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Solution For People Who Don't Like Guns

Rich2018 said:
Maybe he is.

I don't know how high the percentage of veterans are treated for PTSD or how many servicemen leave the military because of PTSD.

I imagine all servicemen on active duty are subject to some lever of stress.

Not sure what gun control has to do with it.

Does the military need more psychiatrists ?
I'd say absolutely yes.
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Should more psychiatrists be made available for those with an irrational fear of guns too?
 
BahamaBob said:
This makes no sense. Drugs kill far more people than guns. Why would you want drugs legalized?
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I said I'm on the fence about it and I used to take the same "drugs are really bad" attitude as you.

Then I started reading of the Portuguese experience

They didn't exactly legalize drugs but they did decriminalize them.

Users were no longer criminal for buying and using them.


Portugal did see a slight rise in drug use but figures are fairly new so that could be that de-stigmatizing drug use saw more people report addiction problems.


There are many benefits for actually legalizing all drugs though.

The expensive war on drugs is over
A significant portion of the US prison population can be released
Huge decrease is gang warfare and violent criminal activity
A huge source of taxation for the government

Downside:
We'd have a class of drug addict unfit for any use - but we already have this
I don't care what people inject into themselves (or swallow, sniff etc) but I do care about their dependents - but these unfortunate people already exist


BIG question: Would drug use increase and by how much ?
I think respectively; yes and we don't know.
 
BahamaBob said:
A fetus doesn't become a child? Are you OK with killing toddlers too?
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Respectively, yes it does, no I'm not


IMO, a child is born and becomes human when it takes its first breath.

I support abortion up to a point where the brain starts to form.
That's where I stand. So the morning after pill is perfectly OK.
 
RF667799 said:
You assumed two different positions within sequential posts:






Position 1, ban all guns but make exceptions by make and model as that is better than banning by type.

Position 2, ban all guns but make exceptions by type.

So which is your position?
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Reading comprehension failure, where exactly did I suggest making exception by "type" ?


I actually said that a ban on all guns was "better" than writing "convoluted" legal definitions of certain types of gun.

So better to ban ALL guns and make exceptions by MAKE & MODEL #

And NOT by type



Let me know when you've learned to read and understand English

You are so obsessed with nit-picking, your obsession has blinded you to basic English comprehension.
 
Rich2018 said:
Reading comprehension failure, where exactly did I suggest making exception by "type" ?


I actually said that a ban on all guns was "better" than writing "convoluted" legal definitions of certain types of gun.

So better to ban ALL guns and make exceptions by MAKE & MODEL #

And NOT by type



Let me know when you've learned to read and understand English

You are so obsessed with nit-picking, your obsession has blinded you to basic English comprehension.
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Exactly here:

"All muzzle loaders would be exempted yes, as would manually cocked rifles and shotguns with a capacity of no more than 3."
 
RF667799 said:
Exactly here:

"All muzzle loaders would be exempted yes, as would manually cocked rifles and shotguns with a capacity of no more than 3."
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By MAKE and MODEL #. and NOT by type.
I actually even stated the requirement for make/model number twice !!!!!!

What part of that were you not able to understand ?


You truly are blinded by your obsession to nit pick holes in what I say.
 
Rich2018 said:
By MAKE and MODEL #. and NOT by type.
I actually even stated the requirement for make/model number twice !!!!!!

What part of that were you not able to understand ?


You truly are blinded by your obsession to nit pick holes in what I say.
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"All muzzle loaders would be exempted yes, as would manually cocked rifles and shotguns with a capacity of no more than 3."
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Says the guy who repeatedly posts "Freedom is overrated".
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Says the guy that doesn't understand that freedom is overrated.

It's much less valuable than he thinks and citizens have to surrender quite a bit of it, most actually, to retain what freedom they have left.


Not that I expect you to understand that.
 
RF667799 said:
"All muzzle loaders would be exempted yes, as would manually cocked rifles and shotguns with a capacity of no more than 3."
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By MAKE and MODEL # and NOT by type.


So the law would list, by make and model number, all the muzzle loaders, shotguns and manually cocked rifles that are exempt
That is far better than writing a convoluted, legal definition(s)

What are you not getting ?


You're embarrassed because you just made a colossal fool of yourself.

What part of that were you not able to understand ?
 
Rich2018 said:
Says the guy that doesn't understand that freedom is overrated.

It's much less valuable than he thinks and citizens have to surrender quite a bit of it, most actually, to retain what freedom they have left.


Not that I expect you to understand that.
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He's probably one of the citizens you are claiming should surrender most of their freedom.
 
Rich2018 said:
By MAKE and MODEL # and NOT by type.


What are you not getting ?


You're embarrassed because you just made a colossal fool of yourself.

What part of that were you not able to understand ?
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The part where you also claim they should be exempted by type.
"All muzzle loaders would be exempted yes, as would manually cocked rifles and shotguns with a capacity of no more than 3."
 
Rich2018 said:
The point is that justifying gun ownership because it's not compulsory to own one, is not a valid argument
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Sure it is. Whether or not I own a gun has no effect on your life whatsoever.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Here is a solution for people who don't like guns on how to deal with their dislike for guns, don't own any, plain and simple, problem solved.
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It's not that simply for gun haters in the world. They have this delusional belief that guns are an axis of evil. What they fail to realize, or admit, is that guns are not the issue, it's the people with their finger on the trigger. A gun wont kill unless directed to kill.
 
RF667799 said:
The part where you also claim they should be exempted by type.
"All muzzle loaders would be exempted yes, as would manually cocked rifles and shotguns with a capacity of no more than 3."
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By make and model number.

So the exemption list, includes all muzzle loaders that are approved

It also lists all the manually cocked rifles that are exempt

It also would list all the shotguns that are exempt



That way if any gun is found to be a problem, it can be struck off the exemption list without the need for a change in law.


You really are determined to make a huge fool of yourself aren't you ?
 
DebateChallenge said:
Sure it is. Whether or not I own a gun has no effect on your life whatsoever.
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If that were true, the argument for gun control falls flat


Gun owners use their guns to kill and injure people all the time


If gun owners were killing and maiming tens of thousands of people a year, there would be no case for gun control.
 
Rich2018 said:
Says the guy that doesn't understand that freedom is overrated.

It's much less valuable than he thinks and citizens have to surrender quite a bit of it, most actually, to retain what freedom they have left.


Not that I expect you to understand that.
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LOL. I have no doubt you actually believe your own BS. You'd be such a good little citizen of Oceania and your love of Big Brother would be unsurpassed.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
LOL. I have no doubt you actually believe your own BS. You'd be such a good little citizen of Oceania and your love of Big Brother would be unsurpassed.
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You are the kind of people I'm talking about, wrapped up in a stars and stripes flag, quoting the pledge of alliegence

Talking of freedom BS


You really don't know that most of your so called "freedom" is lost already.
 
Rich2018 said:
By make and model number.

So the exemption list, includes all muzzle loaders that are approved

It also lists all the manually cocked rifles that are exempt

It also would list all the shotguns that are exempt



That way if any gun is found to be a problem, it can be struck off the exemption list without the need for a change in law.


You really are determined to make a huge fool of yourself aren't you ?
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"All muzzle loaders would be exempted yes, as would manually cocked rifles and shotguns with a capacity of no more than 3."
 
Rich2018 said:
No, just that they already have.
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And how cheeky can they be, taking offense at suggestions they surrender more.

No slippery slope to see here.
 
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