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Redress

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-launches-pre-emptive-strike-cbo-anticipating-report-health-care-bill-195845596.html

In a video published to its social media accounts, the White House claims that the CBO uses faulty numbers. It disputed projections that 22 million more Americans would be without health insurance by 2026, compared with keeping Obamacare. The video came in conjunction with a press release citing critiques of the CBO from the Council of Economic Advisers, a group of political appointees.
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OK, no big deal. But the White House had to pull the video. Why?

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Yup, in a video about how the CBO is inaccurate, the White House could not even spell inaccurate right, nor catch it until it went live...
 
I'm so blown-away by the administration, in so many ways I can't count, but all of them negative! :doh
 
Clowns. But then again, given Trump supporters, maybe you need to spell things a few different ways since they seem to be on the edge of illiteracy anyway.


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You know what's even funnier? I just tried to click the play button like 20 times. It's amazing that nobody caught the misspelling. It must have been rushed.
 
Redress said:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-launches-pre-emptive-strike-cbo-anticipating-report-health-care-bill-195845596.html



OK, no big deal. But the White House had to pull the video. Why?

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Yup, in a video about how the CBO is inaccurate, the White House could not even spell inaccurate right, nor catch it until it went live...
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While you just have to shake your head at the stupid mistakes this WH makes we should not laugh off the message which has some truth to it.

For something so massive as who will be insured ten years from now I assert no one can know. Will all the states which have expanded Medicaid in really drop those folks? Will many of the people who have enrolled in the private pools really drop off because there is no tax for not having insurance? Will large corporations on-shore more jobs, thus adding many to their insurance plans due to a corporate tax rate change, that will happen in the next ten years regardless of which party holds the WH.

CBO probably should have put out something like a best case, worst case, most probable case. Show us the assumptions and let folks decide which they feel they would be comfortable using.
 
I'm actually somewhat impressed that it has more than 140 characters.
 
Ignoring the innocent but lame misspelling deal, the CBO has never been an end all to legislation.

In hindsight, the accuracy of the CBO reports done on Obamacare, were abysmal. Not even close.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2017/01/02/learning-from-cbos-history-of-incorrect-obamacare-projections/#41dfc60e46a7

We now know that many of CBO’s projections of important aspects of the ACA have significantly differed from actual outcomes.​

The CBO provides an important function, but it's the infusion of extreme politics that makes it's function more important than it should be.

Given their track record, it's a bit ridiculous for so many to cling to their findings as if they were gospel. The President is correct to point this out.
 
ocean515 said:
Ignoring the innocent but lame misspelling deal, the CBO has never been an end all to legislation.

In hindsight, the accuracy of the CBO reports done on Obamacare, were abysmal. Not even close.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2017/01/02/learning-from-cbos-history-of-incorrect-obamacare-projections/#41dfc60e46a7

We now know that many of CBO’s projections of important aspects of the ACA have significantly differed from actual outcomes.​

The CBO provides an important function, but it's the infusion of extreme politics that makes it's function more important than it should be.

Given their track record, it's a bit ridiculous for so many to cling to their findings as if they were gospel. The President is correct to point this out.
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I agree,

The CBO numbers are just an educated guess using analysis from data that is already available. It relies too much on unknown variables that are unknowable until events happen. Although the reports revolve around a lot of educated guess work, they are all we have to go by when evaluating the impact of these bills. in hindsight the CBO will be abysmal when the dust settles if the new healthcare bill becomes law. However the CBO reports give you insight into what the outcomes could be if all things stay the same. The ACA now is not the same ACA the CBO first evaluated, the country is not the same, businesses have changed practices. CBO can only go by how things are 'as is' or how they 'may be'. Without a crystal ball, they have no way of making truly accurate predictions.
 
ocean515 said:
Ignoring the innocent but lame misspelling deal, the CBO has never been an end all to legislation.

In hindsight, the accuracy of the CBO reports done on Obamacare, were abysmal. Not even close.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2017/01/02/learning-from-cbos-history-of-incorrect-obamacare-projections/#41dfc60e46a7

We now know that many of CBO’s projections of important aspects of the ACA have significantly differed from actual outcomes.​

The CBO provides an important function, but it's the infusion of extreme politics that makes it's function more important than it should be.

