACHED. GET USED TO IT. You are clearly not used to it yet. Prepare yourself. Get used to it.

Using ALL CAPS doesn't change the facts. A kangaroo court hearing does not comprise "impeachment".

 

[Jay59]

Time to move the goalpost again.

This much is true. The Ukraine card bombed as badly as Mueller.

Maybe trying to win the election would be a better idea. Maybe you have not completely poisoned the well.

 

[less right]

Good news! You're in the running for stupidest post of the year!!

Last year's winner picks this years?

I don't usually get excited about gossip, but this late in the year and I'm a contender. That's big, like Trump's hands.

 

[less right]

Word has it that a preservative in Big Macs tends to tighten the skin. He'd better get in line to lick it if he's going to have any chance of expressing his affection while Trump is still infesting the White House.

"Get in line"?

Have you ever seen piglets suckling? Now imagine them in suits.

 

[apdst]

I hate to break this to you, but I've literally sat and overheard an entire conversation of both sides of the call because the phones volume was turned up so loud. So no, it's very simple to hear what's spoken by the person on the other end without enabling speaker.

So you say. But saying it doesn't make it an admissable fact, legally speaking.

By your logic, these people could claim to have ESP and their testimonies would be legit...lol. We all know none of you would question it.

 

[SkyFox76]

So you say. But saying it doesn't make it an admissable fact, legally speaking.

By your logic, these people could claim to have ESP and their testimonies would be legit...lol. We all know none of you would question it.

Yeah you stick with that great logic. The problem for you is, not only have others in here confirmed they've also heard people on the other end of the phone, it's beyond simple for someone to prove it's entirely possible.

And no, unless they could factually prove a witness had ESP then you'd definitely have people questioning it.

This wasn't even a good try on your part.

 

[apdst]

Yeah you stick with that great logic. The problem for you is, not only have others in here confirmed they've also heard people on the other end of the phone, it's beyond simple for someone to prove it's entirely possible.

And no, unless they could factually prove a witness had ESP then you'd definitely have people questioning it.

This wasn't even a good try on your part.

No, you wouldn't say a ****ing word...lol

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

In reading the transcript it appears that Holmes is the one who first used the phrase "doesn't give a ****". He then goes on to say that Sondland agreed with him, possibly repeating that language. It does not say that Trump said he doesn't give a **** about Ukraine.

While I have no reason to disavow the veracity of Holmes' claims and believe that the conversation was certainly unwise, it does not convey anything about any interest in the 2020 election.

It undercuts Trump's defense that he was concerned about corruption in Ukraine. He doesn't give a **** about that. Moreover, Sondland says Trump only cares about the big stuff that benefit him personally. So, Trump was acting in his own self-interest when he held up the funds and extorted a foreign leader.

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

This much is true. The Ukraine card bombed as badly as Mueller.

Maybe trying to win the election would be a better idea. Maybe you have not completely poisoned the well.

The well has been poisoned for Trump. Half the population would not vote for him under any circumstances.

Corrupt politicians aren't our biggest problem. Citizens who are willing to overlook corruption are the problem. That's what you're doing.

Trump is surrounded by convicts. He's constantly lying. He's extorted a foreign leader to smear his political opponent. But people like you would still support him. And that's how democracy dies.

 

[Jay59]

The well has been poisoned for Trump. Half the population would not vote for him under any circumstances.
Corrupt politicians aren't our biggest problem. Citizens who are willing to overlook corruption are the problem. That's what you're doing.
Trump is surrounded by convicts. He's constantly lying. He's extorted a foreign leader to smear his political opponent. But people like you would still support him. And that's how democracy dies.

I have said before, I'll see you in 51 weeks.

Off the top of my head, I would say it's not half the population. I would say 30%, maybe 35% and you have to get them to vote. 40% absolutely will turn out to vote for him. You start in a big hole and you do not have a candidate.

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

I have said before, I'll see you in 51 weeks.

Off the top of my head, I would say it's not half the population. I would say 30%, maybe 35% and you have to get them to vote. 40% absolutely will turn out to vote for him. You start in a big hole and you do not have a candidate.

Trump only won because he was running against Hillary Clinton.

Trump has proven that he's corrupt but you still support him. You support corruption. You're every bit a part of the problem as any corrupt politician.