Sondland throws Trump and Guliani under the bus first!

[Master Debator]

….....a Democratic operative working with the Democratic National Committee did reach out to the Ukrainian government in an attempt to get damaging information about the Trump campaign.

That operative's name is Alexandra Chalupa, a Ukrainian-American former Clinton White House aide who was tasked with ethnic outreach on behalf of the Democratic Party. As Vogel reported, she knew about Paul Manafort's extensive connections to the pro-Russian regime of Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych, and decided to dig deeper into possible connections between Moscow and the Trump campaign. As part of that effort, she discussed Manafort with the high-ranking officials at the Ukrainian embassy in Washington, D.C.
Did Ukraine try to interfere in the 2016 election on Clinton's behalf? - CBS News

Lets see what you have from the intelligence agencies denying this.

You're article is two years old. :shrug:

Here's an updated one.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/08/gop-theory-that-ukraine-set-up-trump/?outputType=amp

*Key points* She was a private contractor she didn't work for Clinton's campaign and neither Clinton nor the DNC used any of her Manafort information. * After an internal investigation Ukraine determined that no one in their government improperly gave her documents related to Manafort which she continued to gather on her own after she finished her contract work for the DNC which was unrelated to her Manafort investigation. * And the purpose of that investigation was to expose corruption by Manafort to Congress, corruption that Manafort would later be convicted for.

So yea. Still as credible as pizzagate. :shrug:

 

[ocean515]

Good thing Trump has so many gullible and indoctrinated fools to support him in spite of the corruption and lies every smart person sees.

What smart people are you referring to?

 

[bubbabgone]

"You are a great teacher...":lamo "Can we have our military stuff now we've massaged your ego, please?"

It was been reported a while ago but it appears you still aren't aware ... Zelensky didn't know the aid was being held up.
Sorry, but the topic on the call at that time was Ukraine corruption.

 

[bubbabgone]

Because the only "corruption" trump mentioned, and the parts he wanted specifically spelled out by zelenaki, was Crowdstrike and the DNC server and the bidens. None of the internal stuff that everybody else involved was concerned about.

Addressing that same thing is getting tiresome.
The corruption mentioned by Trump had American involvement.
It was Zelensky who noted that he was aware that Ukraine was a cesspool of corruption and the duplicity of US ambassador.

 

[bubbabgone]

Sounds like desperate ass kissing to me.

Which I'm sure someone told him was the way to trumps heart.

Could be.
But could also be the new President is try to navigate the sea of corruption that is his Country.
Could be both, actually.

 

[bubbabgone]

Sounded to me like zelenski was answering previously provided queries. Like you would do if you needed something from someone and you had heard they had concerns. (And loves being fluffed, hence the "swamp" reference.)

Sounded to me like he realized what a mess he found himself in and that he was elected to clean it up.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

There's no point. You don't recognize it. It's like we're living in an episode of Black Mirror, and everyone left on the filters for you conservatives so you don't even see what triggers you anymore.

Not really, you're just experiencing Fletch Gaslighting.

 

[What if...?]

Sounded to me like he realized what a mess he found himself in and that he was elected to clean it up.

Toe may toe, toe mah toe.

 

[bongsaway]

I'm looking forward to hearing from tillerson and bolton.

 

[marke]

Gordon Sondland Claims He Was 'Disappointed' With Trump's Ukraine Pressure | HuffPost
I guess Sondland does not want to go to jail as other Trump supporters have done. He seems like he is going to throw others under the bus before they can do that to him. I wonder how the rest of his testimony is going to go after his opening statement makes it certain he is going to protect himself.

Do we have the full transcript of his testimony or just Adam Schitff's lying paraphrase version? Who is more honorable and trusted by more Americans, Trump or Schitff and his hand-picked witnesses?

 

[tres borrachos]

What smart people are you referring to?

The ones who didn't vote for Trump.

 

[ocean515]

The ones who didn't vote for Trump.

Clearly, that isn't true.