Given their track record, it's a bit ridiculous for so many to cling to their findings as if they were gospel. The President is correct to point this out.
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Dude, this is what TDS sufferers hear when you give them facts. Or, truth be told, leftist loons in general. ;) ;)

 
ocean515 said:
Ignoring the innocent but lame misspelling deal, the CBO has never been an end all to legislation.

In hindsight, the accuracy of the CBO reports done on Obamacare, were abysmal. Not even close.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2017/01/02/learning-from-cbos-history-of-incorrect-obamacare-projections/#41dfc60e46a7

We now know that many of CBO’s projections of important aspects of the ACA have significantly differed from actual outcomes.​

The CBO provides an important function, but it's the infusion of extreme politics that makes it's function more important than it should be.

Given their track record, it's a bit ridiculous for so many to cling to their findings as if they were gospel. The President is correct to point this out.
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The CBO should not be taken as gospel however the CBO is a group of 230 high IQ individuals that are among the brightest in the fields the CBO projects and The CBO has proven by the record since its inception to be accurate within a reasonable range of variation in over 80% of the projections.. Nobody can predict the future but the CBO gives much better projections than the guess work that many individuals put out there.


Have you seen or read the AHCA? Regardless of the CBO it is not a good plan period. This bill would ultimately cost much more, result in an increase in premiums for people who are privately insured, and provide coverage that is arguably worse than having no coverage at all. If this is the best the Republicans can do why not just modify and correct the deficiencies of the ACA?

What is the CBO, and can you trust its numbers on the Republican healthcare plan?
 
ModerateRN said:
I agree,

The CBO numbers are just an educated guess using analysis from data that is already available. It relies too much on unknown variables that are unknowable until events happen. Although the reports revolve around a lot of educated guess work, they are all we have to go by when evaluating the impact of these bills. in hindsight the CBO will be abysmal when the dust settles if the new healthcare bill becomes law. However the CBO reports give you insight into what the outcomes could be if all things stay the same. The ACA now is not the same ACA the CBO first evaluated, the country is not the same, businesses have changed practices. CBO can only go by how things are 'as is' or how they 'may be'. Without a crystal ball, they have no way of making truly accurate predictions.
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Yes, outcomes IF all things stay the same. But they don't. All the CBO can do is plug in numbers based on assumptions that may be relevant, or not.

It's a bit unfair to them and their mission, to use their analysis as the absolute last word.

That is what the CBO has become, and it's wrong to view their work that way.
 
LunaRose said:
The CBO should not be taken as gospel however the CBO is a group of 230 high IQ individuals that are among the brightest in the fields the CBO projects and The CBO has proven by the record since its inception to be accurate within a reasonable range of variation in over 80% of the projections.. Nobody can predict the future but the CBO gives much better projections than the guess work that many individuals put out there.


Have you seen or read the AHCA? Regardless of the CBO it is not a good plan period. This bill would ultimately cost much more, result in an increase in premiums for people who are privately insured, and provide coverage that is arguably worse than having no coverage at all. If this is the best the Republicans can do why not just modify and correct the deficiencies of the ACA?

What is the CBO, and can you trust its numbers on the Republican healthcare plan?
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What, you work for the CBO? How do you know they are High IQ individuals?

The CBO provides a function to Congress. It takes raw information contained in legislation and attempts to provide an economic impact analysis. It does so making assumptions that may or may not prove accurate or even relative.

It's work is nothing more than a tool to help legislators get a picture of what the proposals they are considering could look like. It's like buying a new car, after adding in all the options, at some point you ask, how much would the car cost if all that was included. It doesn't mean that's the car you order.

If you read through the CBO reports that were done when Obamacare was being drawn up, the reality seen today, and what they projected then, are not even close.

It's not appropriate to the CBO, it's staff, and their mission, to view their work as the end all reason to support, or oppose, legislation under consideration.
 
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